I believe this is a bit of an exaggeration
the car analogy is stupid because a car needs to be registered which requires proof of insurance etc.
I ONLY sell to folks who have a concealed license and can show a DL ...
I've sold 2 guns so far to nice guys, met in a public place, chatted a bit and they showed me their concealed licenses and DL and handed over the $.
the whole "a handshake is all I need" mentality drives me nuts :banghead:
way to go and make it easier for bad guys to get guns...
the car analogy is stupid because a car needs to be registered which requires proof of insurance etc. I certainly would NOT sell my car to person Y if I had the feeling he's an alcoholic and will drive my car without insurance through my neighborhood on a daily basis....
This is where the universal background check should come in. The DMV in your state should put a simple indicator on your drivers license or other state ID that says either FIREARMS OK or NO FIREARMS. The DMV will perform the background check with the current NICS system.Always just used my judgement. If the buyer seemed on the up and up, was friendly, had no problem showing me ID to verify age and residency, I never declined the sale. If the buyer seemed nervous, didn't have or wouldn't show ID or acted in any other manner that conveyed to me the individual shouldn't or legally couldn't own a gun, then the sale did not go through.
This is where the universal background check should come in. The DMV in your state should put a simple indicator on your drivers license or other state ID that says either FIREARMS OK or NO FIREARMS. The DMV will perform the background check with the current NICS system.
This would have the background check performed every time the license comes up for renewal so the status of a person could be updated. Should someone commit a crime worthy of stripping their right to own guns, the old license would be confiscated and when the person gets out of jail or completes their punishment, a new license with the NO FIREARMS tag would be issued.
The only requirement on the part of the seller is to simply ask to see ID. No need to call NICS or the cops or appear somewhere in person. No need to record a transaction.
Check ID
See FIREARMS OK
Complete sale
Sure a few people would subvert the law but they do that now anyway. You're never going to get rid of a black market.
This would at least serve to catch a few more and prevent sales without any real burden on the part of the private seller.
or some other state issued ID.So now you can't buy a gun privately unless you hold a valid driver license?
This is where the universal background check should come in. The DMV in your state should put a simple indicator on your drivers license or other state ID that says either FIREARMS OK or NO FIREARMS. The DMV will perform the background check with the current NICS system.
This would have the background check performed every time the license comes up for renewal so the status of a person could be updated. Should someone commit a crime worthy of stripping their right to own guns, the old license would be confiscated and when the person gets out of jail or completes their punishment, a new license with the NO FIREARMS tag would be issued.
What are you talking about? The proposal I outlined would utilize existing systems. That is part of the attraction is that the only government agency that actually has to do anything new is the DMV and they aren't the decision maker. The FBI with NICS is still the go/no-go agency. The DMV is simply responsible for checking before they put the OK or NOT OK on your ID or DL card. In theory, it wouldn't even cost any more.Why do you want even MORE gov't intrusion into your private life by some anti-gun desk jockey from the feds? SERIOUSLY?
Man you have a LOT to learn about freedom and responsibility
Not ideal when we task our government with the job of keeping guns away from those deemed (by due process mind you) unfit.
You have to pass a background check to buy from a dealer. Why not when buying from a private citizen?
So what if it uses existing systems?What are you talking about? The proposal I outlined would utilize existing systems.
That is part of the attraction is that the only government agency that actually has to do anything new is the DMV
-edit- in fact, this kind of pisses me off.
As it stands now, you can completely avoid any kind of background check by buying privately.
Not ideal when we task our government with the job of keeping guns away from those deemed (by due process mind you) unfit.
You have to pass a background check to buy from a dealer. Why not when buying from a private citizen?
The systems used to perform these checks have been in place for decades. They are paid for so to speak. They work.
Fantasy land. That's not real life.Why not automate the process a bit? Without any extra money spent
you could speed the process up for buying at a dealer and at the same time subject private sales to the same scrutiny.
AND you need only ask the seller to say "let me see your ID."
For a private sale mandating this extra step of government is a difference in the point of sale.Nothing else is different at the point of sale
The anti-gun folks cannot be appeased, and donig something to make them happy is IMO stupid.Most importantly, this gives the anti-gun folks a concession they can be proud of without actually screwing with law abiding gun owners.
They get their universal checks. You get no additional intrusion.
There is no difference in your experience other than having to pull your drivers license out along with the cash instead of just pulling out the cash.
How long do you think you should lock up someone for insurance fraud? How about the guy who gets caught with just a little too much weed?How about we keep the people who shouldn't have guns locked up? Then you know the guy you're selling to can't be prohibited.