Pizza shop owner's....should carry?

[kingpin008]

Chaim - This was Roma's Pizza & Subs on Phelps Luck Drive in Columbia. I haven't worked there in years, so this was awhile back, but it's the only time I know of where they had an (attempted) robbery. I agree with you, in that Columbia and surrounding areas are going to pot. I've lived here my whole life, and in the past decade, it's gotten more and more ridiculous. Hell, I remember calling the cops earlier this year to report what sounded like gunshots at the little park down the street from us, and rather than sending a car, the dispatcher quizzed me for fifteen minutes on whether or not it was a car backfiring, was I sure it wasn't just fireworks (which confuses me, because aren't they illegal too?) etc, etc. I finally had to tell her that unless she wanted me to wander down the street in the dark and ask whoever was making the noise whether they had a gun or some cherry bombs, they'd have to send a car. Then I hung up.

They finally sent a car, but he didn't even get out to take my report. Just drove down the street with his spotlight on, and then took off again.

Bah. Anyway. I agree with you again in that if I were forced to work such a job again (which I probably would if I could make a living at it, I like working at little hole-in-the-wall pizza joints) I'd find a way to arm myself as well as I was able. It's just not worth it to go without a weapon - whether that means a kitchen knife, gun, club, or whatever.

 

[chaim]

My last pizza delivery job was Romas. Jeff is a character isn't he?

If those gunshots you heard were just over a year ago, I probably heard them too. For a few years, until about a year ago, I had moved back with my parents, they live around Phelps Luck. There have been a couple times in the past 2 or 3 years that I thought I heard gunshots (probably around Jackson Pond, or the woods nearby, certainly no further than Locust Park).

if I were forced to work such a job again (which I probably would if I could make a living at it, I like working at little hole-in-the-wall pizza joints)

Yeah me too, at least when I was younger. I used to love delivering pizza. I like driving, you are generally left alone by your bosses, you can listen to whatever you want while working (not what the manager wants over the store/office radio or worse, nothing), little real responsibility. Back before gas was too insane, in a relatively safe suburban area (Columbia in the early 90s) and in my early 20s it was a fun job, and the pay wasn't that bad (I noticed when I did it again a few years ago that tips have not increased with inflation and gas prices). Today, I'm not sure that I'd like it that much though.

 

[kingpin008]

Haha, small world! Yeah, Jeff is definitely a unique guy. He gave me a lot of help when I needed it, sometimes when he really didn't have to. I've thought about going back to work for him, but some of the people who work there now, I just don't get along with very well (mikey the delivery driver, for one) and it isn't worth burning any bridges. Last time I worked for Jeff, I ended up getting into a yelling match with mikey and another driver because they kept being greedy and taking orders without signing them out of the system, thus screwing up our whole day. How long ago did you work there? We might have run into each other at some point.

You'd be right about Jackson Pond and the paths. Now, all the hoodrats and dealers from down around where Long Reach High is come down to the walking paths and the lake and deal and do whatever they do, because there's hardly any lights, so they know if anyone calls the cops all they have to do is walk like five feet back into the woods and crouch down, and they can't be seen. I tell ya - if Columbia would spend a quarter of what it spends bringing in new Wal-Marts and office buildings on lights for the actual communities and a few more cops, there wouldn't be as much of a problem.

Anyway. Don't wanna keep derailing Esmith's thread. I'd love to keep talking over PM, if you want.

 

[bleachcola]

So you will continue to drive threads off topic until they are locked? That's class for you.

So if I address a point that somebody else has already brought up in the thread then I'm the one driving it off topic? I don't attempt to bring anything new to a thread, just address what is already there.

 

[pappy]

I work in a pizza shop as a pizza jockey. I carry all the time.

Hopefully not Pizza Hut, that'll get you fired! :banghead:

 

[woof]

bleachcola, I honestly get the feeling you are in search of an argument. All your points have been made. There are always multiple points of view. We call it high road because we like to just drop it when that point is reached. With less than 100 posts on THR, you would do well to demur at this point.

 

[kingpin008]

So if I address a point that somebody else has already brought up in the thread then I'm the one driving it off topic?

Correct. I offered to discuss it with you privately in PM's, which was the courteous, polite thing to do. But you declined, choosing instead to carry out an argument with me here despite my repeatedly pointing out I didn't wish to argue with you at all. By "shouting into the void", as it were, you're driving the thread off-topic by forcing people to respond to your off-topic comments which I already offered to discuss with you in a seperate, private area.

The offer of private discussion still stands, by the way. Feel free to PM me anytime and if I have something to contribute, I'll respond in kind.

 

[esmith]

So if I address a point that somebody else has already brought up in the thread then I'm the one driving it off topic? I don't attempt to bring anything new to a thread, just address what is already there

Its called the private message function. You and kingpin arguing back and forth sent the other members away from posting on the thread, and now its basically dead. Kingpin, who took the highroad, dropped it. He offered to take it to PMs as well, something you didn't want to do. You seem to want to start an argument and this is not the only evidence of it. Im sure if we all took a look at your thread in the shotgun forum it would be confirmed once and for all.

 

[bleachcola]

You're setting a bad example for me here. You are doing exact what you are telling me not to do. You're addressing an off topic point when you could have PM'd me that info.

 

[kingpin008]

Bleach - I tried to set the proper example for you a few pages back, when I offered to continue this in PM's. You chose to continue it here, just as you've apparently chosen not to PM Esmith and continue it with him privately. As it stands, I still haven't recieved a PM from you. How can I or anyone here set an example if you won't take heed of what we're trying to lay out for you?

And I'll say it yet again - I'm still more than willing to continue this in PM's, should you so choose. Not sure I'd have much else to say, but if you'd like to talk, you're more than welcome to drop me a message.

 

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[Dark_Harvest]

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[Double Naught Spy]

Pizza shop owner's....should carry?

Every business that deals with cash, such a a pizza place, should have a firearm for defense, IMHO. The fact that it is a 'pizza' place isn't terrible relevant.

 

[56FordGuy]

Several years ago, I worked in a retail paintball store. There were two employees, myself and the manager, who I'd been friends with for years before we began working together. There was a loaded Ruger P90 beneath the counter, beside the register, beneath an old shirt. We were both comfortable with the situation, and aware of the responsibility associated with it.

As for pizza delivery drivers, there was an incident a month or two ago here in Nashville. I don't recall all the details, but long story short a pizza place received an order that made the call taker uncomfortable. Call taker/ clerk called the police, the police sent an officer disguised an a delivery person to deliver the pizza. When he arrived, the customer attempted to rob the officer at gunpoint. Things did not go well for the robber. Kudos to the clerk for acting on a call that didn't seem quite right, but what if he hadn't, and a regular delivery driver had gone out? IMHO, in today's climate, food delivery is a very dangerous job. You go to the customer, and it's common knowledge that you're usually paid in cash, or at least tipped in cash. An ideal target, for sure.

 

[WVMountainBoy]

Pizza places are a common target, though as my understanding more so the delivery staff. I often argue on behalf of them carrying a weapon. Funny thing is, WV would let them, the business doesn't. Also run into a lot of people under 21 working in such places which muddies things up a little. I think businesses open after dark should have a weapon on premise, but they'd have to be careful as to whom had access to it. They'd also have to check their staff carefully and not be able to hire felons and such.