Seecamp LWS 32

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You don't have a carry license, only carry on your property. How did I miss this information before. Is getting a carry permit an option?

32 as a main carry "depending on what one wants to be prepared for". o_O You're trying to give me an aneurism.
I carry to try and hopefully stop somebody(s) from inflicting serious or lethal harm to me. IMO, that goal is most likely achieved with bullets that penetrate at least 12'' and consistently expand to at least .60 or more. That goal is completely independent of where I am at, same goal wherever, so same ammo requirement everywhere. 32 acp does not meet that criteria nor does 380.

If you went into bear country and assuming its not your property wouldn't you need a carry permit and get a Glock 20 (10mm) with 10 more chances than a revolver.


I don't have a carry license, can get one or wait hoping for constitutional carry. Mainly just scoping the carry options ahead of time.

For bear a big handgun and a rifle would be good to have on hand too.
 
So I finally got back to the range with the Seacamp LWS 32 and the recommended PMC Bronze JHP 60 grain. Compared to the WWB 71 grain, these were a lot easier to shoot.

1. I did not get the trigger guard banging my finger at all, which it did every time on the WWB. I think the 71 grain is way too much for this gun. The recommended ammo is mostly 60 grain and I think one 65 grain. Also with 60 grain recommended ammo I did not shy away from sighting to shoot, where I was spooked about potentially flying slides with the 71 grain WWB.

2. The gun felt as manageable as the Kel Tec P32 from a recoil perspective, vs the WWB ammo the gun felt very snappy.

3. I did not get near as many jams, but did experience two jams. The first was the last round failed to eject and hung up the slide. I was okay with that as others had said that is not uncommon and if it is the last round, well that is better than the middle of the magazine. But then I got the second jam and that was in the middle of the magazine. Not sure what happened but to free it I had to drop the magazine and rack it. Not good. I did have the slide hit my support hand a couple times, not hard but I was hanging on too high. Maybe that caused one of the jams, or maybe this gun needs a good cleaning and oiling.

At this point, I don't know if this is a gun I can rely on as backup, especially since I have the Kel Tec P32 which seems to be remarkably reliable.
 
I am about done with this Seacamp pistol. Just took it to the range today (3rd try) and in a mere 32 rounds it had two failure to feed and a stove pipe. Worse yet, it threw a case in my face and got blood! Fixin to sell this thing as a useless, overpriced paperweight.
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I am about done with this Seacamp pistol. Just took it to the range today (3rd try) and in a mere 32 rounds it had two failure to feed and a stove pipe. Worse yet, it threw a case in my face and got blood! Fixin to sell this thing as a useless, overpriced paperweight.
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That ain't as bad as hot brass going down your shirt or behind your glasses and welding itself to your skin. Seecamps aren't the only gun that can abuse the shooter. :D
 
Just got a response from Seacamp and they said my serial number places my gun as being manufactured on 16 March 2009. According to Wikipedia, that means my gun is hand made:
Do you know what serial range they stopped being handmade?
 
Do you know what serial range they stopped being handmade?
No idea. There is a post on this site that says when the frame was strengthened:
all LWS32's after serial number 31000 any hp round that will fit and fire in the pistols are acceptable. (The strength of the stainless steel was upgraded to handle the additional stress produced by the 380 rd. and the 32's benefited for the same reason.)
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/seecamp-32.298703/#post-3672179
 
My wife bought a Seecamp on an impulse buy a few months ago. The shop almost got us to buy a box of 32NAA (wrong round) for it until I looked it up on my phone. So we went home with no ammo for it on day one, not something we normally do. Got it home, on my bench, got it cleaned. Didn't like it at all and we traded it off without a round ever being fired.
 
... I also ran a mag and chamber full (7 rounds) of hardball with the slide spacer removed and those shot just fine.

Going back to my first impressions, I think I should take this gun to the range one more time, remove the spacers from the mags and see how it does for a box or two of FMJ. I do think round nose FMJ will solve the feeding problem. We'll see on the ejection problem. A shame Larry Seacamp didn't provide the option for no spacer to run round nose.
 
