Some new Ruger rifles on the horizon

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Ruger quietly introduced a new American Ranch in .450Bushmaster and American Rimfires in .22LR/.22Mag/.17HMR with a threaded heavy barrel, matte finish and black laminate stock.

.450:
http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?item=16950

.22:
http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?item=8348

.22Mag:
http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?item=8349

.17HMR:
http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?item=8350


There's also Precision and American rifles in the new 6mm Creedmoor.

http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/...All&cal=6MM+Creedmoor&fin=&sit=&zipcode=38310
 
Must have been more money to be made on the .450 Bush than a 7.62x39 American Ranch. For the life of me, I don't know why they won't chamber that gun in 7.62x39. Afraid it will take away from their mini-30 sales? I dunno. Seems like the perfect caliber for that platform.
 
I'm guessing a lot of it has to do with the bolt face.

I'm pretty sure the rims of the .223 .300 Bo and .450 are the same. It's a simple matter of slapping a different barrel on an existing action.

The Russian round might take more engineering.
 
Good point. If it were a Savage, it would be a simple swap of the bolt face too, but it's not...

Well, the .450 Bush looks like a nifty little round anyway. Good for them.
 
Just checked out of curiosity. .223 is .378 and .450 Bush is .473 at the bolt face.

I think the ability to use this round in states that are otherwise muzzleloader/shotgun only, is probably the reason.
 
My interest is piqued in that .450 as well. I have no practical need for one, I just have an irrational affinity for big bore firearms.

I'm guessing the Bushmaster round will be a handloaders only proposition in a few years, though.
 
Newtosavage said:
Just checked out of curiosity. .223 is .378 and .450 Bush is .473 at the bolt face.

I think the ability to use this round in states that are otherwise muzzleloader/shotgun only, is probably the reason.
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That could be it.

Of course, as far as a bolt gun chambered in a big bore AR round is concerned, The .50 Beowulf would have been cooler.

I'm also surprised they haven't churned one out in 6.5 grendel to compete with the howa mini action coming out.
 
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The 450 is being made to be legal in states like Ohio where they have some weird laws concerning legal rifles to hunt with. They made a special run for a distributor and sold much better than expected.
 
jmr40 said:
The 450 is being made to be legal in states like Ohio where they have some weird laws concerning legal rifles to hunt with. They made a special run for a distributor and sold much better than expected.
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Yea, I saw that. Sold out quick! Well, again, good for them. Looks like a clever little round.
 
The bushy is based on the 284, so yeah its the the .473 bolt face, and actually a pretty decent capacity. Fired from a short bolty i betcha its one hell of a hammer. Personally i prefer the socom, cause i think its "Dead Sexeh!", But for all intents and purposes with 300grain bullets they work pretty much the same. That particular rifle interest me obviously, lol.
 
littlelefty said:
nice! I'm watching/hoping for an American chambered in pistol calibers, especially 38/357
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You probably won't.

Rims are problematic most bolt actions use a design where the bolt head does not rotate with the locking lugs. And a completely different type of breaching would be required
 
I didn't see any of the new American Rimfire models on their website yet.

The 450 Bushmaster in their Ranch Rifle doesn't really make much sense to me. What would a "rancher" need a 450 for? At 3+1, it's half the capacity of the other two models. I think Ruger would have seen a great number of sales if they would have chambered it in 7.62x39, but I guess they have their reasons. I just can't see the 450 being a big seller for them. Interesting, but I just don't think the demand is there. In a gun as light as the American Ranch, I'm betting that 450 will kick like a mule.
 
The 450 is specifically for shotgun only states. They have sold a ton of these in Michigan. I would like to see some pistol calibers rifles as well...
 
I also see the 450 being marketed to short range hog hunters and those guys that want a big bullet for short range work, while being cheaper than a 45-70 levergun, or AR in a similar chambering. I think they would sell really well in x39 also, tho I probably wouldnt buy one just because its too much action for my preference.
 
Cool, thanks, and not too ugly. Seems everyone is going for that "functional" "tactical" look these days.
 
I think Ruger would have seen a great number of sales if they would have chambered it in 7.62x39
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I'm not the only one thinking this it seems. I think they would sell a ton.
 
ECVMatt said:
The 450 is specifically for shotgun only states. They have sold a ton of these in Michigan. I would like to see some pistol calibers rifles as well...
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Well, I didn't think about it that way. But that's just one specific application in one out of 50 states. I would think that Ruger would need to think on a larger scale than that when introducing a new model.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for new models and variety and if it helps a group like Michigan deer hunters, that's even better. It just seems like an odd choice to me. In terms of economy of scale, I would still think the 7.62x39 would have made more sense. I'm not a 450 shooter, but it seems like this would be a reloaders caliber. Factory ammo is fairly pricy and I don't see anything about reforming 450 brass from other calibers. When people started turning 223 brass into 300BLK brass so easily, that really changed the game with that round. Before that, it was really a novelty and too expensive to shoot.
 
The .450 might be interesting suppressed shooting subsonic handloads. If I was in a place that allowed hunting with suppressors, I'd feel much better about .300+ grain .45 cal bullet at subsonic velocities than a 200 grain or ligther .30 cal bullet at the same velocity.

But, I live in California where we can't do anything cool.
 
Jason_W said:
The .450 might be interesting suppressed shooting subsonic handloads. If I was in a place that allowed hunting with suppressors, I'd feel much better about .300+ grain .45 cal bullet at subsonic velocities than a 200 grain or ligther .30 cal bullet at the same velocity.

But, I live in California where we can't do anything cool.
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This. Jason beat me to it. A heavy, suppressed subsonic .45 caliber bullet would be great for hunting hogs here in Texas. Way cooler (IMHO) than a .300 BLK.
 
Here is a nice explanation about the thinking behind the 450...it starts about the 16 minute mark:

 
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