jimmyraythomason
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I have only handled one and I got the same impression (I didn't like it) but that didn't tell me anything about how it would perform.
Remmington 770 at dicks for $300 any good?
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Again, it is a question I do not even bother to ask myself when I can have a much nicer Weatherby Vanguard with accuracy guaranteed for about $100 more...
Every other week you can find a Savage combo (rifle + scope) for $379-399 at one of the big box stores....try to put that Savage next to a 770....
Heck even the Mossberg 4X4 is head and shoulder better (look and feel....it has fluted barrel, muzzle break, detachable magazine and adjustable trigger)
The Mossberg ATR is at the same level of the 770 but you an get one (combo) for about $250 at Wally World.....
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jimmyraythomason
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I own/have owned several Howas and Vanguards and find them to be among the best values in bolt action rifles. I also have a Stevens Model 200 that is awesomely accurate. I have no real personal experience with the Model 770 but would not opted for one if something else was available. The absolute best rifles I have ever owned was a Remington Model 700 ADL and a Remington Model 7. By the same experience,the absolute worst rifle I've ever owned was a Remington Model 700 BDL-DM. So based on my own experience a Remington Model 700 is the best and worst I've ever owned.
last I knew they were still production. selling a gun is easy, continuing to sell them year after year, is another story all together. also many people who have never hunted and just want a cheap '06 or 243 or something to shoot may be satisfied with them. but if your going to ask gun guys... well you'll get the opinion of someone who wants a rifle that performs and lasts.. the 770 is left wanting in that department.
on a side note Jimenez is still in business and I wouldn't carry one of those into the woods either
jimmyraythomason
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So how many years has the 770 been on the market?
jimmyraythomason
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I'm only playing devil's advocate. I only want to know how many who say they are cheap plastiv crap actually have any personal experience with them. By the way ,some people feel the same way about Glocks...just saying...
I understand completely... but when you disassemble a rifle and the plastic receiver cracks where it mounts... if you wanna do a test find out how many people. Love the 700 and hate the 770. It's not that people are bias but when you have enough people tell you they hate the gun they bought, then you tend to think they are crap. Especially when most of us hate to admit we don't like what we bought. Most of us will take up for a sustandard product just to save face. People don't seem to do that as much with the 770. I do dislike glocks, but that is personal preference. I'm more than willing to admit they are quality pieces. All our favorite companies put out some stuff were not proud of. The 770 is remingtons moment
Bonesinium
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Not the same comparrison. When you have a bunch of people saying Glocks are junk, and then another bunch of people saying Glocks are amazing, then it is probably at least a decent firearm.
Here you have a bunch of people saying the 770 is junk. And then you have....no one saying it is good, or even decent. No one. Do you not think there is a reason for that? It is probably because it is junk. A bad reputation based off of what you hear isn't always true. In this case, it probably is true...just saying...
At least four in this thread:
Personally, I wouldn't own one if it were free. I have enough experience to know a POS when I see one. I have never read a post by anyone who is unfortunate enough to have bought one that argues that we're all wrong, it's actually well made. Most of the posts from owners are defensive attempts to justify it along the lines of: "Well, it's accurate enough to hit a deer.".
Now if there's some magical redeeming quality to the 770 that is only revealed by ownership, please share it with us.
Apparently there is an adequate supply of beginners who don't know any better.
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jimmyraythomason
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Actually of those four only one owned a Model 770 personally. Two are hearsay about someone they know who owned one ane the other is a different model (allthough very similar). So,in truth,only one out of 2 pages of posts actually own one of the models in question. That is all I was trying to discern.
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JRT, formed my opinion when I worked in a gun shop that got stuck with 8 or so. We had to send two back as they would not chamber factory cartridges. 
Verified my opinion at the local rifle range where I witnessed several shoot patterns, not groups.
Verified my opinion at the local rifle range where I witnessed several shoot patterns, not groups.
jimmyraythomason
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Thanks Al. That is the type of opinion that I can respect. I don't put much stock in "I know this guy who had one" opinions.
JRT your kicking a dead horse dude. if you wanna go buy an appliance that everyone you know has said theirs caught fire, go ahead. many of us learn from others mistakes. also, just because someones name wasn't on the sales ticket, doesn't mean we don't have as much experience with them as the owners. I spent more time shooting and using my cousins than he did cause he was a new shooter and wanted me to try to figure out why it sucked so bad. and I spent several range days with other buddies and none of us were impressed EVEN THE OWNER. now if you wanna boil all that experience down to some guy at the coffee shop shops bro in law had one go ahead. but every poster on here has been honest about how it felt to them or shot or how their friends felt about the gun they bought.
jimmyraythomason
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EVERYONE? What I'm getting at is that only TWO have said THEIR's caught fire. The rest are merely parroting what they've heard.
