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Sexperts, porn, and guns, oh my!
Mike S. Adams

June 7, 2005

A couple of days ago, bird watcher and forest conservation advocate, Rita Dean of Greenville, SC, wrote a letter complaining about me to the chancellor (and nearly every other administrator) of my university. She was shocked at some comments she heard when she saw me speaking on Capitol Hill (broadcast live on C-Span) in affiliation with the Clare Boothe Luce Policy Institute. Here's part of what Rita had to say:

"Carrying the banner of higher education, Mr. [sic] Adams today promoted the proliferation of firearms and tied this policy directly to the credentials and advancement of college Republicans. He encouraged conservative college students to promote the establishment of campus chapters of the National Rifle Association, and to align themselves on the other hand with pro-life advocates. I fail to understand the natural relation between guns and a "pro-life" position. It seems to be a progression in logic that is understandable only to Mr. [sic] Adams and his young acolytes. Mr. [sic] Adams reflects poorly on the entire University of North Carolina academic community..."

Ms. Dean's complaint suggests that the focus of my speech was the 2nd Amendment. The focus of my speech was actually the 1st Amendment.

Specifically, I suggested strategies to combat the efforts of liberal administrators to censor conservative speech on campus. After hearing my speech accusing liberal administrators of trying to censor conservative speech, Ms. Dean suggested that the liberal administrators should try to censor my conservative speech. Bird watchers like Rita make my job easy.

It is worth noting that my "offensive" speech criticized two UNC campuses-one for showing a porn movie to students (on campus) and another for hiring a porn star to lecture on safe anal sex. That was right before I told an LSU student (during "Q and A") that taking people "plinking" in the woods with a .22 was a good way to get them interested in firearms.

And that was the start of the problem, I suppose. You rarely hear so-called liberals (I call them neo-libs) like Rita discuss the dangers of porn and sodomy. But they are terrified of .22 rifles. And many neo-libs expect everyone to tolerate government funding of pornography and sodomy education while they refuse to tolerate gun ownership by private citizens.

And, of course, there is no inconsistency between my opposition to abortion and my opposition to gun control. Put simply, I am committed to the protection of innocent life. I want the fetus to be protected from the abortionist who seeks to take an innocent life. I also want adults to be protected from the murderer who seeks to take an innocent life.

Of course, critics of my response to Rita will argue that a fetus is not a person in order to rebut my assertion that "the abortionist...seeks to take an innocent life." But the real issue, the one that my critics will not touch, regards the status of the college student.

Whenever neo-libs seek to distribute condoms on campus, to show porn movies, to encourage sodomy, or to encourage "reproductive choice," they assert that college students are adults. But when it comes to gun ownership, they portray college students as children. And these children must be kept away from firearms, just as they must be shielded from any speech that might make them feel uncomfortable or wound their inner child.

The neo-libs claim a right to abortion they cannot identify in the constitution. But NRA members claim a right to bear arms, which is spelled out clearly below the 1st Amendment. It is no accident that the neo-libs seek to suppress knowledge of one amendment through the destruction of another.

And that is where I come in. You won't find me fighting for the right of government offices to spend my tax dollars on porn and sodomy lectures, just as you will never see me bother adults who want to watch porn or engage in sodomy. Instead, I will spend my time encouraging adults to learn to use firearms safely. I will do that by encouraging student NRA chapters on campuses across the country.

In the future, every time I make a speech on a college campus in South Carolina, I intend to donate one Remington shotgun to each host campus with an NRA chapter. The guns, which I will call Rita's Remingtons, will be given along with a contribution to the National Rifle Association. I will also provide the students with 250 rounds of 12 gauge ammunition.

Neo-libs like Rita Dean don't understand that I am proud to be a member of the NRA. I am also proud to have worked for www.NRANews.com during the last election year. I am only ashamed that I work for a university system that has sponsored $3000 lectures (at UNC-G) on safe sodomy and rejected my offer for a free lecture (at N.C. State) on firearm safety.

I hope you have fun watching birds, Rita. I'm coming down to South Carolina with my 45-70 to kill a hog in your honor. I look forward to reading your next letter to the chancellor. Pork chops, anyone?

Mike S. Adams can be booked as a campus speaker through the Young America's Foundation (www.yaf.org).

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/mikeadams/ma20050607.shtml

yeah, bits and pieces might be a little controversial, but like Professor Adams said, while I might not agree with some behaviors, neither will I bother adults who choose to engage in them. This was posted for the gun-related content, and I hope we stay on subject.

