rude range...would you return?

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so I went to tampa this weekend to go shooting w/ my dad...been to this range multiple times and never had a problem.

so we get to the range and there were 2-3 people mulling around the store we go up to the counter, no one says a thing to us for literally 10 minutes (there are 2-3 desk workers just standing there blankly.) finally a guy comes up to us and says

"have you been helped?'

"nope..."

"oh well im here to help"

so we get our ammo and such and go to the range. RO asks us if we've been here, etc. we say yes and then he says

"im a stickler for you guys with autos to pick up your own shells make sure you do."

"okay"

so we leave and my dad makes a comment to me about for what they charge they should sweep up their own shells....after we swept our shells up. and the RO comes over to us as we go out the door saying "i told you gentlemen to sweep your shells, im being nice about it but next time i wont"

we were flabergasted...told him we cleaned up, and he makes the comment "make sure it doesnt happen again"

now i've been coming to this range for about 2 years...

would you guys return? after being treated like dirt im thinking we wont go back...even though its close and convient and the 2nd closest range is about 20 minutes further....

Chad
 
I WOULD HAVE HAD TO SAY SHOW ME WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE WE SWEPT OUR SHELLS UP, MAYBE HE WAS LOOKING AT WRONG LANE OR SOMETHING. wOULD HAVE STRAIGHTENED IT OUT ON THE SPOT.
 
I would probably drive the extra 20 minutes myself, and then be sure to tell the manager why you only use the first range as a LAST resort.

Or chalk it up to someone having a bad day and give em one more go, then if the same thing happens, leave to never return.

I would kill to have TWO ranges that close to my home, the closest range for me is 45 miles and the 2nd closest is 60
 
there were quite a few others shooting .45 lane next to us, im sure we didnt get EVERY single shell...but we do keep tidy. and now that you mention it I have not seen the RO before....however the manager is the guy who finally helped us.

Chad
 
You might run into a jerk once at any range. I would have asked to be shown what I did wrong, adding "...So I'll understand how to do it right next time." He might have had a long run of jerks walking out and leaving a mess and was dumping his frustrations on you without thinking. Not a nice trait, but not unknown.

The range we frequent gets superbusy on weekends, about the only time Hubby and I can attend together; even being well-known to the staff and having memberships, we often have to wait 10 minutes or more to get signed in for the next available lane!
Sweeping up brass is not a big deal there; I usually do so before and after but a lot of customers just leave it. The staff try to keep up, but on busy days I think the theory is that when the customers are bothered enough by it, they'll sweep it. Sounds cold but it actually works. (This may be more proof that what they say about Hoosiers is true).

Give the range another chance -- 20 minutes closer means an extra 40 minutes of shooting time!

--Herself
 
Get Thrown Out

What you need to do is.......find out if they have a rule against rapid fire. If they do, go back to the range and shoot for 10-15 minutes, then.....load about three mags and fire as fast as you can....drop the mag....reload.....rapid fire, again. Do that until they throw you out.....You'll have more satisfaction when it comes to getting chewed out. :D
 
I'd give it one more chance... maybe talk to the owner. Then again I left my local range after they started implementing ridiculous rules like, "you have to bring a gun if you want to rent one of ours". At the very least bring it to someone's attention so maybe the higher ups will straighten this guy out.
 
yup, that'll work

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"Get Thrown Out
What you need to do is.......find out if they have a rule against rapid fire. If they do, go back to the range and shoot for 10-15 minutes, then.....load about three mags and fire as fast as you can....drop the mag....reload.....rapid fire, again. Do that until they throw you out.....You'll have more satisfaction when it comes to getting chewed out. "


Then you can drive that extra 40 minutes (20 each way) every time from now on...unless maybe the poster suggesting this will drive you...

Sheesh, gotta wonder sometimes...:rolleyes:
 
Not rude, but too many new rules

There is only one public range in my county and it never was my first choice, but these days, it's the only range within 30 miles.

Everytime I go there these days there are more and more rules. The latest one really ticked me off, get this. You can not bring your own ammo anymore. You must purchase it from the range, no exceptions. There is no more "rapid fire" allowed. There must be 1-2 seconds between shots. So much for double-tap practice. You can no longer draw from a holster and fire your gun. The list is much longer, but you can see that this place is turning into a "no fun allowed zone" IMO.

I may start going to the range in the next county. I have more that enough rules to follow on the job. I don't need to be resticted like a moron while I enjoy my hobby.
 
Being a reloader I would just open my bag and show him all the empty cases and ask him exactly what was he talking about. I would speak to the manager before I left and complain. If you want my money then the service should be to my liking.
 
