Shortage of 7.62x39 big time!

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This just makes me glad I got rid of my SKS. I've got a case of Brown Bear 7.62x39 left. But, I've already promised it to friends. :evil:
 
My local Wally World started carrying 7.62x39 in WWB @ $18.00 for a 40 round pack. I used to think that was quite high and but the space on the shelf never has more than 4 boxes in it at any moment in time.

That price is starting to look better every day, especially since my last case of wolf is about 2/3 gone and the WWB stuff is reloadable.

I guess it is time to tool up my dillon for ak/sks ammo. I knock out 1k of .38 over a weekend, I guess 7.62x39 wouldn't be much different.
 
Yeah, this sucks...Had quite good supply (that I'd gotten when it was cheap)...shot much of it up...Now I'm down to "minimum" level, and don't wanna shoot anymore, 'cause I can't replace it cheaply. Have a strict shooting budget, and have to pick and choose what I shoot. Luckily no shortages of cheap 9mm or .22 (I use the Wolf Match Target), and my buddy handloads for 8x57(have some surplus, but its innacurate, so I don't like it), so at least I can still go shooting with a variety of guns.
 
$125.95 for a case, not including S&H, from Ammunition Store.
$169 including S&H from AmmoMan.


What shortage?
 
I went to the Dixie Classic Gun and Knife Show in Richmond yesterday and the only guy that had 7.62x39 left was selling 10 round stripper clips for 5 bucks each. Talk about a :cuss: ripoff!
 
Doubled in price

At my gun shop I bought a few cases of Wolf about two years ago for $74 a case(1000 rounds). Now they carry the Brown Bear ammo at $88 for 500 rounds.That's $176 for 1000 rounds. They have cases of Federal SS109 for $209. Both are the best prices I can find locally,or just about anywhere.
 
What I find most interesting is that the wholesalers we have talked to say that the price of ammo from Wolf has not gone up inordinately considering the increased costs in shipping. So your local dealers are the ones bending you over the barrel.
 
My experience mirrors 444's. Most of the bigger ammo dealers at the last Phoenix Crossroads show had pallets of Wolf 7.62x39. I shoot mainly .223 and .308, and was there to buy a P3AT, so I didn't look too closely at the prices. They seemed to average around $89/500 and $169/1000. Wolf .223 was offered for less, but there seemed to be plenty of the 7.62 for sale.
 
What would be great is if CCI made a Blazer 7.62x39mm like they do for 9mm and other calibers and sold it as cheap as Wolf. Wolf ammo is crap anyway, I would much rather buy American than support the Russian mafia or whoever runs that tolite of a country.

Come on America, produce some cheap 7.62 ammo so we can go tell Russia to piss off.
 
Why would handloads be posted in Rifle Country vs. Handloading & Reloading?

Mods, perhaps we can get something useful out of this subject. Could we get a sticky thread for favorite 7.62 short handloads? I recall some forumite bragging in his hardcast 7.62x39 loads. Perhaps we could share the knowledge? Perhaps as time goes on we can have a post in the thread for each scarce caliber or something similar.
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I mean, c'mon, that's a big "Duh" right there...


Now, having posted my favorite 7.62x39 handloads in the Handloading and Reloading portion of THR, I can quite honestly state there are several good loads listed there. I'm sitting on a couple thousand rounds of my own handloads for that chambering, and just bought a few hundred more pieces of once-fired brass to keep my AK and SKS rifles fed while people whine about the lack of available cheap surplus ammo.
 
At the WAC Puyallup show yesterday, there were at least two dealers (both of whom sell on the web-BuyAmmo.com and SurplusAmmo.com-selling Wolf 7.62x39 for $160/1000. It's not the $80-100/1000 it was a couple years ago, but that's about average for today.

They didn't appear to have any shortages, either. Although this was before lunch on Saturday.

They also had tons (almost enough for that to be literal tons) of various kinds of East Bloc 7.62x54R. Just none of the Wolf I was actually looking for in that caliber.
 
