Silly myths you have had to fight with

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And holsters that expose the trigger have a greater chance of something bad happening.
How do you know that to be true? I mean, I can demonstrate that driving drunk increase the chances, on average, of being in an accident, and I can demonstrate that riding a motorcycle without a helmet increases the chances, on average, of sustaining a head injury. What is there, aside from anecdote and urban myth, that allows you to be so confident in your judgment?
 
The fact that a holster with a covered trigger, makes it impossible for an outside object or force to manipulate or pull the trigger by accident or on purpose, without first unholstering the weapon. A holster that does not cover the trigger, allows such occurrences to be possible.
 
holsters that expose the trigger have a greater chance of something bad happening.

Depends on the gun. Just like the "keep your finger off the trigger when drawing" doesn't apply to single actions. "Keep your thumb off the hammer" does apply, and is far more important than the trigger finger.

A cocked single action revolver can fire when dropped. A finger inside the trigger guard can help prevent dropping a gun with a plowhandle grip, but won't fire the gun unless the hammer is cocked.
 
Something is inherently wrong with the ergonomics of a firearm (single action or not), if you have to keep your finger hooked inside the trigger guard to maintain a steady grip in order to keep the weapon from slipping out of your grasp...
 
The fact that a holster with a covered trigger, makes it impossible for an outside object or force to manipulate or pull the trigger by accident or on purpose, without first unholstering the weapon. A holster that does not cover the trigger, allows such occurrences to be possible.
And how often does this happen? How do the numbers compare to the numbers of folks who have shot themselves while holstering in a "safe" covered-guard holster? Frankly, I'm aware of a single incident involving a branch activating the trigger of a D.A. revolver carried in an exposed rig, even though such rigs were standard for 70-80 years.

OTOH, I can think of several instances of covered-trigger holsters being involved is silly accidents.

Here, for instance. Or several incidents here. And one here.
 
gun silencers...

Guns DO NOT have "silencers", they can have sound SURPRESSORS, :cuss:. When a round exits the barrel it will make a noise, how much you hear is what the supressor does!

I also like; The semi auto pistol went "full auto" :uhoh:. I say how??? :confused:

He must of used "knockdown powder", :rolleyes:.

How can you carry that? "I have a valid license from the state and I do not need your permission or approval." :mad:
"Holllowpoints are illegal." Not everywhere, ;).
"if you shoot somebody, pull them into the house and put a big knife in their hands. " :uhoh:
Eyewitnesses at a shooting incident will be honest, open and concerned about assisting law enforcement officers w/o any racism, bias or spite, :rolleyes:.
RS
 
1) Don't agree with Ayoob's book that says not to carry handloads.
2) Don't agree with Ayoob's book that says 38 specials can't take a steady diet of +P
3) Don't agree with Speer load book that says 30-30 brass is a weak design.
4) Don't agree with Kuhnhausen's book that surplus Mausers need to be re heat treated.
5) Don't agree with Sierra's handgun handload book that CZ52s are stronger than Tokarevs.
6) Don't agree with those gunsmiths that say it is back-yard-Mickey-Mouse to glass scope mounts to the receiver
7) Don't agree 454 Casull brass small primer is a necessary mod to 45 Colt brass for 65kpsi
8) Don't agree 460 Rowland or 45 Super brass is a necessary mod for 45acp brass for 40 kpsi
9) Don't agree the starting velocities in "Speer 12" and "Speer 13" were measured, but dry labbed.
10) Don't agree the loads for a cartridge and bullet in "Speer 12" and "Speer 13" were taken at the same pressure.
11) Don't agree that a Mauser type case head labeled 270 Win can take twice the pressure as one labeled 8mm.
12) Don't agree that it makes much difference between 20 foot pounds and 1,000 foot pounds in barrel torque.
13) Don't agree that lapping Weaver rings is as advantageous as glassing mounts to receivers with fixturing.
14) Don't agree with the action wrench design in MacFarland's Gunsmithing book, Receiver bearing top and bottom must be in the same plane as the bolts.
 
There's a difference.......

The moon is made out of cheese...... That's a myth

Obama cares about preserving the 2nd amendment...... And that's a LIE.

And moderator, if that's too political, just delete it.............
 
"A .223 will penetrate more building material than a pistol round."

That would depend on what building material and which pistol round.
 
OTOH, I can think of several instances of covered-trigger holsters being involved is silly accidents.

Here, for instance. Or several incidents here. And one here.


First link does not mention anything about whether the holster was covered or open. Second link has many incidents, none of which mention whether they're covered or open. Third link has one incident, which also does not mention whether the holster was covered or open. Most of these incidents involved guns which were either unholstered or being unholstered/reholstered at the time of the discharge, and as such have no bearing on this issue.

Even assuming every single one of these holsters had a covered trigger, only ONE incident is listed (in the second link) which may have relevance here:

Aug. 17, 1993: Officer shoots another officer in finger when gun goes off in holster as he exits patrol car.

The ONLY way that such an occurance could have happened is if the trigger was pulled by something, and that cannot happen if the trigger is covered by the holster, unless the holster itself is defective. As such, either the officer lied in the report and was fondling the gun when it went off, the holster was open and the trigger got caught on the seat belt latch (or some other foreign object), or the officer was using a defective covered holster.




Also, keep in mind that the vast majority of service/duty holsters cover the trigger guard. Thus, any incident is likely to have happened with a covered trigger holster, regardless of the cause. If you were to look at the per capita incidence rate of holstered discharges between covered trigger holsters and open holsters, I'd bet money that open holsters have a far higher incidence ratio.
 
krochus said:
I thought of another one..

Leveractions work better with rimmed cartridges.. Two words people 35 remington

Yeah ... and the 1895 Winchester was lever action and used .30-'06. I'm pretty sure it worked really well ; no one complained to John Browning about it.
 
I am the only one in this room professional enough....

If I shoot you in the foot W/ an M-16, the bullet will hit your Tib/Fib and tumble up to your head & blow your brains out.

Gun kill people
 
So, lets here some of these myths you have heard people say about guns.

Some moron actually tried to tell me that the U.S. Constitution has a part in it that guarantees the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms. I challenged him to prove it true. "You mean all the PEOPLE", I asked. He could not. A MYTH. :(
 
Mostly from insane antis:

"Scarey" looking accessories like barrel shrouds actually make weapons more lethal.

Banks or car dealerships are giving away full auto assault rifles with the purchase of a car or savings account. And they give it to you on the spot.

If only we'd outlaw all the icky guns there would be no more violent crime and all guns would magically dissappear.

Waiting periods actually accomplish something.
 
Here's one:

Guns kill people......

Yeah, so does cars, knives, hammers, ballpoint pens, rat poison, etc... Depends on who the scumbag behind these things want to do with them.

And here's another one:

Only the police and military should have guns.........

Umm, yeah, sure. We all know how that turned out in Europe during the middle of the twentieth century.
 
Gun owners are one united front with their ideals and personal feelings and agree on everything.

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Gun owners are one united front with their ideals and personal feelings and agree on everything.

Oh no. Not that quite united. Yet.

There is still so much to be done to unite everybody. There are still way too much fence sitters out there.
 
The sound of a shotgun being pump-loaded will automatically send bad guys scurrying.
Brand X firearm will never fail.
Caliber X will only just piss a bad guy off.
M16s/AR15's will always jam
AKs will never jam
Guns can "go off"
Guns are weapons (gun are delivery systems; bullets are weapons unless you're beating someone w/ said gun)
Brand x is "better" than Brand Y
 
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