I think it is ludicris the way private property owners will post "no guns", I think that is just asking for trouble, for instance a "no gun" sign is not going to keep out crimanals who come to a store church gas station or wherever with the idea of shooting the place up, and it keeps out law abiding carryers from carrying there, supose or crimanal is trying to find a place to go shootup for whatever reason if I was a one I would fine one that had posted "no guns" because that would be the last place that there would be someone else with a gun, I don't know how many people heard about the shooting at New life church in Colarado springs but my opinion is that if they had not had posted "no guns" (and I don't know if they did or not for sure I'm just speculating, somebody correct me if I'm wrong) then the chances are that guy would have thought twice about going in there to shoot the place up or if not that there would maybe have been somebody besides a security guard with a gun, maybe there where and they were just not in the right place at the right time but my point still is that I think that having posted "no guns" is asking for trouble