No more Hornady Critical Defense Ammunition for me.

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Never had this to happen before, maybe someone can tell me what this was. Driving by the gravel pit, so I took my Sig P238 out to get rid of some ammo that it doesn't like. It will fire everything but Hornady Critical Defense Ammo. Loaded a mag and fired first 4 and the 5th was FTE. I cleared the round, fired the next and it sounded like a cap pistol. It fired the rd but it was what I would call a squib....or something. Also, FTE....cleared it and finished the mag. Loaded a mag of cor bon and rapid fire when through the mag like clock work.

What was that little pop from that Hornady rd, bat man:confused:

You ever have a factory rd do that?
 
Never had that problem . You had a under charged round I guess With millions of rounds made some bound to be a dud.
That why I buy a box of SD ammo I shoot all but the rounds I will carry. I pick them at random. and shoot the rest. If their a bad round I hope I find it then , and didn't pick it for my carry load. But to open a box and just load and carry nope . Might shot a 100 boxs of good ammo and this box has 1 bad round . I want as much as possible odds on my side.
 
I carry hydra shoks in my cz. I agree with testing your ammo except what youre carrying. It just sucks because that only left 4 rounds after I loaded up my 75 mag. I figured if its good enough for LE, I can probably trust my life with it. Ive never really had a great feeling about hornady, Im not really sure why..
 
I kind of remember reading that there were some early issues with the then new CD ammo. Heard Hornady got that ironed out and you could tell the difference by the primers color. Hope someone chimes in with some accurate facts. LM
 
I'm cautious...I pick my carry rounds at random and weigh them (only takes a moment). If they aren't within spec, I dispose of them on the range. I've never had an empty case show up, but feel the need to make sure, at least with the loads I deem critical.

I figure it's only a bit of effort and makes me feel better, so why not?
 
You ever have a factory rd do that?
Yes, over the years I've had factory ammo and reloads that either had no powder and left the bullet in the barrel or were very weak.
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fired the next and it sounded like a cap pistol. It fired the rd but it was what I would call a squib....or something. Also, FTE....cleared it and finished the mag.
By "cleared it", did you check that the barrel was clear? Many guns have been wrecked because the shooter did not realize that the bullet had never left the barrel.
 
Yep, if it was a total squib, and you didn't check the barrel, your gun would probably be in pieces right now. If you hear a pop instead of a bang, that is ALWAYS a good reason to stop and inspect the bore, unless someone is actually trying to kill you at the time.

If I didn't trust premium defensive loads, I would just handload my carry rounds.

Weighing loaded cartridges is typically not considered a reliable way to tell if there is powder inside, since the powder accounts for such a small percentage of the overall weight of the cartridge... usually variances in bullet or case weight will be more than the powder weight, especially in pistol rounds.

I gage, and inspect the primer seating on every carry round, since this is so easy to do and takes about 3 seconds each. Beyond that, I trust that top shelf ammo is good to go.
 
I've had hundreds of squib rimfire rounds.
I shoot a LOT of 22, mostly Wal Mart bulk pack.

Remington is terrible for leaving the primer out of the rim.
I pull the bullets out of all duds and check for primer. I have two bottles full of Remington cases that had no primer. Also a few Winchester and Federal.

But, I have never found a 22 case with no powder or even what looks like a light charge.


A while back a friend was shooting a .223 bolt action using Remington. The accuracy was terrible and you could hear the powder charge was different in the same boxes of ammo.
 
Yep, if it was a total squib, and you didn't check the barrel, your gun would probably be in pieces right now. If you hear a pop instead of a bang, that is ALWAYS a good reason to stop and inspect the bore, unless someone is actually trying to kill you at the time.

If I didn't trust premium defensive loads, I would just handload my carry rounds.

Weighing loaded cartridges is typically not considered a reliable way to tell if there is powder inside, since the powder accounts for such a small percentage of the overall weight of the cartridge... usually variances in bullet or case weight will be more than the powder weight, especially in pistol rounds.

I gage, and inspect the primer seating on every carry round, since this is so easy to do and takes about 3 seconds each. Beyond that, I trust that top shelf ammo is good to go.
The potential for catastrophic disassembly is most certainly there, but with a quality firearm there is also the possibility that he just blew the offending obstruction out (if the bullet did indeed lodge in the barrel) leaving a bulge in the barrel and a very noticeable ring in his bore. I sure hope the OP thought to "clear" his barrel before proceeding.

The OP might wanna make sure that he didn't do this to his pistol.
 
That's why I load my own. On a similar vein, while loading 9mm with 115 gr. Hornady XTPs a few months ago I was setting bullets in my trays and noticed one that was proud of the others. Tossed it on the scale and it measured 147 gr. 1 out of 100 that would have left me well over pressure and none too happy. I judge QC to be nothing but suspect when dealing with anything that can cost me appendages.

I've had my share of 70% days at work (though it doesn't endanger lives) and I suspect any worker will have the same from time to time.

Stay vigilant and be safe.
 
I have a Savage 410/.22. I've killed a ton (literally) of tin cans with it. When one of those duds showed up, I'd just turn the round slightly to get a fresh spot on the rim for the firing pin. I've hit the same round four or five times trying to get a shot off. It sort of turned into a game...to see how many tries before I'd get a shot off! :D

I'm much older now...I like them to go bang on the first try now! :D

My Colt Diamondback would make a mess out of the rims after five hits! Never had one perforate the case.

Mark
 
i shot some of this ammo in my lcp and in my sig, some is ok but i had one that fell in front of me and was very quiet.
 
I have shot around 600 rounds of 9mm Hornady CD ammo and had no problems at all. I stated buy'n to try when it first came out . Last box's about 4 weeks ago. have my carry mags loaded now with it. Ammo like firearms ,sometimes they all produce some problems. Most people don't check for recalls.
 
Goes to show no matter how reliable you think your weapon is there is always the factor of ammo.

Rest assured that purpose built defensive rounds undergo better manufacturing processes and QC......at least if their price has anything to say about it.
 
Jeez I've never had hornady jam or mis function in any way! sorry to hear about your experience I will be more proactive in testing my batches of SD ammo
 
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