BobCav
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The next war inside America will likely be the people and a large portion of the military against the police/FBI/ATF/etc.
Study history...and be afraid.
Study history...and be afraid.
Art Eatman said:But why rag on the cops? They don't make any of the laws.
Its childish, selfish and its the worst approach I have ever seen in trying to get a collective National CCW. You want allies this way?
+1.Art Eatman said:Tecumseh said, "We are just asking for equality."
Not one thing wrong with that. But why rag on the cops? They don't make any of the laws. And it's not at all correct--or logical--that the cops "have more rights".
Again, it's that non-cops are DENIED rights. Phrasing the issue that cops have MORE rights merely leads to a bunch of folks choosing up sides and smelling armpits...
The only real redress is legislative...
]But when a profession, as a group, consistently lobbies for privileges that are denied to the general citizenry, it is fair to say that the profession, as a group, deserves a bit of heat for having helped to bring about those laws.[
29. For any person other than a peace officer, the licensee or an employee of the licensee acting with the permission of the licensee to be in possession of a firearm while on the licensed premises of an on-sale retailer knowing such possession is prohibited....
This is what we should be working for, making the Concealed Weapons Permit universal. The police got it, now lets get it for the rest of the good guys!
The Amigo said:Call it what U want but that dead horse smells to me like anti LEO resentment.
Ad hominem, circular. This could mean, "Anyone who doesn't agree with me is wrong because they don't agree with me." It could also mean, "Oh, and they're stupid because they don't agree with me."There are those that just DON'T get it
That's been mentioned twice now. Translated: "How dare anyone disagree or add a different point to the discussion once The Truth has been written. I say it's a dead horse so shuddup."They're just beating a dead horse.
just cause one school kid throws a rock to your car doesn't mean its right to burn the whole school down with all the other students inside.
Name calling, and no I wasn't. I have called out, and put forth evidence, that police organizations lobby for special privileges. I have not said that all police officers agree with what their unions and lobbies are doing. I'm pretty sure they don't.Sound like stereotyping to me.
Name calling, and untrue. I do not resent LEOs. I resent privilege.Call it what U want but that dead horse smells to me like anti LEO resentment.
A gun is a tool not a right for the LEO to defend his life against people who are willing to put an end to a life in order to continue to crap all over laws and others people rights as well.
Especially the one that spoke of "the murdered grandmother in ATL". She shot two officers, and her grandson was dealing drugs out of the residence. Now I personally don't agree with "no-knock" warrants, but they are legal in ATL as of now, and the officers gave her plenty of time (enough to shoot 2 officers) to cease firing before they stopped the threat.
No one here has been bashing cops. They are pointing out the double standard. And yes it is wrong.As to those blatantly bashing LEOs, grow up. Especially the one that spoke of "the murdered grandmother in ATL". She shot two officers, and her grandson was dealing drugs out of the residence. Now I personally don't agree with "no-knock" warrants, but they are legal in ATL as of now, and the officers gave her plenty of time (enough to shoot 2 officers) to cease firing before they stopped the threat.
jamesish, What the f*** are you talking about.So you mean a street thug informant is trying to justify his lies by claiming it was the police that made him lie? Because some street thug drug dealer would definitely tell the truth, especially about dealings with the police.
And you wonder why some would question the double standard.A botched drug raid that ended the life of a 92-year-old woman in a hail of police gunfire is drawing questions from House members about the use of informants.
Police burst into Kathryn Johnston's Atlanta home last fall using a no-knock warrant they obtained by lying to a judge about drug activity there, according to prosecutors.
Afterward, when they realized their mistake, the officers tried to cover their tracks, and one has admitted planting drugs in the house and coaxing a street-level informant to go along with their story, according to court papers.