Besides, I just can't pass up one of his commentaries.... :p
 
You can count me in as one of those people who doesn't think pornography is "dangerous" for a mature and voluntary adult audience, but I don't think he comments about "proliferation of weapons" were really appropriate, because it doesn't sound like that's what he was advocating here.
 
You know, porn is just a "picture/video" right? It can't jump out and bite you, or rob you..

Some say it will destroy marriages, but so does alcohol, tv, losing your job, etc..

Policing morality is like herding cats..
 
Hmm. Is it legal to have firearms on campus in SC? Where would the campus NRA chapters store the shotguns?

Nothing wrong with watching a little porn on campus. :cool: Seriously, though, I don't see what's the big deal with handing out condoms.
 
My feeling is that since this is supposed to be a free country people should be allowed to copulate, procreate, fornicate, and sodomize (assuming all parties are consenting) as much as they should be able to own machine guns, rocket launchers, and cannons complete with depleted uranium and high explosive shells.
 
After hearing my speech accusing liberal administrators of trying to censor conservative speech, Ms. Dean suggested that the liberal administrators should try to censor my conservative speech.

Why, how very shocking!

I hope you have fun watching birds, Rita. I'm coming down to South Carolina with my 45-70 to kill a hog in your honor.

I wish I'd said that!
 
Wouldn't it be more fitting if you bagged a few birds and a few pine saplings instead of a hog in her honor given her birdwatching hobby and forest advocacy? (somebody think of the trees!) :D
 
My feeling is that since this is supposed to be a free country people should be allowed to copulate, procreate, fornicate, and sodomize (assuming all parties are consenting) as much as they should be able to own machine guns, rocket launchers, and cannons complete with depleted uranium and high explosive shells.
If the first were restricted to the same extent as the latter, then the birth rate would fall to zero and the only people having sex or children would be the very rich who had already done so in the 80s.
 
Henry, when talking to some of my anti-gun friends, they said since I support gun ownership, I support and desire murder, chaos, and general evilness.

I countered by bringing up the subject of sex (which they fully endorse) and the bad consequences it can have (diseases, unwanted pregnancies, etc.) as well as criminal misuse of sexual organs. I said since they supported sex, they must also support rape, child molestation, and general sexual abuse. This had a particularly powerful effect because one of my friends there had been a victim of an attempted rape when she a child by her grandfather. I continued to say that maybe sex should be regulated by the government because sex can have bad consequences. The look on their faces through my whole statement was great. They were simply and completely stunned. My friends had nothing to counter my point except that every day millions of people have sex without abusing someone. I countered with every day there are millions of gun owners who don't kill someone. They couldn't really argue their point anymore.

In the end, I was at least able to get them to separate the law abiding, non-evil owners of guns from the evil people who murder with guns.
 
I don't think his issue was to be a moral police regarding sex, I think he was saying he doesn't want (and I agree) taxpayer money to pay for several-thousand-dollar lectures on safe anal sex. Then he points out the hypocrisy and liberal bias of how they will turn down a free offer for firearms safety lectures.
 
Bucket!

Well done I would have paid money for a picture of those blank looks ;)
Well said I'll add that to my repertoire as well :evil:
 
People who think porn causes societal-problems/crime are the same ones who think violence on TV is the root cause of all the violence our young kids take part in today and that guns cause death and great bodily harm all by themselves.

I grew up watching John Wayne slaughter off hundreds of folks each and every weekend and so far I’ve yet to go on a rampage at my local high school.

Guns are inanimate objects no more deadly than you average car, just smaller, hell I’d argue they require more attention [over all] to kill with an your average car.

Porn, yeah…

Looking at Miss June [mammaries] makes me want to go out and destroy western civilization.

Remember these are the same people who firmly believe that no one is responsible for any of their actions, that something or someone caused them to drive drunk beat their wife’s or rob a bank.



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Bucket

"criminal misuse of sexual organs"....

I'm still laughing. I'll be plagarising...ummm...I mean borrowing that phrase.
Heh heh....

Biker
 
a “conservative” joker said:
Sexperts, porn, and guns, oh my!
[Dr., I presume] Mike S. Adams

… “Mr. [sic] Adams … encouraged conservative college students to promote the establishment of campus chapters of the National Rifle Association, and to align themselves … with pro-life advocates. I fail to understand the natural relation between guns and a “pro-life” position....”