Al Thompson
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Guys, JRT has an excellent point. Don't take it personally.
pacpiper
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I have only held one at Dick's and I'll be honest, it didn't feel that bad.
True, I'm not a 20+ year gun owner with a safe full of hard as a rock wooden, sturdy, steel everything, safe queens.
I only know the nowadays synthetic stock, plastic/polymer triggers, etc... so I have NOTHING to compare to.
I happened to go with the Marlin XL7 30-06 after I asked the same question you did and received approximately the same answers.
After all my research, it was narrowed down to the Savage and the Marlin but the ability to adjust the trigger with the Marlin won out. I did end up splurging for the stainless steel model for about a hundred more but $300 was the going price for a blued/Synthetic model.
If you've never been hunting and have never owned a bolt action rifle then I think the 770 would be a good piece because if you find out you hate it then you're not out much. Then again, if you get bit by the bug (which is the most likely scenario) then you'll probably want something with a smidge more reliability.....so go with the Marlin XL7.
True, I'm not a 20+ year gun owner with a safe full of hard as a rock wooden, sturdy, steel everything, safe queens.
I only know the nowadays synthetic stock, plastic/polymer triggers, etc... so I have NOTHING to compare to.
I happened to go with the Marlin XL7 30-06 after I asked the same question you did and received approximately the same answers.
After all my research, it was narrowed down to the Savage and the Marlin but the ability to adjust the trigger with the Marlin won out. I did end up splurging for the stainless steel model for about a hundred more but $300 was the going price for a blued/Synthetic model.
If you've never been hunting and have never owned a bolt action rifle then I think the 770 would be a good piece because if you find out you hate it then you're not out much. Then again, if you get bit by the bug (which is the most likely scenario) then you'll probably want something with a smidge more reliability.....so go with the Marlin XL7.
All four opinions were formed by the experience of owning a 770, whether first hand or not.
I'm not sure what your point is. No amount of arguing, no change of perspective, no subtle shift in POV is going to make a 770 a better rifle.
I hope you're not trying to imply that those of us who have criticized the 770 aren't qualified to do so because we haven't actually been foolish enough to buy one. I've assembled a couple of them and examined the "quality" in detail. They sat on the shelf for months, mostly because none of the salespeople could muster the nerve to present one to a customer. When the Marlin XL7 came out there was no way to sell them, so they ended up as door prizes at a duck dinner.
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jimmyraythomason
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I am saying that only those with FIRST HAND experience with the rifle in question are qualified to give any meaningful critiques of it,good or bad.
we started with "own" now we've moved to "first hand". Most everyone has given that they suck and stated a reason. That is for the reader to determine whether that reason is valid.
I don't take this personal. Please don't take my replies as personal. Personally I think JRT, or anyone else should be able to buy as many as they want. I'm just giving the opinion that they are well below what remington should hold themselves to, and frankly for that matter 700s aren't what remington once was either. Not saying I wouldn't buy one, I just probably would spend that same money and get a better rifle. Just opinion!
I don't take this personal. Please don't take my replies as personal. Personally I think JRT, or anyone else should be able to buy as many as they want. I'm just giving the opinion that they are well below what remington should hold themselves to, and frankly for that matter 700s aren't what remington once was either. Not saying I wouldn't buy one, I just probably would spend that same money and get a better rifle. Just opinion!
jimmyraythomason
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I didn't.
I don't want one at all. The rumor mill has had it's effect.
On this we agree 100%.
That's different. There's a big difference between "first hand experience" and "owning". I can only respond to what you actually write.
My opinion is based of first hand experience. I've handled them, I've assembled them, I've examined them in detail.
I don't own one, don't plan to and will continue to advise others not to.
Friend of mine bought one with out me knowing in 7mm mag. He brought it over to my place to sight in. As soon as he pulled it out my response was "my God, no, not that! It actually shot decent groups shooting 150 core-lokts at 100 yards. Only problem that when you tried to cycle the bolt to feed the next round it would stick horribly. I would say for one shot it was not that bad but I would not have it anywhere where something dangerous was bearing down on me and you had to get another round in the chamber. 
jimmyraythomason
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I don't know how it is in your world but here in mine we don't pass around our firearms. The only guns that I am thoroughly knowledgable about are MINE those that I own. These are the guns that I tear down,clean adjust,etc...I can count on one hand the number of guns belonging to other people that I have shot in my 57 years of life.
jimmyraythomason
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Your review of what you saw would have validity. I just don't want to read a review of the strengths and weaknesses of a ball team by some-one who never actually saw them play.
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