Report and Review: Beretta Cx4- Pistol Caliber Carbine in 45ACP

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This is the first review I've ever done for a firearm, so I'm going to try my best. I have no idea as to how I ought to do it.
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I bought this gun on Saturday, October 8 in a private sale at The Nation's Gun Show for $520. It was the result of research done by me, and input from a thread by fellow THR members.

At first glance, this gun looks pretty tactical and futuristic. It's all made up of polymer, it's got gentle lines, rails are available, and of course, it's done in that inexplicably threatening black like an AR. It's lightweight, smooth, and in my experience, it seems to fit naturally in my grasp. They are available in 29 inch and 32 inch configurations. I got the latter. You can increase the length of the stock by adding on recoil buffers and spacers. The gun isn't very tall; it's not even 10 vertical inches high from bottom of the stock to the summit of the front sight post.

The controls are great for one trained on the AR-15. For one who was brought up on the AK, as well as battle rifles, the controls are a bit of a pain. Fortunately, its light weight mean that even short college otaku like myself can manage to reload with our fore hand and leave the other on the grip. The design is fully reversible and can be used equally well from the left and right sides, so trigger hand reloads are still an easily possibility.

The sights are one area of this gun I don't really like. My issue is that they are aperture sights. This would work well on a weapon I intend to use at at least 150M, but for potential 4m engagement distances, they are not a good thing to have. My issue is that the holes are rather small. There are two setting for the aperture sights. The first one is intended for short range and is this one is fittingly labeled SR. The second one is intended for longer range shooting and is labeled LR. However, even the short range sight has a hole too small for my taste. Fortunately, the rear aperture sight and be folded down so that it resembles the rear sight of a Sig 550. This is my favorite configuration. The front sight is a post and it is fully adjustable for elevation and windage. It can be folded down too. All the sights are fully adjustable. The gun is optic friendly. There is a standard picatinny rail between the sight posts.

The trigger is my absolutely favorite feature. The pull is neither too light nor too hard. As always, Beretta does a great trigger job. I find that I can tell when the trigger is about to break and fire a round.

The Cx4 has its own magazines and does not accept other Beretta mags by itself. However, adaptor sleeves are available for various Beretta pistol magazines. Beretta does not sell very big magazines. The mag capacity I get with my 45 ACP model is 8 rounds +1 in the chamber.

Accuracy is good. I managed to get a 4 in dia group at 50 meters on my first mag. This gun is exactly what a carbine should be: an intermediate between a pistol and an intermediate caliber rifle.

How is reliability? I haven't had a single issue and I've shot bullets of 6 brands through it. Nothing gives this gun issues. I haven't even needed to clear a stovepipe yet.

The greatest thing about this gun is that it's flat out fun. I have only had a couple of shooting sessions with it, but I am thinking of keeping this gun for the rest of my life and making it a family heirloom. The gun goes up to my shoulder, my eyes align with the sights, and I naturally point at whatever I want to hit. I have no doubt that with frequent practice, I could win competitions with this gun. I have no idea as to why the poor sap sold me this gun in the first place. I think he wanted enough cash to get a custom AR.

As for handling, I think it's just about perfect. I still have to keep on refraining from trying to wrestle it around like an SVT and instead I only have to suggest to it where to go and it follows my body. My friends joke that I'm finally using a gun appropriate for someone like me. The only think it needs now is some anime decals and AK style open sights and I will call it perfect. I can't think of a better gun for HD either.

What else is there to say asides from: THIS! IS! AWESOME!
 
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Well done. I have the 9mm version and I agree that it makes one excellent range toy. And If I ever had to fight with it, It would work well for that also.

Nothing puts rounds on target faster than a PCC.
 
i find it hard to believe that you shot a 2inch group at 55ish yards with a 45ACP carbine. how many shots was the group and what kind of ammo did you use?

good review otherwise.
 
I made a typo. I think I got 4moa. With practice, I can get it down. I was using the 8 round magazines with Remmington FMJ and a 230 grain bullet weight.
 
If you think 2 inches at 50 yards is tuff with a 45 carbine, you need to improve your shooting..

My 9mm Beretta will do better than that with wolf steel case ammo.
 
Good to hear it went well... And good to hear you didn't get bogged down the incessant tactical dogma that thread spawned in the process. Now go shoot some more :D
 
If you think 2 inches at 50 yards is tuff with a 45 carbine, you need to improve your shooting..

My 9mm Beretta will do better than that with wolf steel case ammo.

