Legionnaire
Contributing Member
I'd buy a couple of $200 700s if I saw them. You can't buy an action for that price.
The length, yes. But you would also need to change the bolt as the bolt face of the .223 is smaller (.384 vs .473). A good gunsmith could open the bolt face up, but you'd no longer have a $200 rifle.Is the .223 action length usable with a .308/6.5CM length cartridge if I switch barrels out?
Yes the 223 guns are made on a short action 700 that is built around the 308. The feed lips in the bottom of the receiver would need to be opened up and a new bolt.Is the .223 action length usable with a .308/6.5CM length cartridge if I switch barrels out?
I'd buy a couple of $200 700s if I saw them. You can't buy an action for that price.
Decided to pass on the .223. I would rather pay the $389 than get a rifle in a caliber that is difficult to deal with (in conversion) and I already have a good .223 rifle.
770s are $124 at Walmart right now, in various calibers.The current 700 is still a 700. The 770 (originally the 710) is/was indeed a cheaper lookalike targeted at the first time owner and occasional shooter. I date myself, but I think of the 710 as Remington's version of IBM's PC Junior ... one of Remington's many marketing blunders.
After reading this post I started trying to think of positive traits of the 770. Took several minutes but I finally came up with one: the 770 is an improvement over the 710.770s are $124 at Walmart right now, in various calibers.
At that price, I’m tempted. $124!
You were lied to.It's been about 5 years, but when I was shopping, I found "Remington 700s" advertised on sale at one box store (since closed) for ~$350-400, and when I went to check them out, found out they were actually 770's. The gun counter guy swore that it REALLY WAS a 700, then when I came back the next day to buy it, he told me that there was no way a real 700 would sell for that price.
Maybe it was just a bad experience with that one chain, but it certainly made me a lot more cautious when I'm shopping. Maybe that's why that particular store is closed. I guess I may be extrapolating too much from one experience, so take it fwiw...
Isn’t $124 a positive trait?After reading this post I started trying to think of positive traits of the 770. Took several minutes but I finally came up with one: the 770 is an improvement over the 710.
Not to me because they aren’t worth 124.00 in my mind, except maybe as an expensive gag gift to LoonWulf.Isn’t $124 a positive trait?
Is that like a cat leaving dead stuff in your shoe?Not to me because they aren’t worth 124.00 in my mind, except maybe as an expensive gag gift to LoonWulf.
I owned a 770 for less than 24 hours, I didnt even need to shoot it to know I wasnt keeping it. I bought it on a whim and immediately regretted it. The way it cycled a round was horrendous. No way. I think the movie shooter might have been responsible for a slight surge in popularity for the 700 back in the late 2000's. I've never shot one but always wanted one, til I joined this forum and lost all interest in the 700The current 700 is still a 700. The 770 (originally the 710) is/was indeed a cheaper lookalike targeted at the first time owner and occasional shooter. I date myself, but I think of the 710 as Remington's version of IBM's PC Junior ... one of Remington's many marketing blunders.
You use both 770 and 700 apparently interchangeable here and yet they are very different guns. Did you mean 700 or 770?I owned a 770 for less than 24 hours, I didnt even need to shoot it to know I wasnt keeping it. I bought it on a whim and immediately regretted it. The way it cycled a round was horrendous. No way. I think the movie shooter might have been responsible for a slight surge in popularity for the 700 back in the late 2000's. I've never shot one but always wanted one, til I joined this forum and lost all interest in the 700
No, I'm aware they are totally different firearms. Refer to the poster I quoted text from in my post who was discussing the 770. His post quotes a poster who was apparently unaware of the difference between the 700 and 770.You use both 770 and 700 apparently interchangeable here and yet they are very different guns. Did you mean 700 or 770?
Even with in the 700 family of firearms there is a huge variety of features and performance just from Remington let alone all the aftermarket modification they have received. A $400 dollar 700 ADL is a very different animal than an $11,000 M2010 despite both being built on basically the same 700 receiver and sold by Remington.
What is it about the Remington 700 ??This is not to bash on Remington or their Model 700. I just want to understand why this particular rifle has such a following and particularly has such a deep aftermarket for parts, stocks, bits and pieces? Is it because the military used the action for some sniper rifles? They are nice rifles granted and attractive, but since around 1982 the bolt does not lock, they are not controlled feed (and neither of which is terribly important to me) and the Model 700 is not especially inexpensive, solid middle of the market pricing. What is it about the Model 700? Maybe I need to add one to my small selection? It seems to be the 1022 of bolt guns!