Overpricing is ridiculous.

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It is amusing on THR when there are countless threads of "how much should I pay", or "did I get a great deal." (always someone chimes in with some super low price or how much they paid in 1982)

Now there are threads of people trying to buy as much black rifles and accessories as they can because of current events. It is panic buying.

If you don't like the price, don't pay it. Prices are a two way street and now is not the time to find a deal.

Maybe go out and shoot more.
 
If one doesn't like the price, don't buy it. Be assured this will pass, just like last time, and all the deals will come back around. Patience my friends, patience.
 
It baffles me that people can get so offended by what price another individual asks for their own property. It's really none of your business.


Threads like these just prove the economic illiteracy of the general population which is why we are doomed as far as saving the country from bankruptcy.
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Amen! Greed on the consumer level is one of the big reasons why we're in such a mess.
 
I would have expected this from retail and dealers but now I am starting to see it in private sales. Just today I saw someone posting a used Colt AR15 without extras for $2000, and someone else posting another Colt AR15 never shot still in the box for $4500!!
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If you frequent Gun Broker or one of the other gun auction sites, you would see that delusional pricing is quite common. People can ask for whatever outragous price they want for their guns, it does not mean anyone will pay it.
 
Mr. Cash pawn in Oakland TN quoted me $119 for an AR lower yesterday. I drove up there he told me $300. I understand making a buck, but i drove there after a quote. I will no longer do business with Mr. Cash pawn.
 
Years back I was looking for a shotgun online and found it at a store in Waxahachie TX. Before I made the road trip I gave them a call. He told me he would check and call me back. 15 min later he did call me back and said that he did have it in stock and told me the asking price that was $100 more than what it was their website on my computer screen. He suggested I hit refresh, I did and low and behold the price changed.

Yep, once he knew someone was interested he wanted to "go check" so he could change the price.

Folks that do that kind of business don't get any of my business.
 
NeuseRvrRat said:
this is capitalism. sorry you don't like it, comrade.
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No, this is not a discussion about capitalism. This is discussion about a distorted free market. The distortion, as usual, is coming from the potential threat of government regulation (intervention in the market).

Capitalism is the private ownership of production, and the selling of goods for a profit. Nobody has said that is not intact.

A free market is where the pricing of goods bought and sold is determined by supply and demand, without government intervention or regulation. Again, pricing and demand are being distorted by the possibility of future government regulation. The free market is being punctuated by profiteering at the moment.

So, none of us should "like it" ... and if you do, you have no idea what capitalism or free markets are really about.
 
Nothing wrong with making a buck.
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Well not legally, it's true. You can gouge all you want over this. Me, I sold my AR carbine for a fair price even though I could have gouged and gotten $600 or more additional from it. But I have some scruples, and that kind of profit is blood money, created by people who want to destroy us. I won't do it.

It baffles me that people can get so offended by what price another individual asks for their own property.
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Because they're seeking to benefit from the actions of the enemy.
 
No, this is not a discussion about capitalism. This is discussion about a distorted free market. The distortion, as usual, is coming from the potential threat of government regulation (
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of course it is. "distortion" as you call it, is part of capitalism and fundamental to the law of supply and demand. the source of the "distortion" is irrelevant, and could be from a natural disaster, or whatever.

when a market stops being free, is when the gov sets price controls


btw, right or wrong, the legal definition of "price gouging" requires that there be a disaster of some sort like a hurricane AND the goods in question be essentials like food or gas, AND that the price increase is not justified by normal costs. So just understand that there is a difference in the legal definition in most states and the common usage which is largely based on the feelings of people who don't understand economics
 
The buyers....
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Exactly!

Why are shooters so pissed about their fellow shooters making a buck or two? If you're stupid enough to run out and pay $5000 for a SCAR 17, you probably deserve to be separated from your money.

What is sad is when folks like ourselves, who probably all get some type of gun-related stuff for Christmas, can't fill our stockings because the profiteers, hoarders, Chicken Littles and speculators have gobbled up all the supply. My Christmas rifle showed up without a serial number and thus will have to be destroyed. I'm having a really hard time finding a suitable replacement for under my tree.
 
