Screw CT!

[Hatterasguy]

I'm working on getting my pistol permit and I just want to rant a bit.

First I have to take a damn NRA class, fine thats OK. It only cost me $125 and took the better part of a Sunday. Basic BS like don't point the gun at your head kind of stuff.

But what pisses me off is the application. First I need 3 letters of recomendation, than I need to let them run a backround check, medical history check, finger print me, and probably call my neighbors as they did with my friend.

Oh it gets better! I need a resume of my work, school, and medical history.

What part of the 2nd amendment do these morons not understand? This seems like a TOTAL invasion of my privacy. All because I want to own a handgun, which is my )(&()&())( right as a US citizen.

Plus its going to cost like $300 and take 4 months, ***! I live in a freaken communist state, freedom whats that not in CT!

Screw this crap. As my friend who is a LT in the Marines said, its about time everyone rose up against these BS laws. Freedom is being able to go down to the local gun store and buying a pistol, this is not freedom.

 

[GunsAmerica Fan]

This is why I moved to Florida. I thought about moving to New Haven and said the hell with this. We are in big trouble as a country I wish there was an easy answer.

You know, before this crazy boom in permits, these NRA courses were $40. That is what I paid when I moved to Florida in 05. People are taking advantage of their NRA certifications, but supply and demand you know, we're all capitalists.

I have an office in NY and can't carry there, drives me crazy, but it's such a police state that they have people believing that they live in safety. I really considered moving to CT but I just couldn't, even though it is much better for me to be close to NY. Really, move to Florida. It is a pleasant state to live, real estate is way way down, and you can drive a rear wheel drive sports car or truck 365 days a year. You couldn't live in a place with more gun freedom I don't think.

 

[mptrimshop]

come to Illinois....... at least ya can try to CC there

 

[ctbullseye]

What town is asking for this BS?

 

[N003k]

Yea...really...sounds like more then I've seen on the forums locally....

 

[Aran]

Pennsylvania is a wise alternative.

 

[SSN Vet]

VT, NH and ME are the free New England states

the peoples republics of CT and MA are lost forever

the mob runs RI, so freedom is only for those who are in the family.

Come on up to ME.... just don't start whining when you find out the towns not going to come and pick up your stinkin' trash for you.

 

[routine]

Hi....

I've been lurking here on and off for a while. Saw your post, thought I'd share my experience.

CT is not terrible -- certainly not the best, but not the worst either.

Do not fill out the medical history form. You should fill this form only if you have been admitted in the hospital for psych reasons. None of my friends or I filled this form out. Also, we didn't have to submit resumes. 3 letters of recommendation, yes -- and notarized. Depending on the town, the PD might call your friends.

You should have your temp permit in about 2 months give or take -- unless you're in Bridgeport or Meriden or something; then you might not get it at all. I've heard stories.

 

[Buster_NW]

And I thought I had a gripe in WA for getting fingerprinted and waiting a month. I know it doesn't help at this point, but write a letter to your state reps.

 

[distra]

What are you talking about? Which town are you trying to get a temp permit from? Neither my wife or I did all that, the hardest part was meeting up with Barney Fife (our local PD) to get finger printed. There are no reference letters required for the state permit. We had our permits within 4 weeks. Once it's done it's done not that big of deal really. If you want a long gun you don't need to go through the permit process. It is a PITA especially since the state raised the permit fees to $70 (from $35 when I got mine).

 

[M2 Carbine]

Screw CT!

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I'm working on getting my pistol permit and I just want to rant a bit.

First I have to take a damn NRA class, fine thats OK. It only cost me $125 and took the better part of a Sunday. Basic BS like don't point the gun at your head kind of stuff.

But what pisses me off is the application. First I need 3 letters of recomendation, than I need to let them run a backround check, medical history check, finger print me, and probably call my neighbors as they did with my friend.

Oh it gets better! I need a resume of my work, school, and medical history.

What part of the 2nd amendment do these morons not understand? This seems like a TOTAL invasion of my privacy. All because I want to own a handgun, which is my )(&()&())( right as a US citizen.

Plus its going to cost like $300 and take 4 months, ***! I live in a freaken communist state, freedom whats that not in CT!

Screw this crap. As my friend who is a LT in the Marines said, its about time everyone rose up against these BS laws. Freedom is being able to go down to the local gun store and buying a pistol, this is not freedom.

