Kymasabe
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I LOVE Saiga's, have owned a bunch of them (and still do).
But...I voted for the FAL.
But...I voted for the FAL.
You can't argue with what works.Click Click Boom said:he High Roads opinion is 50%/25%/25%...... I thought it would be a little more balanced with all the AKophiles here.
Remember, I think everyone agrees that all three of those are good rifles. I doubt anyone is saying that any of them are bad choices. You've just placed a decent design that has been executed by everyone from skilled gunsmiths to drunken plumbers (the PTR) against a solid design that built its reputation around a completely different round and has required considerable alteration to house the .308 and then been converted by everyone from skilled gunsmiths to drunken plumbers (the Saiga) against a solid design that has been combat tested in that configuration and is executed by the premier US maker of that type of rifle. I'd be shocked if you got a different answer than you did.You can't argue with what works.The High Roads opinion is 50%/25%/25%...... I thought it would be a little more balanced with all the AKophiles here.
Both the FAL and G3 design are combat proven around the world.
The Saiga is a commercial offering in .308.
NO ALUMINUM UPPERS THO'!!
Right, but how has it been scaled up in the Saiga? Is it done the same way? Are the parts made to the same spec as the Galil? How did the Galil perform in scaled up configuration? Remember, we're talking parts breakage and wear as well as simple function.The AK acthion has been combat proven in longer actions... 8mm and 7.62x54r.
The Galil was oiginally designed to be .308/7.62 NATO to replace the FAL, then scaled down to 5.56. Then made in .308 for comercial use and fianally made as .308 and used as a DMR rifle for the IDF.
Didn't see a response to the question about ammo, and I am now thinking of a big brother for my AR. So, are the 165 and 180gr rounds safe in the FAL and PTR?Will the FAL anfd the PTR91 fire any hunting ammo? Can you run 165 or 180 grain bullets in your PTR91, or your FAL and have the gas system work reliably, or will that off the shelf hunting ammo damage the FAL and the PTR??
The availibility of 147-150gr military surplus ammo is something to be considered. There isnt much availible any more.
The Saiga will run with any ammo including the walmart hunting ammo.
.308 semi auto carbines that are available with a 16" bbl, folding stock & hi cap mags. Reliabilty & Maintainance over MOA.
Click Click Boom The M1A was not an option... and that is $2500 or more worth of heavy and Ugly....