spankaveli
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IMO and from what understand, handing them your permit is notification. The officer might have been having a bad day.
You must notify them that you are armed. That piece of paper just gives you the right to carry, but doesn't say you have the firearm with you. Nothing is to be assumed. You must verbally notify the LEO that you are armed. He can't assume you know and understand your rights as he arrests you.What they said is ridiculous - handing them the CHL is notifying them as soon as you could and is perfectly reasonable.
I was pulled over today for speeding while carrying. The LEO was pretty cool about it. I did have one little snag with informing as required by Ohio law. The LEO started talking to me before he even got close to my car, when he reached my window I handed him my DL and CHL while he was still talking. He obviously didn't run my plates before walking up to my car because he looked supprised when he realized he was holding my CHL. When he asked me if I had the weapon in the car I said yes, locked in the glove box. He then asked me why I didn't offer that information before he had to ask. I just told him that I didn't have a chance to say anything because he was talking to me. Anyway, he checked to make sure the glove box was locked and went back to his car to write me a ticket for speeding. His buddy, still standing by my car asked me what kind of gun I had, and a few other gun related questions, overall being kind of nice. He did tell me next time I get pulled over to let them know first thing, even if I have to talk over them to tell them. Well, the other guy got out of his cruiser and had me sign the ticket and I was on my way. No problems for the most part, other than a ticket....Oh well, I knew I was speeding. I have no idea why that particular road is posted at 25 mph.
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I am a cop in New York and as far as I know there is no rule anywhere in NY that makes notification of carrying concealed to LE on a traffic stop mandatory or compulsory. I have stopped hundereds of vehicles and not one person has ever told me this. I would however expect a full warning if the gun is in the glove box with the registration. Any way why would it be in the glovebox if you have a CC permit? It should be on your person right?
Also, in Texas, and I'm sure any other state, a CHL (by statute) is automatic probable cause to search your vehicle.
He did tell me next time I get pulled over to let them know first thing, even if I have to talk over them to tell them.
"I've got a gun!! I've got a gun!!"
I did ask about running the plates. He said that it would have come up as an alert--just as if I was wanted. He'd have to go a couple of screens deep on his computer to find out the alert was for a CCW.
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Also, in Texas, and I'm sure any other state, a CHL (by statute) is automatic probable cause to search your vehicle.
Say what? This is the first time I've ever seen this mentioned. Is that for real?