I have to tell you, that is the most disgusting, obscene thing I have read in a long time.
I can't hardly believe that a US citizen has to put up with something like that.
I thought it was bad in in some states but I did not know that such a total disregard of a citizen's rights actually happened.
I can't even write here what I think should happen to politicians that signed on to something like that.


It seems all the more terrible that something like this is going on in our country when the fact is,
tomorrow morning I can make a cup of Coffee and drive to the little gun store two minutes from home. If I already know which pistol I want, I can fill out the yellow sheet as I sip my Coffee. Then I can write the store a check and have the pistol in my hands and be back home before I finish my Coffee.
Since I have a CHL the store doesn't even have to call in a NICS check.


If you don't mind I'm going to copy your post and use it as an example of just how the people's rights have been taken away in some states.
No wonder some states are called, "The People's Republic of ...............".

 

[bob.a]

I'd do it in a minute. Here in Maryland (the Free State) I have zero chance of getting a carry permit, as I'm not rich, politically connected or a cash business owner.

Of course, all the BS doesn't make it palatable, but at least for some people it's possible. You don't have it so great, but you have it a lot better than I do.

 

[distra]

Since I have a CHL the store doesn't even have to call in a NICS check.

So what is the CHL permit process like in Texas? My understanding is it not that much different. You need to take and pass a gun safety class, fill out the application, get finger printed, allow access to your records and pay. Not that much different really. Don't forget in CT you are applying for a carry permit. The law just states you must have a carry permit to transport or purchase a handgun in CT. You can still own one you brought in from out of state when you move, just can not transport it out of your house to the range or other without a carry permit.

 

[janobles14]

dude just move to the south...and stay out of the big cities

 

[ronbuick]

The ironic part is that a lot of those states make a lot of weapons for us folks here in the states and abroad, go figure.

Ron

 

[Hammerhead6814]

Ugh. By those standards what we USED to have here in MO was tame. All we had to do was check in with the Sheriff. A quick "Hey I'm buying a handgun" and usually the response was "okay".

But hey, at least you don't live in CA.

 

[SteveCase]

Hey come on up here to MA where cops can drawn down on you and steal both your license and your firearm. I took my CCW permit class at the Smith and Wesson shooting center for 100 bucks. where did you take yours? at least you guys have shall issue instead of may like we have up here in MA oh and you can have hicap unlike MA and oh yea you dont have a AG pistol list or the other list that makes pre 1998 used glocks like 800 dollars. So stop complaining, jump threw the hoops get the license and proceed to vote out the SOBs. hey atleast DODD left on his own accord. kinda hoping he would be removed, would have made it much more of a specticul

 

[M2 Carbine]

allow access to your records and pay.

No such thing.
Local and FBI criminal check though. That's why the gun dealer doesn't have to do a NICS check if the buyer has a concealed carry license (CHL).

So what is the CHL permit process like in Texas?

CHL=concealed carry license.
Unlicensed (no CHL) carry of a loaded handgun or long gun in a vehicle is OK.

No kind of "permits" to buy a gun, ammo, etc. We can do face to face gun sales, any time, by just swapping the money and gun.
The state makes gun laws, not the local governments, Sheriffs, etc. The CHL is issued by the state.

The whole concealed carry license (CHL) requirement, including shooting qualification, takes only one day.
Class covers safety, laws, etc. Mostly common sense, but important gun laws also. You would have to be asleep not to pass.
The class is given by local, state approved instructors. The cost, set by the instructors, is what the traffic will bare, $65 to $130.
Finger prints and passport photo is taken for the license.
$140 is paid to the state for the first CHL.

Shooting qualification is 50 timed rounds,
from 1 shot in 2 seconds at 3 yards,
to 5 shots in 15 seconds at 15 yards.
250 points total. 174 points to pass.

In other words, it takes one day and about $250 to get a concealed carry license in Texas. Texas calls it a CHL and it looks almost like the TX driver's license.

If you buy a gun from a FFL dealer he has to call for the NICS check, unless the buyer has a CHL. Then no call is necessary. Just fill out the yellow sheet and walk out with the gun.

So, like I said, with the CHL I can be back home with a gun before I finish my Coffee. Without a CHL I'd probably finish my Coffee while the dealer calls the Feds.


