s&w 22a or beretta neos?

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I bought a 22A when they first came out. Since then, it's taught countless people the joys of shooting, and has made cheap practice for me. The grip angle isn't as severe as either the Ruger, Browning, or Beretta.

However my 22A (standard aluminum frame, not the steel one), has reached it's end of life. It's had well over 60,000 rounds through it.

The frame, where the slide rides, has peened and gouged beyond repair. If I knew this would occur, I would've shelled out some more money for the steel version, if it's still available.

The mag release is in a funky place. The standard rubber grips feel great, and have held up better than the rest of the pistol.

The recoil spring should be replaced frequently, ~3000 rounds. The 22A is very susceptible to failure to load/extract if the spring tension drops slightly. This can be offset by using higher powered ammo, but even then the spring should be replaced after a while.

Also, the little plastic buffer that holds the guide rod in place will go dead within 1500 rounds. You can extend the life slightly by reversing it every cleaning. However, it gets chewed up rather quickly. Luckily, S&W should mail you free replacements if you send them unhappy emails.

With that said, after letting it sit for over a year, and after replacing the spring and buffer, the gun still jams. Every shot. With every type of ammo in my possession. It's ready to be retired forever. IIRC, when it was first introduced, I payed $179 new. It was a great investment, though some of the other pistols mentioned will hold up better in the long run.

I have no experience with the neos.
 
Hey agony, why don't you call s&w and send it in? My experience with their customer service has been excellent in the past. At the very least they pay shipping so you'll be out nothing for trying.
 
When I was looking at .22 pistols, I tried a 22A and a couple of MKII's. The 22A felt and fired (for me) better than the MKII's. I bought the 22A and have not been disappointed in the pistol. Mine doesn't drive tacks at 50 yards, because the shooter can't drive tacks with any pistol at 50 yards, but it cetainly doesn't embarrass me on the range. My 22A-1 was about $175 new and could well be one of the best pistols for the price. I've since bought a MKIII678H and a Single Six. The hard choice when going to the range is which one do I fire first.

In my opinion:
Pros: Price, accuracy, rail for added sights, feel, balance and weight. Easy to stip for cleaning. Great for "loaning" to newbies who are firing loudenboomers the first time out and are getting the flinches from the recoil. Good enough that it doesn't stay at home when and let the "better" pistols have all the fun.
Cons: Open sights on the 5.5" barrel are a bit tough for me to see through my bifocals (a drop of testor's orange solved that). A bit picky on ammo, but once you find the right ammo, accuracy and function are great.

If you are looking for a .22 semiauto in the ~$200 price range and the 22A feels good, then you won't be making a mistake.

My problem is that I only need one more pistol, the next one...
 
Agony, mine came with two extra recoil buffers in the box. Unfortunately, I didn't notice the little brown envelope until after I'd ordered a half-dozen ($0.54/ea). Bought a couple of recoil springs and a replacement rod, just to have them. Haven't noticed any problems with failure at 1500 rounds with these parts. Replaced the buffer at about 2500 rounds.
 
Hey agony, why don't you call s&w and send it in? My experience with their customer service has been excellent in the past. At the very least they pay shipping so you'll be out nothing for trying.

You know, I never really thought about it. Always a hassle shipping pistols. I think I'll give it a try and send her in, if I ever get off my lazy butt.
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You know, I never really thought about it. Always a hassle shipping pistols. I think I'll give it a try and send her in, if I ever get off my lazy butt.
Well let us know if you try it, I'd be eager to hear how they do. Since they send a shipping label it takes a lot of the hassle out of it for me heh.
 
Soybomb - what is the mag safety? send me details at [email protected].

I have a 22a and all I have done is polish the throat, and the mold marks on the slide. Over 2k rnds thrrough it since May 07. Had a FTF problem, but the slide follower was broken- replaced at N/C by S&W. Mine loves Federal 550 bulk or even better the federal eagle 500.

Put a wallyworld reddot on it and has been a charmer- many
others have shot it and liked it. Several have gone out and bought one!
 
Having talked with various shop owners and gunsmiths.. I would pick the Neos every time, if it was choice between the two. I'm told that far more 22as come back in service than Neos. Also the Neos has the advantage of being so simply modular. Barrel and parts interchangeability couldn't be easier.

Also, I'm about to write up a separate thread for this.. but I have just completed a Neos educational and complete action job guide. You can see that here. I welcome any questions or comments.
http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=320915 -Neos guide
 
mobjacker take off the grips and look at the bottom of the magazine opening. You'll see the metal rod the magazine pushes up on to enable the gun to fire. I removed that annoying features by simply removing the rod. It is removing a safety device, consult a gun smith, bullets hurt, etc.
 
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