Yea but what sucks for me is i decided to buy an AR a month ago before all this happened, my brother and i were going to get back into shooting.

Then i hear about the ban and the panic and i go ahead and snatch one up...and im not complaning about the price of the mags but some of us still remember what it was like being limited to 10rds and deciding to carry a glock 26 since there was no need for a larger gun or even owning a rifle unless you were a hunter..... Also i dont see the point in buying a nice rifle unless you have at least 30 round mags (unless you are a hunter or hard core accuracy/targe shooter).

I wanted it to put a way for a SHTF situation (which over the years seems more ever present than it was)....

But im not complaining about anything other than the really really bad conicendential timing of this happening right as i was making my purchase. (not everyone who is buying up is a panic buyer/ band wagon/ or non gun owner).
 
I've got mixed feelings on this one:
  • On the one hand, I'll buy from folks in the future that I didn't see taking advantage of this situation.
  • On the other hand, if prices go up much higher I've got a low usage SCAR 16s that I'd be willing to sell.
If you offer me blue-book wholesale for my car I'm going to say "no, thanks." If you offer me 6x blue book retail I'll be happy to sell you my car and buy something else, even if it's in another class of vehicle. And by the way, I'm planning on keeping my car for another 10 years.

At the right price, though...
 
if you remember what it was like being limited to 10 rnds, you really have no excuse at all. that ban expired eight years ago


derek, yeah... somebody offers me 2x for my ARs, i'd probably sell them
 
Yep, if you haven't stocked up on mags in the last 8 years....*sigh*...your gonna have to wait till this blows over, and hope 30 rounders are still legal.
 
inkinskin said:
I would have expected this from retail and dealers but now I am starting to see it in private sales. Just today I saw someone posting a used Colt AR15 without extras for $2000, and someone else posting another Colt AR15 never shot still in the box for $4500!!

I am starting to fear what is to come.
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No need to fear as there is no need to pay that price unless you want to do so.

Quite frankly, I get a chuckle outta these cloudy-day opportunists- their prices seem to get more outlandish each time this kinda crap occurs and there is always someone there, cash-in-hand, willing to reward them.

Honestly man, pass on the "deal" and watch the show. Where else can you get this sorta entertainment for free? :confused:
 
taliv said:
of course it is. "distortion" as you call it, is part of capitalism and fundamental to the law of supply and demand. the source of the "distortion" is irrelevant, and could be from a natural disaster, or whatever.

when a market stops being free, is when the gov sets price controls


btw, right or wrong, the legal definition of "price gouging" requires that there be a disaster of some sort like a hurricane AND the goods in question be essentials like food or gas, AND that the price increase is not justified by normal costs. So just understand that there is a difference in the legal definition in most states and the common usage which is largely based on the feelings of people who don't understand economics
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Thank you for making that clear, taliv. That needed to be said. :)
 
Looking at it from the other side, I have a nice Rock River that I do not want to sell. But the first $5000 takes it!
 
If you frequent Gun Broker or one of the other gun auction sites, you would see that delusional pricing is quite common.
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THIS..... Almost anything I search for you will find a few astronomically high prices..


But heck if I can get 10k for my LaRue ill sell it and order a few more... LOL...
 
I guess "liberty" and "freedom" to some here, are NOT supposed to extend to a selling price?

Guess I was ahead of the curve with my online shopping last weekend, in buying up 30 rd. PMags.

BTW-Went onto Midway USAs site and they were restricting sales of 30 rders. to (2) per customer, with exorbinant S&H fees; would have been $34 for 2 mags?!? Adios Midway USA...
 
derek, yeah... somebody offers me 2x for my ARs, i'd probably sell them
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if they are wiling to go 2x would they go 4x.

Just a bunch of people who really didn't want one but get stupid when they think they can't have one. Everyone that really wanted something that is not a total newbie had what they needed over 4 years ago.

Why are folks not complaining about they $2000 38spl revolvers on gunbroker?
 
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