A couple weeks ago, just for fun, I ran a girl through the shooting qualification. It was the SECOND DAY that the girl had shot a gun. She shot a 242/250 (but she is a natural).

Just for the heck of it, one time I shot the CHL qualification course, by the book, with my eyes closed and passed.


The only PITA is there are so many CHL applications that it's taking 4 months for the state to get the license out.
In the meantime a loaded handgun can be carried in the car.



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[dec41971]

I'm working on getting my pistol permit and I just want to rant a bit.

First I have to take a damn NRA class, fine thats OK. It only cost me $125 and took the better part of a Sunday. Basic BS like don't point the gun at your head kind of stuff.

But what pisses me off is the application. First I need 3 letters of recomendation, than I need to let them run a backround check, medical history check, finger print me, and probably call my neighbors as they did with my friend.

Oh it gets better! I need a resume of my work, school, and medical history.

What part of the 2nd amendment do these morons not understand? This seems like a TOTAL invasion of my privacy. All because I want to own a handgun, which is my )(&()&())( right as a US citizen.

Plus its going to cost like $300 and take 4 months, ***! I live in a freaken communist state, freedom whats that not in CT!

Screw this crap. As my friend who is a LT in the Marines said, its about time everyone rose up against these BS laws. Freedom is being able to go down to the local gun store and buying a pistol, this is not freedom.

Vote out the idiots who are anti-2A. NJ is same way. In addition to passing all the background checks (ok- good thing), you freaking need a license to buy leave alone CC a pistol. Wow! And yup, they require resumes and vouching by friends of good standing. How is that a right? And requiring resumes sounds like prime grounds for them to discriminate against those with resumes they don't think pass their elitist muster. So much for progress! Its a constitutional right for christ's sake; It will not change unless you guys stand up to them. Don't politicize it as republican\Democrat issue, I think that's where most pro-2A folks go wrong. There are plenty of pro-@A folks in both parties and politicizing it, just guarantees you loose any pro-2A Democrat votes you need so badly.

 

[NinjaFeint]

No such thing.
Local and FBI criminal check though. That's why the gun dealer doesn't have to do a NICS check if the buyer has a concealed carry license (CHL).


CHL=concealed carry license.
Unlicensed (no CHL) carry of a loaded handgun or long gun in a vehicle is OK.

No kind of "permits" to buy a gun, ammo, etc. We can do face to face gun sales, any time, by just swapping the money and gun.
The state makes gun laws, not the local governments, Sheriffs, etc. The CHL is issued by the state.

The whole concealed carry license (CHL) requirement, including shooting qualification, takes only one day.
Class covers safety, laws, etc. Mostly common sense, but important gun laws also. You would have to be asleep not to pass.
The class is given by local, state approved instructors. The cost, set by the instructors, is what the traffic will bare, $65 to $130.
Finger prints and passport photo is taken for the license.
$140 is paid to the state for the first CHL.

Shooting qualification is 50 timed rounds,
from 1 shot in 2 seconds at 3 yards,
to 5 shots in 15 seconds at 15 yards.
250 points total. 174 points to pass.

In other words, it takes one day and about $250 to get a concealed carry license in Texas. Texas calls it a CHL and it looks almost like the TX driver's license.

If you buy a gun from a FFL dealer he has to call for the NICS check, unless the buyer has a CHL. Then no call is necessary. Just fill out the yellow sheet and walk out with the gun.

So, like I said, with the CHL I can be back home with a gun before I finish my Coffee. Without a CHL I'd probably finish my Coffee while the dealer calls the Feds.


A couple weeks ago, just for fun, I ran a girl through the shooting qualification. It was the SECOND DAY that the girl had shot a gun. She shot a 242/250 (but she is a natural).

Just for the heck of it, one time I shot the CHL qualification course, by the book, with my eyes closed and passed.


The only PITA is there are so many CHL applications that it's taking 4 months for the state to get the license out.
In the meantime a loaded handgun can be carried in the car.



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Not picking on anyone just quoting you for the comparison. I have a CCW in CT (07/09 issued) and here is what it took. I know the rates have been raised but all told it cost me 160ish dollars including my CCW course.