My wife bought a Seecamp on an impulse buy a few months ago. The shop almost got us to buy a box of 32NAA (wrong round) for it until I looked it up on my phone. So we went home with no ammo for it on day one, not something we normally do. Got it home, on my bench, got it cleaned. Didn't like it at all and we traded it off without a round ever being fired.
I paid $450 for mine earlier this year. One GS didn't want it. Another GS said they could only give me $150 but maybe would be more in the fall when sales pick up.
 
keltec p32 for the win. in fact take about any currently-made, mass-market 380acp and offer it in 32acp for more wins. looking at you ruger...
 
keltec p32 for the win. in fact take about any currently-made, mass-market 380acp and offer it in 32acp for more wins. looking at you ruger...
I have a Kel Tech P32 and it is a GREAT gun!

Now for the Seacamp. I just removed the magazine spacers so I can shoot ball ammo and I think that will resolve most of the problem. Who knows it is 71 and 73 grain vs the recommended at 60 grain, so maybe that will help the ejection. Going to try it, but planning to use a face shield to avoid cases to the face. I took some sheet metal that I had laying around that was about the same thickness as the spacers and cut pieces 7/8-inch long, stuck them over the mag spring, then they were able to lock the mag end caps and now I can securely shoot the ball ammo. Going to the range sometime in next week or so to try it out.
 
Just got back from the range. After not being able to get this Seacamp LWS 32 to run without jams on the recommended ammo (hollow point of specific brands), I took the mag spacers out so I could run FMJ. Wow, I just shot 150 rounds with not one failure to feed and not one ejection failure. The only failures I got were maybe 10 times it did not go bang, but since the Seacamp is double action, I just pulled the trigger again and it went bang.

PPU ammo runs great. Fiocchi has an issue as some rounds were longer than others and would not fit, so I used them for the chamber and the top round in the mag.

My face shield was handy deflecting numerous cases from my face. My right hand and trigger finger were getting kind of sore. Tried shooting left handed and it is not good. Could not control the gun as well. This might be a right-hand only gun, or I start doing those hand squeezers with my left hand.

How in the world does anybody fire one of these in .380 ACP?:eek:
 
I was out with my Seecamp last Friday and was thinking the same thing about shooting 380. I haven't experienced cases coming toward my face, but after 6 mags worth of rounds, I was happy to move to a full sized pistol for the remainder of my time at the range.
 
I should also note that my success this time with the Seacamp and ball ammo vs HP may be partly or entirely due to hanging on to the pistol more tightly. I need to go back and try it with the HP now.
 
Going back to my first time at the range with the Seacamp I posted (on very limited data, 6+1 rounds) that I thought hardball might be a better choice for this gun. Not enought to be conclusive, so will still try the HPs. From first time at range:
I ran about 54 rounds of WWB half each from two boxes and split between the two magazines. I also ran a mag and chamber full (7 rounds) of hardball with the slide spacer removed and those shot just fine. I almost think the gun would be better running hardball, but the OAL of 32 ACP is too long for the magazine even with the spacer removed. I just had some ammo that was under the OAL by about half a mm and it worked.
 
I've had good luck with mine for the last couple few years so I've hung onto it and shoot it a little here and there, and carry it just a tad more than I shoot it.



 
Thanks for posting the videos and for putting them together. I had previously watched the second one and gave it a like. Also gave a like to the first one. I like your garage range. Do the neighbors hear the gunshots. Looks like the rollup door is not insulated. Maybe you live in the country. Does it throw cases in your face?
 
Thanks for posting the videos and for putting them together. I had previously watched the second one and gave it a like. Also gave a like to the first one. I like your garage range. Do the neighbors hear the gunshots. Looks like the rollup door is not insulated. Maybe you live in the country. Does it throw cases in your face?