There are jerks at every range, even private ones like I go to. I can handle the guys that folks euphemistically refer to as <> (heck - I am one). What I can't handle are range NAZI's. :fire:

Like the time I was filing down the front sights on a single action revolver. The cylinder was out and on the bench in front of me while I filed on the sight. My wife and I were the only people on the plinking range. She went down range just as a guy from the adjoining range walked by. He started yelling Ma'am! MA'AM! You can't go down range while someone is handling a gun. She ignored him. I held the revolver up and showed him no cylinder, even said "look, no cylinder".

More yelling: Ma'am! MA'AM! You can't go down range while someone is handling a gun. :rolleyes: I told him to mind his own freaking business and take his inability to judge the circumstances and shove them up where the sun don't shine.

Some people take the rules just too darned seriously. Circumstances vary. Humans can judge when they do. Robots can't. :banghead:

Art's Grammaw was here. - pax
 
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Werewolf said:
Some people take the rules just too darned seriously. Circumstances vary. Humans can judge when they do. Robots can't. :banghead:
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What part of "no handling" is hard to understand? The RO was doing his job!.
 
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Lion In Winter said:
What part of "no handling" is hard to understand? The RO was doing his job!.
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I agree 100%

While Common sense is always important, when it comes to a firing line, exceptions can not be made. While some might think they have a good reason why they are right or should be the exception, there are many many valid reasons why you are not.

I have no idea what it takes to run many businesses, and 99% of people who come to the range have no idea what it takes to run one of those....they think they do though.

Never handle a firearm while people are down range. No matter what. Even if it is in a 1000 pieces, even if it isnt real. It is not about "there is no way it could fire" it is about good and bad habbits, because mistakes happen. It is about others who may not know any better seeing it and thinking it is OK, and perhaps they are not as gifted at never making a mistake as you. It is about simple safety, so no one dies of complications of a mistake.
 
It's also possible the guy is just an old fashioned idiot... One day at the range with a single-shot 16ga. I got chewed out for not cleaning up my spent shells...

The RO pointed at a pile of spent 12ga... :banghead:
 
Thain said:
It's also possible the guy is just an old fashioned idiot... One day at the range with a single-shot 16ga. I got chewed out for not cleaning up my spent shells...

The RO pointed at a pile of spent 12ga... :banghead:
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Just curious, how does one allow himself to be "chewed out"? Particularly so when as stated here, being in the right? Although now thinking about it I recall a nun or two when I was in grade school that did this to me..but only for a while...

What posture and facial expression are appropriate? Are there certain words that need to be spoken?
 
The first and last time I went to a commercial range the RO wouldn't let me police up my reloadable brass. They want to sweep it up and sell it.
That and their general attitude convinced me that wasn't a place I wanted to shoot.
 
The Range Master at Chabot was an egotistical JERK who yelled at me. I calmly took it and then yelled back, pointing out his error and embarassing him in the presence of his subordinate range masters. He fumbled an apology and I brushed him off. He deserved every bit of it. I never went back either.
 
The range I go to isn't to bad. Main dislikes are that you can't bring in your own reloaded ammo, something that put a curb in my plans to reload. Besides that their set up does not easily lend itself to collect your brass if you wanted to reload. That and their ammo is on the expensive side. But to just go shoot isn't bad, 8.95 if you buy ten bucks worth of ammo, 13.95 if you bring your own ammo for as long as you want to stay out there.

All in all I would say give it another chance and take it up with managment considering you've been going there awhile.
 
I'm startin' to really love my local range after reading this!

They won't allow non-brass casings (though some revolver users can get a waiver if they police their non-brass), but they're okay with users picking up their own brass. Since they do sell the brass that's left, it's strictly honor system...plus an excellent CCTV system for the RO!

It does have a fetaure I have not seen elsewhere, even at the big range in Plano: floor-to-ceiling bulletproof partitions between each position! One too many novice shooters had trouble with "downrange" so the boss decided to not push his luck.

A decent range is a treasure. (Especially an indoor one). It's worth trying to de-escalate the occasional jerk to be able to shoot someplace you (otherwise) enjoy.

--H
 
I've run into a few range monkey gun-god types like that before. The type that wears their new S&W 500 (or Desert Eagle) just so they can show off to newbies and be a badass. The kind that hands out pointers left and right, and ALWAYS reminds you to point down range when your gun is out of battery with the slide off and the barrel in your hand. Yeah, I think we all know THAT guy!:cuss:

I just smile, behind that 500S&W is a little guy who is afraid he'll get b!tch slapped if he takes it off. I think those guy's have guns for different reasons than most of us. (to keep from getting slapped by me :D )
 
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