miller.lyte
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Nothing says we can't publish our own site about self-defense stories.
Obama's new site- Tell us your story of gun violence.
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thepumpfaction
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My story.
I was in Staten Island. During the Hurricane Sandy blackout, a friend and I went to a convenience store to get some supplies for our parents. He waits in the car (drivers seat) while I buy what we need. As I'm getting back into the car, two young men (maybe 25 years old) approach the car. One pulls out a handgun and slams it on the roof of the car. The other pulls out his, points it through my open window, and directly at my head. Since we were in NYC, we were not allowed to carry firearms. We were completely defenseless. My friend panics and slams on the gas, and we just barely get away. At this point in time, we still couldn't get cell reception, so we could not report it immediately. It was about 1-2 hours before we could get to the local precinct. Sometimes, with stricter gun laws, we are only helping the criminals.
This is actually a true story. literally the absolute worst 30-45 seconds of my life. Thank you, Bloomberg.
EDIT: I know it's not very Highroad-ish, but it would be hilarious if everyone submitted stories like "So one time, I was breaking into a man's house to take his TV..." Like from the criminals point of view. I don't know, I have a strange sense of humor lmao
I was in Staten Island. During the Hurricane Sandy blackout, a friend and I went to a convenience store to get some supplies for our parents. He waits in the car (drivers seat) while I buy what we need. As I'm getting back into the car, two young men (maybe 25 years old) approach the car. One pulls out a handgun and slams it on the roof of the car. The other pulls out his, points it through my open window, and directly at my head. Since we were in NYC, we were not allowed to carry firearms. We were completely defenseless. My friend panics and slams on the gas, and we just barely get away. At this point in time, we still couldn't get cell reception, so we could not report it immediately. It was about 1-2 hours before we could get to the local precinct. Sometimes, with stricter gun laws, we are only helping the criminals.
This is actually a true story. literally the absolute worst 30-45 seconds of my life. Thank you, Bloomberg.
EDIT: I know it's not very Highroad-ish, but it would be hilarious if everyone submitted stories like "So one time, I was breaking into a man's house to take his TV..." Like from the criminals point of view. I don't know, I have a strange sense of humor lmao
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jrmiddleton425
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Hey, look at that...GunKid got a copy-writing job.
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SilentStalker
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Guys when I first heard about this I thought this was a very low blow myself and it still is. However, how can anyone take this as truth. What we need to worry about here is, "who is checking the validity of these stories?" Anyone could go on there and make up some BS stories. That is what we need to worry about and so far I have not read any pro gun stories on there which should be a big red flag. This site is nothing more than propaganda that seems to be true, since it is on a website, to the sheeple. This is a real problem. So, what are we going to do about it? The only thing I can think of is that we get a site up that shows real stories about guns being used in a good manner and make sure we validate those stories in some way.
I want to say that we have a site already. I think I found it on the high road a while back and this person was trying to track defensive gun uses through newspaper articles etc. Maybe someone who knows what I am talking about can remember the site? All we would have to do is promote that site more.
Fryerpower
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http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=703924&highlight=link+defensive+use+cato
A thread about it from last week.
I missed that you could post on the Cato site also. Bottom of the page. They are asking for a URL to verify the story. Good luck with that. I went ahead and posted my story there and included a coment that there was no URL because the gun made it a non-event. (My story is posted earlier in this thread)
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Well it has been over 24 hours since I submitted my story and it has not shown up.
Since it took place in Texas but I now live in Alabama I have been checking the list of stories for both states. I have noticed that in the past 24 hours there are no entries from Alabama and just the same entries from Texas now as yesterday.
I suspect that the site was "seeded" with the first entries you see and so far there have been no or very few new stories that were submitted that have been posted. Interesting.
It appears that they are deliberately screening entries to only allow ( so far very few ) stories about someone being the victim of a gun crime or comments in favor of strict gun control laws.
This site is pure hokum!
Since it took place in Texas but I now live in Alabama I have been checking the list of stories for both states. I have noticed that in the past 24 hours there are no entries from Alabama and just the same entries from Texas now as yesterday.
I suspect that the site was "seeded" with the first entries you see and so far there have been no or very few new stories that were submitted that have been posted. Interesting.
It appears that they are deliberately screening entries to only allow ( so far very few ) stories about someone being the victim of a gun crime or comments in favor of strict gun control laws.
This site is pure hokum!
SilentStalker
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^^^ exactly. So we need to promote our site on a large scale somehow. Maybe tell the NRA about it and see if they can somehow get the message out.
beatledog7
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Anti-gunners do not wish to be confronted with facts that run afoul of their agenda. They cannot counter them, so they simply ignore them.
A story in which a person used a gun to defend himself fits that category. You see, the anti-gun agenda ultimately holds that a gun has no role in private hands. To a staunch anti, a dead or raped subj--- er, uh--citizen is more noble and morally superior to a subj--- er, uh--citizen who prevented a rape or a murder with a firearm.
Similarly, while they will never admit this, they'd rather have another Sandy Hook than allow a teacher to practice CCW on the job or even to nix the mythical gun-free zones. Talk about being more noble and morally superior!