Diversify, gentlemen. When 7.62x39 gets high, shoot .223. When it gets high, shoot .308, when it gets high, shoot 30.06, when it gets high, shoot 7.62x54,
when it gets high, shoot 30-30. When it gets high, shoot 8mm or .303. Like most of you, I have a minimum stash level. But whatever is cheapest and most available is what I'll be shooting. Right now I'm wearing out a Mod 39 and 1917 Remington Mn, also a BYF 1944 K98. Haven't shot my 303s in a couple of years except for my reloads. Buy it when you can get it and reload.

rk
 
I do believe we should all boycot Wolf. They are ripping us off, and we need to more or less beat them into submission if we want the price to go back down.
 
1911JMB said:
I do believe we should all boycot Wolf. They are ripping us off, and we need to more or less beat them into submission if we want the price to go back down.
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While that works in theory,in reality it's like boycotting Amoco.Someone,not us but someone,will continue to pay whatever they ask.And it's simple economics,if people keep paying,the price doesn't go down.
 
One of my problems with the price fixing conspiracy is that there is more than 1 russian ammo manufacturer isn't there? If Wolf is dragging their feet isn't it logical to expect Barnaul http://www.ab.ru/~stanok/eng/index.htm to step up production a bit and under cut wolfs price?
 
What would be great is if CCI made a Blazer 7.62x39mm like they do for 9mm and other calibers and sold it as cheap as Wolf. Wolf ammo is crap anyway, I would much rather buy American than support the Russian mafia or whoever runs that tolite of a country.

Come on America, produce some cheap 7.62 ammo so we can go tell Russia to piss off.

1. There ain't going to be cheap anything brass. Local range was offered $1.40 per lb. of unsorted, uncleaned, scrap brass. Steel is going to be cheaper.
2. American Labor is WAY MORE EXPENSIVE than Russian Labor. The only way for any American company to compete against Wolf is either set up in a factory overseas or hire undocumented workers at a very low rate. Globalization sucks doesn't it.
 
...hire undocumented workers at a very low rate...
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And if the LIEberals heard CCI was using illegals to make ammo, ya think the whole guest worker program might get ignored in that case....
On the other hand, it WOULD cause Feinstien to suffer apoplexy...
 
I am taking this opportunity to shoot .308 and .223 rifles. I might shoot my SKS a little, but I am holding off for now.
 
There ain't going to be cheap anything brass. Local range was offered $1.40 per lb. of unsorted, uncleaned, scrap brass. Steel is going to be cheaper.
2. American Labor is WAY MORE EXPENSIVE than Russian Labor. The only way for any American company to compete against Wolf is either set up in a factory overseas or hire undocumented workers at a very low rate. Globalization sucks doesn't it.
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Hang on to your hats guys. This is just the wake up call for what's coming. As above, copper is way above previous historic highs. What to do think it costs to ship a truckload of lead??

I just spent $30 at the gas station today and got a little over 1/2 a tank of gas. Everything is going to go up. The big problem is that everything is related somehow to energy costs.

Most of you guys are just too young to remember the Jimmy Carter days, when you could literally watch prices rise. I think it's back. I remeber when gas was 19 cents, cars were less than $3,000. Houses were 20k.

Look around and remember. In a few years, these will be "the good old days" to the Gen X crowd.
 
I bought 13,000 7.62x39 rounds for Y2k , I shot up 4000 since then. Prolly have enough until the END!

When Winchester White Box 115 gr. 9mm was on sale @ Bass Pro Shops for $3.86, I went to Oshmans and asked if they matched prices. They did and I bought 24,000 rds. of 9mm right before they closed.

HAH HAH TO EVERYONE THAT FOUGHT AT BASS PRO SHOP FOR THEIR PRECIOUS 1 CASE LIMIT

1. 1 Pair of Nike Shorts ............................................... $9.99 plus tax
2. 1 Pair of size 12 Nike running shoes .......................... $39.99 plus tax
3. 24,000 rds of 9mm ............................................ $1,852.80 plus tax
4. The look on the Police officers face doing security......PRICELESS

Ammo all shot away in 1 year.
 
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