A true duty holster should have a strong snap, probably a one-way type and maybe some other retention methods.
If the cylinder will turn with the gun holstered, the fitment is wrong or the holster is worn out. Shouldn't have to rely on the strap or thumbreak for retention. IMHO, this is what happens with generic fit holsters. A S&W N-frame should never be carried in a holster that fits a Redhawk and a Redhawk shouldn't fit a holster made for an N-frame.
I wouldn't worry about it, it's not as if holster makers specifically design holsters to prevent cylinder spin throughout their useful lifetime.The redhawk will also spin in its holster if you thumb the hammer. Like the 29 it takes a bit more effort but not a ton.
I wouldn't worry about it, it's not as if holster makers specifically design holsters to prevent cylinder spin throughout their useful lifetime.
I've deer hunted with both revolvers and semi autos for years. Usually my revolvers ride in a leather, thumb snap over the hammer holster with an enclosed trigger. Think Bianchi cyclone
I recently ordered a new holster for a new 44 mag I ordered to hunt with. DA revolver. Unfortunatly I ordered the Bianchi 5bhl holster. Open trigger. It does have the thumb snap. As well as a closed muzzle.
The company i ordered from will gladly take it back and exchange for the cyclone I have zero doubt there. But are there any on here who actually use and prefer the open trigger? Any benefit at all?
I've passed up the "box of unloved holster" stage many years ago. I'm up to "uhaul load of unloved holsters" just don't need another one I'll hate. But considering giving it a try
I'm with others here who feel the holster should protect the gun. I generally prefer a flap holster.
I carried in a 5BHL for many years and never gave it a second thought, to my mind it was one of the best belt holsters for a 4 inch revolver.
I had one.
It was a great holster, fitting my kframe 357 perfectly.
I hunted deer with it for years.
The Bianchi 5L is a quality holster.
I respect the opinions of the others, but with the thumbsnap coverage over the uncocked hammer. It is safe.
It is a slim, good-looking, easy carrying holster.
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It's not the intent, just a byproduct of a properly fitting holster. Everything about the inherent retention of a revolver holster "revolves" around the cylinder. If it doesn't fit snugly around the cylinder, it's going to be too loose to have any sort of retention and it won't be tight enough to prevent wear. The safety aspect is a byproduct of that.I wouldn't worry about it, it's not as if holster makers specifically design holsters to prevent cylinder spin throughout their useful lifetime.
Thanks for the lesson, professor.Sorry about the rant ...it's a slow day and my Mom was an English teacher and always insisted we Talk Right !
I have a cyclone also.
It's more generic fit than the leather 5BL. I carried my 7½" Blackhawk in it.
My cyclone is ... cordura.
I attached it my safety harness shoulder strap for use in the deer stand over my hunting bibs.
The 5BL is classy IMHO. Slide it onto your belt and go.
If I hadn't traded out of my 6" 669 taurus I would still be using it. It went with the gun in trade.
My 669 was a kframe sized gun. I am a bit surprised that a 44mag nframe would even fit in a 5BHL
The post you quoted from me was a response to a post that contained information about two revolver holster that fit tightly and provide retention and yet allow the cylinders to spin.If it doesn't fit snugly around the cylinder, it's going to be too loose to have any sort of retention and it won't be tight enough to prevent wear.
Wouldn't worry about that if I were you. I have it on good authority that the issue is "HUGELY exaggerated".The safety aspect is a byproduct of that.
What do you like about the open trigger vs a cyclone or similar which is the same holster but closed trigger?
Back in my hunting days I never used a holster that covered the trigger and never had an incident. Around here there is nothing to fall off of and you DO NOT get close enough to the bushes to hang or even scratch anything. Mesquites are equipped with long sharp thorns and that's all we have to avoid. We have a jillion oaks but they are only about 2 feet tall.
I'm with CraigC on this point...if the fit is right and the rig is made of good quality leather, thick enough for the gun, the cylinder should not turn. Most of what I build is a variation on the old Tom Threepersons design, but with an open toe to allow debris/water etc to fall through.IMHO, the issue about exposed triggers on revolver holsters is HUGELY exaggerated. Seems to me it's all borne out of the issues with Glocks having AD's when reholstering. It spawned a whole slew of myths, misconceptions and unfounded fears. We deal with it nearly daily with leathermakers who think everything is a Glock. Striker fired guns and DA autos, absolutely cover that trigger. Revolvers, it is a total non-issue. Revolver triggers have been exposed on holster designs going back 170yrs. The Threepersons is probably one of the most popular holster designs ever devised. The Bianchi 5BHL and Lawman have been in production for decades. They're classics. If the exposed trigger was a problem, they would not make them at all during these litigious times.
If the holster fits, there's no way the cylinder is going to turn when the gun is holstered.
From earlier in the thread.I'm an amateur, but with any holster I make, the fit is such that the rig can be turned upside down and shaken and the gun will not fall out, and that's without a thong or keeper strap.
Two holsters that will retain even upside down without the strap but that don't prevent the cylinder from spinning.Fits tight. Don't fall out if upside down without the snap either (it's a 329 so it's light though, my other 29s are longer barrel steel models, they might) . Id never tried to spin it holstered until someone in this thread asked. Ive carried that and one other cyclone (7 inch redhawk) for years. The redhawk will also spin in its holster if you thumb the hammer. Like the 29 it takes a bit more effort but not a ton. The retention is provided by the guns cylinder popping down into the wider spot. Feels like only the back of the cylinder is actually dragging.
Not sure how relevant that is. Most revolver gun games have a totally different set of design parameters than a concealed or field carry holster. Most of them look like this.I think cowboy action, SASS might be the only gun game where exposed triggers in holsters are allowed.