IJ1981
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In Miami Dade County, Florida, concealed carry is permitted on County buses and Metro Rail Transit. Its cool.
These can be dangerous areas, particularly at night.
These can be dangerous areas, particularly at night.
Same with Brightline too.I forget to mention that CCW holders can also carry concealed on Tri-Rail from Miami to West Palm Beach and return.
A very pleasant 65 mile trip. Do it!
Double, open is permitted hunting/fishing/camping and going to or from..........and does NOT exclude the public trans. mode.
Wow. Reading Brightline's policy they don't allow any sharp objects, not in carry-on or checked baggage or even into the terminal. One more reason not to use it.According to the Jacksonville SO, you CAN carry concealed without a permit on public transport within Florida or anyplace a CCW can carry, so long as you meet the criteria for CCW. https://www.jaxsheriff.org/Resources/PermitlessCarry.aspx Also echoed here... https://www.pnj.com/story/news/local/2023/06/29/florida-concealed-carry-law-starts-july-1-here-are-the-rules/70369
Privately owned public transport still can restrict carry, however. For example, Brightline's policy is LEO-only for firearms.
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Not according to Jay Inslee and his protégé, Bob Ferguson.According to the Constitution of the United States they should.
Y' know what we need? We need more DAs, Legislators, Judges, and High Goobermink Officials who can understand simple English.Not according to Jay Inslee and his protégé, Bob Ferguson.
Voted yes. An armed bus rider is a polite bus rider.
I'm well aware of the full quote and IIRC,one of the most pointed incidents in that book that I remember was when two of them, one armed with a modern (for then) energy arm, the other with a .45ACP 1911, a gross antique by the then-standards, wanted to test their mettle.I hope that is sarcasm. Otherwise, being armed, on a bus, or armed and on a bus has nothing to do with being polite. We would like for that to be the case, but it isn't. That paraphrased Heinlein quote from his dystopian novel Beyond This Horizon does not mean what you think it means as it is incomplete. Heinlein said, What does that mean?
“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.”
Well, in the book, even the most simply transgressions were okay to be settled by duels. You bump into somebody and don't say that you are sorry and they are offended, then they could legally challenge you to a duel with firearms. So you could literally end up dead because you didn't say you were sorry - you weren't polite. Is that what you mean by an armed bus rider is a polite bus rider? So they are all polite? Definitely not.
DeKalb man fatally shot while on Greyhound bus traveling along I-10, officials say
A 25-year-old Georgia man has died after authorities said he was shot and killed on a Greyhound bus.www.wsbtv.comSurveillance video captures fatal shooting after argument on SEPTA bus
Video from onboard a SEPTA bus shows two men in an apparent argument that turned physical before a suspect stepped off the bus, produced a handgun, and fatally shot another man.www.fox29.comNice Florida example... https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/suspect-arrested-in-shooting-on-miami-dade-bus/Texas elementary student fires gun on school bus on the way to school
Police say an elementary school student fired a gun in the back of a seat as students rode to school in the city of Seguin. While no one as hurt, the incident caused alarm and is now raising some serious questions.www.kwtx.com
Gunman dead after hijacking DART bus, leading authorities on chase from Richardson to Rockwall
Three officers were wounded after a gunman hijacked a DART bus Sunday morning in Richardson, prompting a chase that stretched across several cities in North...www.dallasnews.comSometimes armed passengers are so impolite as to being mass shooters on busses https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/03/us/california-greyhound-bus-shooting/index.htmlFifth-grader shot on school bus claims another student did it
Fifth grader shot on school bus claims another student did it.www.wlbt.com
Florida bus mass shooting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-gqM5m0d8A
This man was rude on 2 busses before police took him down. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gunman-dies-after-barging-into-seattle-bus-shoots-driver/
My contention, stated allegorically in that post, was that if everyone on the allegorical bus was armed, there would be fewer and fewer impromptu or formal "duels" as time went on.
That's not the starting situation. That's the resulting situation under the Billy the Kid (Darwinian) theory.I think if everybody thought logically and with equal values, your concept would work, but in the real world, they don't and so the theory likely won't. As you said, it is a theory.
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This is a cogent and considered examination of the portion of travel which is jetway-to-jetway.The commercial airline is also a special circumstance.
1. You have no chance to flee
2. There is no chance of help getting to you
3. If things go wrong with the plane at altitude, you die. Yes, a round won't blow up the plane, but lots of rounds might damage controls. People have been sucked out of windows and door.
4. If there is no control - it will be easy for 4 American citizens who are nuts or terrorists, to come on board with a Glock 17 and 4 mags on their belts - easy to conceal. They could then murder tens of people - of course, unless you jump up with your J frame as 5 is enough. Note these folks will not be deterred by the thought of your J frame.
No, no it does not.People can't just exit a plane or train, train can't stop fast enough quickly enough if there is and gun play going on so I say no.
Protecting the public does not mean your rights are violated. You can go drive your car. You have options.
Also protecting our government leaders from dumbasses takes precedent over your rights. Keep the .gov buildings safe. Betcha can't just walk on an army base with a gun. lol
So I can go visit POTUS and SCOTUS armed, locked and loaded? Your Governor's office? I seriously doubt that. Proof please.No, no it does not.
We do not have royalty nor classes of nobility. I and millions of other Floridians are able to carry in thr State Capitol, meet with the Governor and other lawmakers, and not be disarmed.
Been legal to carry in the Capitol for over a decade now.So I can go visit POTUS and SCOTUS armed, locked and loaded? Your Governor's office? I seriously doubt that. Proof please.
Private citizens with a valid concealed weapons permit will be allowed on the Capitol Complex per Florida Law.