Thanks!
The barn is getting crowded, but still I make room for my little range. I've been slowly working on insulating the (2) roll up doors. The walls are very insulated. Ceiling/roof not at all.
Yes, I live rural or country but not on large farmland, but mostly larger plot developments of 4-15 acres each. Thus the homes are typically spaced so shooting (properly with berms/blocking backstops) is safe and properly distanced between houses, main roads, etc., per state and county statutes/ordinances.
That said.... As the area has grown/developed many local hunters, recreational shooters (including myself) shoot a lot less than we used to. Yes, we can all hear each other's shots from a 1 - 2 miles away depending on time of year (winter carries most sound farther) and wind, etc. I shoot airguns of all types all the time in the barn and sometimes the yard, but pistols like this only occasionally to test, check, etc., as I don't want to 'overly' disturb the closer neighbors and run the chance of possible complaints and ordinance changes which are happening all to quick as of the last decade here in MN. Fun secret. I almost always shoot my pistol firearms during summer thunderstorms (especially high winds and thunder) and winter storms with high winds... I ask the neighbors (and my wife in the house) later after if they heard my shooting, and I get the typical answer like "no, were you shooting?", then sometimes, "I though maybe I heard something, but the thunder and wind were terrible"... lol So, I don't shoot firearms here at home as much as I used to, but enough to be satisfied.

Oh yeah, case ejections..lol Yes they sometimes hit my forehead or top of head and sometimes right shoulder, or even over more to the side, etc... Fwiw, it doesn't bother me when I consider what this gun is, and what it's made for, any more than the very heavy trigger, hard to grip size, etc. I figure this is for very close up defense in possibly odd hand or arm/body positioning comparatively to standard practice shooting stances and the like. Also, if I were to ever need to use it defensively I suspect I will not notice the cases wherever they hit me or anything else under adrenaline, possible tunnel vision, loss of fine motor skills and whatever else. So yes, during practice it's a tad annoying, but I don't actually shoot it 'that much' that it really bothers me at all. If it were a pistol for recreation I shot more often then it would concern me, but this little SD pistol not so much.
 
You can also shoot in the evening on the 4th of July! :)

Yeah, the little Seacamp is like a last resort, up close BUG. Positives over the Kel Tec P32 are that the Seacamp is true DA so if you get a failure to fire, just pull the trigger again. Also it is hard to put the seacamp out of battery if it is pressed against the perp as the slide is under the fixed barrel.

I figure to carry the Kel Tec for a BUG more than the Seacamp, but if I ever get a Rollex watch I would need to carry the Seacamp since a plastic gun does not comport with a Rollex watch. (Please tell me Rollex watches are not now made of plastic). But I don't wear a watch so for me the Seacamp is more a collectable and if ever I get a good offer I might sell it. But nice to know it can be carried as a reliable gun once I figured how to shoot it.
 
Yes that's true! Maybe even a tad more often before and after the 4th, as the boom booms start and end several weeks before and after around here...

Nope, no plastic/polymer Rolex watches yet that I'm aware of. Mostly made of some fancy steels and some ceramic in a few models.

I'd thought about selling mine a couple times as I don't carry it a lot, but I do like the size, design and build quality for an up close BUG or just a deep conceal option for a last resort need. Lastly, it's paid for!
 
I hit the range today with the stock magazine (with spacer in it) and tried out the recommended PMC Bronze HP and the WWB flat point.

Ran about 32 PMC HP and about 42 WWB. I had three stove pipes, always the last round in the mag (2 PMC and 1 WWB). I had one failure to feed with the WWB.

I am resigned to run PPU FMJ ball ammo as my last trip had 150 rounds with zero failure to feed or eject. Done with the HP and flan nose. Logic says a more rounded nose will feed better and that seems to be a major issue with this gun.

P.S. I now have a box of band aids in my range bag. Had to cover the blister the Seacamp gave me last time or it would have ripped it back open again.

I think I will take it to the range again along with the Kel Tech P32, shoot up the rest of the WWB and HPs and maybe a box of the round nose, and leave it at that. My LGS has the PPU FMJ ball for $29 a box of 50. Not a bad price. I bought three boxes last week and maybe will get some more.
 
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Oh my, yes for that much shooting these little zingers I'd need band aids too. You've shot that thing more in the last month than I do mine all year.
I've used only PMC hp, Federal Hydra Shock hp, and Speer Gold Dot hp in mine the last several years now with no issues so far.
I agree to stick to the ammo that works best in your particular unit.
 
Just ran to mags of WWB and 2 of the HP and no jams. Also ran the Kel Tech, maybe 30 rounds and it is way nicer to shoot and more accurate.
 
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