1. I took the NRA course--No issue here as I think a safety course is not a bad thing
2. I filled out the app--Took 5 minutes and no medical or criminal history needed as I have neither been institutionalized against my will or arrested
3. Brought to local PD and was fingerprinted--Took half an hour because they don't do appointments just have set days of the week for it
4. Waited about 3 weeks for a letter in the mail and when I got it picked up my temporary permit--Picking up the permit took 5 minutes, brought my letter to the PD and then they gave me the permit
5. Brought Temp permit to state and received CCW--Took 20 minutes because folks don't understand that they need to pass a metal detector to get in the public safety headquarters for the state

My brother had much the same process but he had to get the three letters for the local permit. He used a form letter and had three friends sign it. He got his temp permit in 3 days.

Once you receive the permit you may purchase and carry any pistol for sale in CT with no waiting period. You are also exempt from any waiting period on long guns. They have to call in or use a computer system to verify the license is active when making a purchase, my last purchase took 5 minutes from selection to cash out.

I really did not think the process was that bad. Please do not compare CT to MA as we can still purchase full capacity firearms, Glocks and other MA banned products.

 

[NavyLCDR]

This is why I moved to Florida. You couldn't live in a place with more gun freedom I don't think.

Now this right here is a problem, as I see it. Let's look at gun "freedom" in Florida. If you want to walk around town and have a gun for your self protection, there is only one way to do so in Florida. You have to PAY for training, and then PAY the state for a license to carry that gun. After you have PAID your fees and gotten PERMISSION from the state, then you can only carry you gun concealed.

And, if I don't want to PAY the state for PERMISSION to carry the gun, but I want to buy a handgun from a dealer, I have to wait three days and when I leave the store the gun has to be unloaded and in a case. What if someone can barely scrape up enough money for the gun and ammo and can't afford to pay the state fees?!? I guess the poor fellow is just out of luck since he can't pay the price for his freedom.

And we call that FREEDOM?

The problem is that when we, in America, get so used to the government infringing upon our rights, that when we have a state that infringes upon our rights just a little bit, not as bad as others, we call that FREEDOM?

FREEDOM is a state like Vermont. Walk in to the gun store, fill out a piece of paper, a phone call is made, walk out with the gun in less than 1/2 hour, load that gun up, wear it on my hip for everyone to see, or conceal it... and the state has no concern with it whatsoever and has no interest in TAXING and LICENSING a right and therefore turning it into a privlege! THAT IS FREEDOM.

 

[Kimber45acp]

Hatterasguy, instead of complaining about it, just establish residency in a better state. Sheesh, it's not like CT is huge or anything. Take a drive to PA or VT and do a face to face purchase. You'll feel better. Federally licensed dealers in PA or VT can't sell a handgun to you unless you've established residency, but you can legally do a private purchase using classifieds or the internet.

You've let the CT tyrants get to you, instead of having fun going AROUND them.

 

[Magic_Man]

BS gun laws is part of why I left NJ. Now I might be working there again. It's going to suck, but I will deal w/it & I will never move back there.

 

[distra]

The only PITA is there are so many CHL applications that it's taking 4 months for the state to get the license out.

It appears the permit process in CT and the CHL process in TX are not that much different. Cost about the same, takes effectively the same time, and very similar requirements. Other gun laws are not definitely not equivalent and I'll never understood that 30.06 sign while I was living there. Nothing like that up here, only schools, court houses and federal buildings are carry exempt. I agree with ninja, it's not that bad.

 

[M2 Carbine]

First I have to take a damn NRA class, fine thats OK. It only cost me $125 and took the better part of a Sunday. Basic BS like don't point the gun at your head kind of stuff.

But what pisses me off is the application. First I need 3 letters of recomendation, than I need to let them run a backround check, medical history check, finger print me, and probably call my neighbors as they did with my friend.

Oh it gets better! I need a resume of my work, school, and medical history.

I haven't got a problem with having to learn the laws, safety, etc, to get a carry license. It can be seen on web sites like THR that there are some really uninformed people carrying guns. (Whether or not you should be knowledgeable of the laws to be able to carry is another argument)

What I think is ridiculous is, if it is actually required, are letters of recommendation, medical history, etc, etc.

But it sounds like, from what others are saying, that this isn't the case.


But, do I understand correctly, that in CT you can't buy a handgun without having a carry license, or that your use of the gun is greatly restricted?


The Texas "30.06 sign" is what is required to be posted by a business that doesn't want you to carry in their store. (It's just private property rights and that's another subject.)
The signs are few and far between. I have not even seen a 30.06 sign in years.