Remington 7600 - suggested new cartridges?

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What cartridge would you like to see offered in the Remington 7600 pump rifle/carbine not currently in the line-up???

I'm thinking a Remington 7600 in 450 Bushmaster with a 18-1/2 barrel would be nice.

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I like the Remington pump guns since they don't look like an EBR. It's easy to say with a straight face "it's a hunting rifle", yet they would be good for a SHTF scenario.

Disclaimer. This is just 'bar talk' or plain old fashion BS on a day that is cold and snowing, so don't expect anything to come from this.
I do not have any connection what-so-ever with market research or product development at Remington.

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All you need to understand is that Remington today is not the same company that it was 10 years ago.
It is more like a holding company and that they have moved their production south of the Mason Dixon line and that the quality has suffered because of it.
The 7600 is limited - because of the length of the action, the size of the ejection port and the strength of the action.
In order to accommodate a more modern action / chamber pressure - you would have to redesign the trigger group and the bolt and most everything else inside of the action.

Browning did this over 10 years ago and failed because they refused to move the latch which operated the release for the pump. The action actually came open on me many times while I was hunting - making me miss one or two trophy class deer.

Cartridges that would have saved the 7600 - (if you brought back the blued action and the RKW high gloss wood) - would be the 7mm Remington Magnum and the .300 Winchester magnum.

Too many people confuse bench rest accuracy with hunting rifles and so the pump action rifle was given a bad reputation by gun writers 50 years ago - which their reputation has never recovered, even though all Remington pump action rifles has a free float barrel...
More deer in Pennsylvania has probably been taken with the 760 - 7600 then all the model 70 Winchester's - used in the whole world.
 
More importantly than caliber change, they need to ditch that Monte-Carlo style stock.

That stock does not work at all with the iron sights provided.
 
Great thread!

I have one in 30'06 and one in .308 (the 30' does not suffer in the least for accuracy).

I'd have to say I agree with 300WinMag and 7mmRemMag. 22-250 would be sweet, but they do make .243's, so not likely... How about 8mmMauser??
 
I would like to see one in .45acp that uses 1911 mags with a mag adapter. It would be a cool pump .45ACP. Thread the barrel for a can and it would be a sweet piece.
 
35 REMINGTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

or 7.62x39 on the 7615 variant


What would .450 bushmaster do that a 20ga 870 slug gun wouldn't for much cheaper
 
Conhntr suggested the 45-70.

I read once that the 7600 is more or less a straight pull bolt action, so I assume that like most box magazine bolt actions it would be easier to feed rimless cartridges. It might be a better fit to go with one of the cartridges the AR-15 guys have financed that give 45-70 ballistics, but without the rimmed case; such as the 50 Beowulf, 458 SOCOM, or the 450 Bushmaster.

Piper106
 
"What would .450 bushmaster do that a 20ga 870 slug gun wouldn't for much cheaper"

Probably nothing... but then what would we have to talk about on cold winter days??

Piper106
 
R. W. there have been some .35 Remington's out there. I have one converted to .358 Winchester, a favorite of mine.

I would like to see the 7mm-08 also.

Every once in awhile Remington does a special run of 35rem in the 7600.

I had a 7600 in 35 whelen and man it shot good! And kill at both ends when you pulled the trigger.


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Rimless 444, made from a straight wall cut down 30-06 or 308 1.5-2 inches long, fast twist barrel to stabalize big heavy bullets. 300 gr bullets should be able to be driven about1800-2000 or subsonic to be quiet hog thumpers. Seems I came across some 400 gr. cast or jacketed bullets 429 that would equal the 45-70 loads.
 
If big Green had been paying attention, they would have given us:

1. A forend that dosen't rattle. (the 7600's I handled didn't seem as bad in this respect as the 760 I had. It is my #2 complaint against the 760/7600)

2. Find a way to improve the ergonomics of the forend. The arm has to be extened to properly operate the action. In practice, carrying the gun for long periods of time, such as in hunting, the gun becomes very uncomfortable, whether sitting in a stand, or walking and carrying it other than slung upside down (muzzle pointing down). My #1 complaint. (notice how many Rem. 870's have slings..... mine does!)
BTW: my M760 was in .35Rem, and was unbelievably accurate with a stout- over the book max load of H322 and a Sierra 200gr RN. Impact on deer had to be seen to be believed.

3. The most "natural cartridges" for this rifle would have been the .358Win, the .338Federal, and the .338/06. But also have to add: .257Roberts- my favorite deer cart. (originally offered in predecesor to 760), and many, many other cartridges.

The .338/06, in particular offers better both internal and external ballistics over the .35Whelen. With not particularily warm loads, I get 2,550fps from a 250gr Hornady PtSpt from my .338/06. This is not far off from what a .338winMag gets from a similar length barrel. For from deer to great bears, you couldn't beat (IMO) the .338/06 in a gun with the reliability of a pump gun for places like Alaska. The 250gr Nosler Partition at 2,550-2,650fps is a formidable cartridge. The .338WinMag at 2,650fps with a 250gr bullet is probably a close to an Alaskan "standard" as their is. (I'm told that in fact, it's the .30/06 with a 180gr bullet.......) But facing an ill tempered bear, the .338 is more comforting. The .458Lott even more so..... But the '06 works....

FWIW; The Marlin .338MX fits this category very well (except for the currently only available bullet, the Hornady FTX- it's a little lightly constructed). I've got one, and won't be letting it go any time soon.

If the Marlin is not to your liking (now held by same entity as Remington) , the Browning BLR comes close. But no, they aren't as fast to operate as a slide (aka pump) action.

For really "down and dirty" hunting, such as our beaver swamp duck hunting the good old Rem M870 is unexcelled. I've been on many "far and away from home" waterfowl hunts and seen so many autos and even s/s or o/u's rendered inop., but a modestly maintained M870 just keeps on "chugging".

Too bad Remington doesn't see a "good thing" when they see it. Actually, it is "us", the consumer who wants Vanilla .308's and .30/06, so that's what we get. Because, after all, if you can't do it with an '06, you probably need a LOT bigger gun!

I can remember the first dead deer I ever saw. It was killed in 1971 with a Remington 760 in .30/06 and a 220gr Remington CorLokt. (while running- away)
What a mess! Bullet impacted the left femur (hind leg) near the pelvis (hip) and ranged foward and exited the right humerous (fore leg). The insides were a gut "stew". A really stinking mess. Only the back straps and opposite shoulder and ham were edible. The secondary projectile effect of the bone shards was truly devastating. The exit wound was large enough to put a fist in after over 30" of penetration.

BTW; the .25/06 would have been great, as well as the aforementioned 7mm08. .22-250, too!
 
I have 7600 in the 35 whelen that shoots moa easy, bring it back, if more people shoot em, maybe ammo will be easier to come by and cheaper
 
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