rifle cleaning supplies?

[Axis II]

I am getting ready to purchase a new cleaning rod, jags, etc and not really sure what to get. When looking at Midwayusa.com i see 17-20cal, 22-26cal, 8/32 threads, 5/4- threads, plastic vs brass jags, copper vs nylon brushes. I honestly don't know what to buy so looking for some guidance. This will be used for everything from 223rem-50cal muzzleloader. Right now i'm looking at Tipton carbon fiber rods because i think it would be safer for the barrel?

Also whats the difference between these two brass jags? I notice one has more teeth and is long and the other is not.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/147218/montana-x-treme-patch-grabber-rifle-cleaning-jag-brass

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1903154070/tipton-rifle-cleaning-jag-brass


Thank you and Merry Christmas!

 

[someguy2800]

The 17-20 cal cleaning rods are just smaller diameter, a standard rod will not fit down the bore. Just get a standard 1 piece 22+ caliber rod, as long as you keep it clean and use it correctly its not going to do your bore any harm. I use the same steel 1 pc rod on everything from 223 to 45-70. An aluminum shotgun rod works nice on a muzzle loader. I like brass jags and usually get them one size smaller than advertised so I can use a larger patch on them. Either of those jag styles will work. I believe the montana jag you linked is meant to be able to wrap a patch around it as well as being able to just pierce one on the end. The ones I have are all like the tipton one. The best bore cleaner I have ever used is gunslick foaming bore cleaner.

 

[Axis II]

The 17-20 cal cleaning rods are just smaller diameter, a standard rod will not fit down the bore. Just get a standard 1 piece 22+ caliber rod, as long as you keep it clean and use it correctly its not going to do your bore any harm. I use the same steel 1 pc rod on everything from 223 to 45-70. An aluminum shotgun rod works nice on a muzzle loader. I like brass jags and usually get them one size smaller than advertised so I can use a larger patch on them. Either of those jag styles will work. I believe the montana jag you linked is meant to be able to wrap a patch around it as well as being able to just pierce one on the end. The ones I have are all like the tipton one. The best bore cleaner I have ever used is gunslick foaming bore cleaner.

Thanks. When i seen the 22cal rod i figured a 22cal barrel and 22cal rod the rod might be too tight or exact bore diameter. Right now i have a huge bag of cotton patches so would you recommend a 20cal jag? I usually use the shotgun rod on the muzzleloader but the ones i keep finding you have to screw an adapter onto it and its knurled and scraped the barrel but i guess that doesn't matter on a muzzy.

 

[ColtPythonElite]

Just cut your patches to fit a .22 jag.... I never buy patches. I keep a ziplock bag of old t shirt or flannel sheet material in my kit and cut my own.

 

[someguy2800]

A 20 caliber jag will not fit on a 22 caliber rod because the threads are smaller. I have a 22 caliber jag that I ground down the diameter a bit to use a larger patch. I don't like using the little bitty patches you would normally use on a 22. I use 1" square cotton patches on everything.

 

[Axis II]

A 20 caliber jag will not fit on a 22 caliber rod because the threads are smaller. I have a 22 caliber jag that I ground down the diameter a bit to use a larger patch. I don't like using the little bitty patches you would normally use on a 22. I use 1" square cotton patches on everything.

yep these are larger "trim to fit" cotton patches. I think they get most the crud out rather than push it around. I also cut old t shirt like coltpython but I noticed with the pull through path hoop thingy it can sometimes be a mother you know what getting them through the barrel. Just want to make sure I'm getting the right stuff.

 

[someguy2800]

Whatever combination of stuff works for you and gives you a tight fit. For example the patches I have are really thick so to clean my 25-06 I use a 22 caliber jag with a big patch on it. For 270 I use a 25 caliber jag, 308 I use 2 patches. 444 marlin I use a 357 jag with 2 patches on it. The only barrels that I use a brush on are ones that shoot cast lead.

 

[taliv]

since no one else has mentioned it...

for a precision barrel, use a rod that is the right diameter. don't use a rod that is too small, and obviously a rod that is too large won't fit.
if you want to clean your AK and a muzzleloader with the same rod, i don't guess it matters all that much.

if there's something that makes one jag better than another, i don't know what it is. i'd just get the normal spear point ones, but i've used the others too and they're fine.

the tipton rods are good.

merry Christmas

 

[Skylerbone]

Make good and sure your rods are long enough! Some of my older .22s are longer than certain rods I have and it’s no fun finding out when the patch is in the barrel.

1-piece Pro Shot rods work well for me, I have their segmented heavy duty brass rod for shotguns, and a T/C 1-piece aluminum range rod with built-in T-handle for muzzleloader.

I use pierce jags with correct patch size and for some a nylon bristle brush, looking hard at cleaning pellets though.