A story in which a person used a gun to defend himself fits that category. You see, the anti-gun agenda ultimately holds that a gun has no role in private hands. To a staunch anti, a dead or raped subj--- er, uh--citizen is more noble and morally superior to a subj--- er, uh--citizen who prevented a rape or a murder with a firearm.
Similarly, while they will never admit this, they'd rather have another Sandy Hook than allow a teacher to practice CCW on the job or even to nix the mythical gun-free zones. Talk about being more noble and morally superior!
22-rimfire
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It won't. The whole thing is rigged in my opinion. They want stories of violence to use to promote their gun legislation agenda, not the other way around. Some of you people are still a bit too trusting of the intentions of the government.
Here's what I posted on their site. I doubt that it'll pass their censors but it might! Hint: I was the little kid and it was 1968.
My three friends & I were driving along on a dark back road at about 1 am. We were all drunk. We spotted this nice looking lady driving along & decided to have some fun with her. We weren't going to hurt her much but were going to take turns having our way with her. We were trying to run her off the road when the back window rolls down & this little kid sticks this huge shotgun out the window. He was going to shoot us just because we were going to gang rape his mother. We slammed on the brakes & took off as fast as we could. There should be a law against guns!
Tuff-Gun Finishes. The Name Says It All.
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My three friends & I were driving along on a dark back road at about 1 am. We were all drunk. We spotted this nice looking lady driving along & decided to have some fun with her. We weren't going to hurt her much but were going to take turns having our way with her. We were trying to run her off the road when the back window rolls down & this little kid sticks this huge shotgun out the window. He was going to shoot us just because we were going to gang rape his mother. We slammed on the brakes & took off as fast as we could. There should be a law against guns!
Tuff-Gun Finishes. The Name Says It All.
Mac's Shootin' Irons
http://www.shootiniron.com
So I took my wife shooting for the first time and my mom was against it 100%. She said that there isn't a reason that anybody needs to carry a gun on them. Well about a week later she said you don't know what kind of crazy people are out there. "Well mom, would you want her to have a gun to protect herself and your grandkids when I'm not there to do it?" My mom has come to our side. I've convinced a new Yorker that ccw or open carry is a good thing and there shouldn't be limits on where it can go. Note we just need to get the rest of the state.
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grilledcheese
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Reddit---pure awesomeness.
Jeffrey
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Just like the "petitions" nonsense, this public-submission stuff is concocted to give the appearance of support for whatever the White House is pushing--a budding Ministry of Propaganda, if you will. Instead of contacting legislators, people post up worthless petitions that can easily (and legally) have the results changed at the whim of the webmasters. Instead of demanding local/national news stations cover self defense shootings and other legitimate uses for firearms, they post stories to a managed site where they will never be seen--except to be counted into the number of tales of gun-violence victims in support of control.
There's no fighting with propaganda; you really should just ignore it, convince others to ignore it as well, and make a note of who is responsible for it for the next election cycle.
TCB
There's no fighting with propaganda; you really should just ignore it, convince others to ignore it as well, and make a note of who is responsible for it for the next election cycle.
TCB
Update
I checked the site again to day just now and still no reports from Alabama. However, there is one new report from Texas.
This is pathetic! The gun control people must be very lazy to not have more reports by now!
Edit: I will not bother with this anymore. Just not important.
I checked the site again to day just now and still no reports from Alabama. However, there is one new report from Texas.
This is pathetic! The gun control people must be very lazy to not have more reports by now!
Edit: I will not bother with this anymore. Just not important.
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chemist308
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I think every one of us needs to do two things.
1. Write your house rep and demand they impeach Barrack Obama. He has done numerous things for which he is already impeachable--the appointment of Czars for one...
2. Go to that site and post something--anything. Just make it articulate, well written, and LENGTHY. Make sure you lead to reader screening it a bit so they don't discard it, but mention no gun violence outside of self defense. Let's give at least 30,000 or more responses.
1. Write your house rep and demand they impeach Barrack Obama. He has done numerous things for which he is already impeachable--the appointment of Czars for one...
2. Go to that site and post something--anything. Just make it articulate, well written, and LENGTHY. Make sure you lead to reader screening it a bit so they don't discard it, but mention no gun violence outside of self defense. Let's give at least 30,000 or more responses.
OilyPablo
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This thing is now on many gun boards. Write a story!
chemist308
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Hey, Ben Dover just submitted a 3 page story about a stormy night in Virginia. I wonder how many of my tax dollars will be needed to read it.
Fryerpower
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Well, two months have gone by and my submittal is still not up on their site. I guess they only want to hear the anti point of view. 
Jim
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They won't even let me tell my story unless it's printed on a check. I wonder if they are publishing stories about Ruby Ridge where a mother was killed holding her baby or maybe Waco where a bunch of kids were burned alive?