LMAO! prove it! show me! most match pistol ammo is rated at 1.5" at 50 yards! lol! are you saying that you shoot better than match ammo with steel cased wolf? the most inconsistent ammo ever? this ain't the gun shop buddy. no one here is buying what you're selling. thanks for the laugh! :D:D:D:D

you sir are a laugh and a half.

here is what wolf will do at 30 feet from bags....

http://theboxotruth.com/docs/edu6.htm

50 yards is 150 feet so those groups would open up 5 times from about 1.5'' to 5.5". you must have a magic beretta. where'd did you get it? the fires of Mordor? forged from valyrian steel?

stuff like this is why i love the internet. i bet you can shoot a .5'' group at 200yards with wolf .223 too huh?

BTW, a 3 shot group is not a group so if that's what you're talking about then maybe i could see you cherry picking a 1" 3 shot group and thinking you're the bee's knees lol!
 
spoken like someone that jsut got called out. it's not that the rifle isn't capable of it. it's that the ammo isn't capable of it. i can shoot 1'' groups with my ar at 100'', but those are 5 shot groups with expensive ammo. put wolf in it, and the groups grow to 4.5-5.5'' inches.

what size (number of shots )are the groups you're shooting?
 
The Cx4 has its own magazines and does not accept other Beretta mags by itself.

The Cx4 in .45 ACP uses the same magazines as the Cougar 8045. Even the junky 8045 Pro-Mags I have work so-so (though I prefer to use the real Beretta 8045 mags).

The adapter sleeve is to allow older versions of the Cx4 to use the newer Px4 magazines. The Cx4 in 9mm and .40 exists in both pre-Px4 and post Px4 variants. The older models use pistol magazines from the older model pistols (like the 92 series) while the newer models use the appropriate caliber marked Px4 magazines.

The magazines that come with the Cx4 are stamped "Cx4", but this is just branding. My Cx4's magazines work flawlessly in my Cougar 8045, for instance.
 
So what exactly is the point of whining about OP's accuracy? That doesn't seem like a very constructive venture to me.



At the LGS, every now and then I'll rent out their CX4, and Find it to be a great little carbine, but they are using the 9mm version with magazines for the 92 series. Hopefully Beretta is a aware of the .45 magazine capacity issue and corrects it in later versions. A Beretta/Glock partnership maybe?:evil:
 
i would say accuracy is an important feature of a review, many would agree with me.

if i'm running a gun magazine and i say x rifle can shoot a .25" group you should hope i'm not a fibber.

2" at 55yards sounds a little too good to believe for me unless match ammo was in play.
 
Good on ya mortablunt, glad you like it so well, and yes with a little practice (and possibly a scope) you to could get it down to 2" @ 50 yrds. I've seen it done with the cheaper sub2000 in 9mm.
 
"spoken like someone that jsut got called out. it's not that the rifle isn't capable of it. it's that the ammo isn't capable of it. i can shoot 1'' groups with my ar at 100'', but those are 5 shot groups with expensive ammo. put wolf in it, and the groups grow to 4.5-5.5'' inches.

what size (number of shots )are the groups you're shooting?" posted by againstthagrane

you do realize that the article you linked to was about accuracy out of a pistol, not a carbine. groups tend to tighten up when you use a carbine instead of a pistol. Just sayin.
 
First of all, to the OP. I'm not calling you a liar I would just like know the ammo and number of shots in the 2" group. Honestly, if it's that accurate I would be interested in a cx4. I think it's a fair question to bring up to someone reviewing a gun. Maybe I was a bit crass in the way I brought it up, but I'm a bit skeptical.

Yes I know a carbine would be more accurate than a pistol, but the ammo is the limiting factor, not the platform it's being fired from. For example shooting wolf steel cased out of even a $4000 benchrest rifle with a scope isn't going to magically become 1" MOA ammo. Match ammo is made to very exacting standards and the price tag shows the attention to detail. So if the guy in this thread who claims he can shoot less than a 2" 5 shot group at 50yards with wolf steel case can back it up with something more than outlandish claims I'd be glad to eat crow.
 
so I'll take my cx4 out this weekend and shoot you a crow.

I'd be glad to mail it to you. Do you prefer Cajun or BBQ.

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so I'll take my cx4 out this weekend and shoot you a crow.

I'd be glad to mail it to you. Do you prefer Cajun or BBQ.

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1" group with wolf steel 9mm @50yards? :scrutiny:

you're delusional
 
without the number of shots that these so called phantom groups are comprised of, all of these claims are pretty arbitrary.
 
Springfield 1911 lower, with a Nikon BTR scope, using Hornady self defense ammo. It's my pig gun... or supposed to be my pig gun, except I've yet to find a pig while using it... With cheap off the shelf ammo, the groups open up a bit, but it's still pretty darn accurate.
 
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