… You rarely hear so-called liberals … discuss the dangers of porn and sodomy. But they are terrified of .22 rifles. And many neo-libs expect everyone to tolerate government funding of pornography and sodomy.…

And, of course, there is no inconsistency between my opposition to abortion and my opposition to gun control.…

… Whenever neo-libs seek … to encourage sodomy.…

The neo-libs claim a right to abortion they cannot identify in the constitution.… [sic]

What a laugh fest!

~G. Fink :rolleyes:
 
One of these days people are going to realize that there are some of us out there who actually combine traditionally liberal and conservative viewpoints.

People who think that...
-Marijuana should be legalized.
-Porn isn't bad.
-A strong military is essential.
-The borders should be secure.
-Gun ownership is a great thing.
-The government shouldn't care about what consenting adults do in their bedroom.
-The government shouldn't care what sex two people are when they apply for a marriage certificate.
-People should be free to worship who, and how, they please.

I've heard a lot of people agree with me on these ideas, but yet we continue to shove this liberal/conservative rhetorical crap down people's throats!
 
My feeling is that since this is supposed to be a free country people should be allowed to copulate, procreate, fornicate, and sodomize (assuming all parties are consenting) as much as they should be able to own machine guns, rocket launchers, and cannons complete with depleted uranium and high explosive shells.

So long as they harm no one but themselves, if anyone at all, and they can afford to pay for the consequences of their behavior. It is a pet peeve of mine when someone assumes there is a "right" to have children that one can't support.
 
I think he was saying he doesn't want (and I agree) taxpayer money to pay for several-thousand-dollar lectures on safe anal sex. Then he points out the hypocrisy and liberal bias of how they will turn down a free offer for firearms safety lectures.

WAS taxpayer money used? I thought it was a college?
 
Pornography

You cannot define pornography. Some people like pitchers of nekkid wimmen, some of nekid men, and prolly, some of nekkid guns.
 
One of these days people are going to realize that there are some of us out there who actually combine traditionally liberal and conservative viewpoints.

People who think that...
-Marijuana should be legalized.
-Porn isn't bad.
-A strong military is essential.
-The borders should be secure.
-Gun ownership is a great thing.
-The government shouldn't care about what consenting adults do in their bedroom.
-The government shouldn't care what sex two people are when they apply for a marriage certificate.
-People should be free to worship who, and how, they please.


Er... that's just... crazy.
Y-you have to be either a Republican or Democrat... right?

That's right, right?
I mean, there are only 2 sides of the Force, so there can only be 2 choices in political matters- it's pure logic.

Ummm... isn't it?

:confused:


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I have to admit, I'm with delayed reaction here: liberals usually call me "too conservative", conservatives "too liberal". Not my fault I'm in lock step with my own tuba player... :neener:

And I LOVE the attitude of "I support free speech, so long as the speaker agrees with me" :barf:
 
One of these days people are going to realize that there are some of us out there who actually combine traditionally liberal and conservative viewpoints.

Im one of these people too, although my views still differ from yours a bit. If there was a political party that perfectly mirrored the views of its constituents there would be several thousand of them, that would be an interesting ballot.
 
Delayed Reaction said:
One of these days people are going to realize that there are some of us out there who actually combine traditionally liberal and conservative viewpoints.

Ditto here too.

Of course, all you'd have to do to see that there's a number of people with your views on this board is to take a look into one of the periodic illegal drug threads.

I support:

"Liberal"
Legalizing drugs(and not just Mary Jane)
Legal prostitution
Much more open immigration policy.
Gay/Straight Civil Unions(want to get married? Find a priest, but it has no legal standing).

"Conservative"
Legalizing machineguns
Strong national defense
Tax cuts

"Neither"
Lesser federal control
Nuclear power (cleaner than coal, and still cheaper than 'renewable')
Balanced budget
Flat tax

Wierd:
Replace welfare with "workfare". Any american who applies will be hired, but the pay and accomidations are comparable to an E1 in the 1980's. But if you work 40 hours a week, you get food, shelter, etc.
 
svtruth :"You cannot define pornography. Some people like pitchers of nekkid wimmen, some of nekid men, and prolly, some of nekkid guns. "


eons ago, when I went to a parochial school, some teachers there thought Song of Solomon to be "too much, too racy" for our tender, unmarried minds...........So I guess, in their minds, if you were under 18 and unmarried, Song of Solomon was porn........
 
Now, Mike, this thread was goin' along just fine until you had to come along and throw a monkey wrench into the whole thing. Mr. Michael if You please...and how shall I address You Justin? As You can see from my edited post I am not all that fond of the First Amendment...but then...neither are You...since You edited my free speech.
 
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