I wanted to tell how I sat through 2 armed robberies with guns pointed at me and both times I was a prime target for no thing I did. First time a moron ran out the front door of a McDonald's as SIX armed men were holding up the counter in front. Another guy was outside. If they had shot at him they would no doubt have hit me. He sat right behind me not more than 6 inches from me and the door was right beside his booth. The cops called him a hero. I wanted to knock his lights out. The second time I pulled int a crowded gas station back in the days a guy would roam around collecting money. This was on Christmas Eve. I was the only person in the whole, totally full lot that saw a man standing unnaturally close to another man behind him. At first I wondered if they were getting busy right in the parking lot but it was cold as heck and this was before people were out of the closet. Then I noticed the gun in the guy's back (right after I pulled up in the only empty spot by a pump which was right across from those two). The attendant handed him a roll of cash that would have choked a hippo because it was the only gas station open in the entire town. Lucky for me the LEO's had just left on another call even though they were supposed to have that station staked out. I saw they were about to arrest the attendant. Silly me, I couldn't let him go to jail so I spoke up. Then I was the instant suspect in a plot to just steal the station's money with a guy I never met before. I spent all night in that crummy police station answering the same questions over and over. I should have demanded a lawyer but I thought those cops would have a brain somewhere in the room even if they had to look for it. Eventually, after I got ticked at the LEO's, they let me go saying they might be at my house to arrest me the next day. So much for getting involved. But I would have regretted it all my life if I didn't help that poor slob.
My big problem was I didn't have a gun with me either time. It was before concealed carry. It was WAY before it in fact. If I had a gun I would still be in jail today. Now I will have to decide whether to plug some joker with a gun in the back of an attendant (life in danger???) but if the clowns at McD's (not those clowns) wouldn't be so sure I was unarmed now. And I just might not be. I could have returned fire across a crowded fast foot joint. Yeah right. At least I have a "chance" to protect myself and my wife now. She was with me both times BTW. She didn't even see the gun at the gas station. That was pretty iffy I guess with me being the only one out of 50 people in that station lot that saw the robbery go down. I guess I can't blame the LEO's too much but I KNOW I didn't have anything to do with that robbery.
I wanted to tell how I sat through 2 armed robberies with guns pointed at me and both times I was a prime target for no thing I did. First time a moron ran out the front door of a McDonald's as SIX armed men were holding up the counter in front. Another guy was outside. If they had shot at him they would no doubt have hit me. He sat right behind me not more than 6 inches from me and the door was right beside his booth. The cops called him a hero. I wanted to knock his lights out. The second time I pulled int a crowded gas station back in the days a guy would roam around collecting money. This was on Christmas Eve. I was the only person in the whole, totally full lot that saw a man standing unnaturally close to another man behind him. At first I wondered if they were getting busy right in the parking lot but it was cold as heck and this was before people were out of the closet. Then I noticed the gun in the guy's back (right after I pulled up in the only empty spot by a pump which was right across from those two). The attendant handed him a roll of cash that would have choked a hippo because it was the only gas station open in the entire town. Lucky for me the LEO's had just left on another call even though they were supposed to have that station staked out. I saw they were about to arrest the attendant. Silly me, I couldn't let him go to jail so I spoke up. Then I was the instant suspect in a plot to just steal the station's money with a guy I never met before. I spent all night in that crummy police station answering the same questions over and over. I should have demanded a lawyer but I thought those cops would have a brain somewhere in the room even if they had to look for it. Eventually, after I got ticked at the LEO's, they let me go saying they might be at my house to arrest me the next day. So much for getting involved. But I would have regretted it all my life if I didn't help that poor slob.
My big problem was I didn't have a gun with me either time. It was before concealed carry. It was WAY before it in fact. If I had a gun I would still be in jail today. Now I will have to decide whether to plug some joker with a gun in the back of an attendant (life in danger???) but if the clowns at McD's (not those clowns) wouldn't be so sure I was unarmed now. And I just might not be. I could have returned fire across a crowded fast foot joint. Yeah right. At least I have a "chance" to protect myself and my wife now. She was with me both times BTW. She didn't even see the gun at the gas station. That was pretty iffy I guess with me being the only one out of 50 people in that station lot that saw the robbery go down. I guess I can't blame the LEO's too much but I KNOW I didn't have anything to do with that robbery.
nwilliams
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What a pathetic attempt by Obama to sway public opinion.
There are two types of people that are going to visit that site:
Person A who is anti-gun and who sees availability of guns as the problem.
Person B who is pro gun and sees the availability of guns as a means of protection against violent people.
Person A will visit that site already believing guns are evil and create violence thus should be taken away, they see the stories on that site as evidence for their belief.
Person B will visit that site already believing that guns are a means of protection against violence, they will see the stories on that site as support for their belief.
The end result is that site is not going to sway anyone's opinion one way or the other, those who visit that site already know what they believe.
There are two types of people that are going to visit that site:
Person A who is anti-gun and who sees availability of guns as the problem.
Person B who is pro gun and sees the availability of guns as a means of protection against violent people.
Person A will visit that site already believing guns are evil and create violence thus should be taken away, they see the stories on that site as evidence for their belief.
Person B will visit that site already believing that guns are a means of protection against violence, they will see the stories on that site as support for their belief.
The end result is that site is not going to sway anyone's opinion one way or the other, those who visit that site already know what they believe.
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