SigArms is doing well in the US

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Was reading this and thought I'd pass it along:

U.S. Postal Inspection Service Awards SIGARMS® A Contract For 3,600 SIG SAUER® Pistols

Award is the fourth major contract won by SIGARMS in just six months.

EXETER, NH - The U.S. Postal Inspection Service (USPIS) has awarded SIGARMS® a contract for just over 3,600 SIG SAUER® pistols chambered in 40 S&W. The contract which was announced February 9, is for the SIG SAUER P229R featuring an M1913 Picatinny rail, SIGLITE® night sights and the new DAKT trigger system. The contract is the fourth major federal contract won by SIGARMS in the last six months and follows on the heels of the $23.7 million pistol contract awarded by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) in August, a $4.2 million pistol contract awarded by the U.S. Coast Guard and a contract with the U.S. Army Tank-automotive and Armaments Command for 5,000 units of the new SIG SAUER SP2022 pistol.

"More and more we are seeing federal agencies turn to SIGARMS for the reliability, accuracy and durability of the SIG SAUER pistols. Testing conducted by the Department of Homeland Security showed that the SIG SAUER is the most reliable pistol available. Agencies like the USPIS, have validated this testing through their own test and evaluation process," said Peter Kujawski, SIGARMS Vice President of Military and Government Sales.

The SIG SAUER P229R selected by the USPIS is the same model selected by the U.S. Coast Guard and one of the three models selected by the DHS. The P229, available in 9mm, 357 SIG or 40 S&W, is the model that is the most popular with SIGARMS' extensive list of law enforcement customers.

To support the company's continued growth in the military and law enforcement market, SIGARMS has expanded operations at its Exeter, New Hampshire facility with the addition of several new state-of-the-art CNC machines increasing production capacity by over 25%. SIGARMS is an ISO 9001: 2000 company manufacturing in Exeter, New Hampshire.
 
I wish they were doing well enough to introduce 55x civilian rifles here.

Another thing I don't understand is why the 229 is more popular than the 226 when in comes to law enforcement contracts. Most of these guns are probably NOT purchased with the intent of having them be worn concealed, so why pick the compact over the full size? I guess I have big hands, but the 229 is the smallest gun that I would feel comfortable carrying, and I prefer something larger... like my 226. :D
 
I bet Glock is pissed
I bet beretta is pissed too

It is funny how two European companies (HK & SIG) beat two other European copmanies (Beretta & Glock)... all on American soil.

and i think S&W and Ruger must be happy that neither company attempted to make a modern DA revolver (Beretta and Sauer SA's not count)
 
The U.S. Postal Inspection Service (USPIS) has awarded SIGARMS® a contract for just over 3,600 SIG SAUER® pistols chambered in 40 S&W.

I feel safer knowing that there are just over 3,600 armed postal inspectors protecting me from, uh, paper cuts and stuff.
 
ttbadboy, I think it's just a hand size issue. I thought my 226 fit my hand really well until I got a 228, which feels much better to me. I still love the 226, but if I had to choose one it would probably be the 228. . .to each his own.

waterhouse
 
Dao

Other than the obvious legal advantages (a lawyer can't try to convince a jury that your gun had a "hair trigger"), are there any tactical advantages to the DAO Sigs that all of these government agencies are so hot on right now?

BTW, I'm considering purchasing a P229, P228, or P239 in 9mm for CCW. I would love to hear from owners of any of these pistols on their respective merits. Out here in the boonies it is next to impossible to compare them side by side. None of the gun stores keep Sigs in stock :banghead:
 
Hi Outbacker. I currently have a 229 myself. It came in 40 S&W and I have since bought a 9mm and 357 Sig bbl for it. The 40 mags that come with it will fit and feed all three calibers without a problem. I've had the 229 now for about 4 years and I have well over 10,000 rnds through it using the various calibers. It works great and I've never had one problem with it. I have larger hands and it fits me fine. If you get one, you will not be dissapointed.
 
Dao

Thanks, Rock! I've got to tell 'ya that I'm definitely leaning toward the P229. I really like having the ability to shoot all three calibers with the two barrels. I ordered a full 1:1 size airsoft replica of the P229 that should be here today or tomorrow so I can get an idea of how one will fit in my hand, etc. When buying gloves, I always get the best fit with men's size Large, so I probably don't have the smallest hands in the world either. Although, I think my hands are pretty average sized for a 6', 250 lb. guy.
 
Just some random thoughts ...

When it comes to the possibility for disparate impact lawsuits, a smaller grip frame can help mitigate user complaints about it being 'too big' for smaller statured users to properly handle and operate.

DAO-type operating systems are becoming increasingly popular because it's easier to train new, unskilled users in their operation.

SIGARMS has apparently taken a close look at the competition in the US market, because they've reduced their L/E contract pricing significantly.

I have nothing against SIGARMS pistols, either, since they're one of my personally preferred three TDA (DA/SA) pistol platforms for 'full size' service weapons. I have 'medium size' hands, although I generally wear a Men's Large in gloves. All of the SIGARMS pistol frame feel acceptable to my hands. I do prefer the S&W & Glock compacts & subcompacts, though ...

All of this government competition is eventually going to result in some nice designs/models trickling down into the civilian marketplace, too ... although hopefully with some increased availability and decent pricing.
 
Postal Inspectors go after people who commit fraud using mail, or send child pornography, etc.
 
...some of the better government shooters I've seen.

I feel safer knowing that there are just over 3,600 armed postal inspectors protecting me from, uh, paper cuts and stuff.

I like that, it's funny. But the Postal Inspectors I've seen qualifying at a local range were some of the better government/police shooters I've seen.


Respectfully,

jdkelly
 
I agree with ttbadboy. I'd like to see the 550 and 551 for civilians. Also can't wait til the x5 and mosquito hit the dealer shelves.
 
Go Sig! Competition good for the market.

Now submit yer K-trigger pistols for California! 45R wants one.
 
Outbacker, I have owned at one point or another every sig minus the 210. I really like the 229 and got rid of the 239 becasue it didn't feel right in my hand (got rid of the 245 for the same reason). If you are looking for a single stack for concealability I'd suggest looking at the 225, which is larger than the 239 but still flat. Can't go wrong with a 229 though. Pick whatever fits your hand best.

As for tactical advantages to DAO, I can only say from my personal experience that my first double action shot is never in a nice tight little group with the rest of the signle action shots. Am I flinching or changing my grip or doing something else wrong on the first pull, yes, but I don't know exactly what. It still hits withing a couple inches of where I want it to, which is good enough for defense work, but there is something certainly different about what happens on that first long pull.

Thus my recent found love of the 1911 (I'm stil lkeeping my Sigs though)

waterhouse
 
Another one for Sigs 55x carbines.... very cool and seemed as reliable as a sunrise when I shot them.
 
Actually, H&K is pissed.

Talked with an inspector-friend. They received the initial contract and had started to deliver. Sigarms filed an appeal under an archaic "buy american" executive order from the 30's and stole the contract out from under H&K.

Apparently, importing a frame (what ATF considers the firearm) from Germany and mating it to U.S. parts makes it count as "American Made". Methinks this is not over.

Sigarms also maintains that you can change the grip size. Putting on larger Hogue grips, I guess.

I believe H&K was also the low bidder.

Oh, and deej- what high-speed, low drag employment do you have that you can make fun of postal inspectors?
 
Any word on the contracted price per pistol ?

Sort of makes a guy wonder if the miltary will be toting Sigs instead of Berettas in the foreseeable future.

I'd like one of those rigs but, without the P-Rail!
 
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