conan32120
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i don't believe this is true, 30 thompson center gets credit as the parent caseIRCC, the 6.5cm is spawned from the .308 as is the .243 and some others.
i don't believe this is true, 30 thompson center gets credit as the parent caseIRCC, the 6.5cm is spawned from the .308 as is the .243 and some others.
I can tell you from experience, if you reload, the 6.5cm is more forgiving than the .243. Because of the neck size and shoulder angle, an improperly lubed .243 will collapse in the sizing die whereas I've never had it happen on a 6.5cmI have a Savage Model 12 and an AR in 308 but have been considering swapping barrels on both to something with less recoils due to shoulder injuries along with arthritis. I have looked at .243, 6mm Creedmoor, and 6.5 Creedmoor.
All three calibers will do what I want and there isn't a lot of differences between the three when talking about targets 500 yards or less. So another factor I have been taking into consideration is barrel life since I do more target shooting than I do hunting. While the .243 and 6mm CM have less recoil than 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 CM has the edge when it comes to barrel life.
Another factor that I take into consideration is ammo availability, here again the 6.5 CM wins.
Though I still haven't decided which caliber to go with yet. And until I decide, I'll keep shooting my AR in 6mm ARC.
IRCC, the 6.5cm is spawned from the .308 as is the .243 and some others.
Which looks an awful lot like a 300savage......The parent case of the Creedmoor is the 30 TC, not the 308 Winchester.
We are both partially correct. The 30 Tc is a shortened .308The parent case of the Creedmoor is the 30 TC, not the 308 Winchester.
i don't believe this is true, 30 thompson center gets credit as the parent case
I starred with a 243 AR and wanted a bolt too got a 6mm Creed because of a smoking deal on a gen 2 Ruger Precision. The 6 Creed is so much easier to load for I switched the 24" bull 243 to a 20" H bar in 6mm Creed. Like you they spend much more time on the range and I still have a 308 AR and big levers if I needed.I have a Savage Model 12 and an AR in 308 but have been considering swapping barrels on both to something with less recoils due to shoulder injuries along with arthritis. I have looked at .243, 6mm Creedmoor, and 6.5 Creedmoor.
All three calibers will do what I want and there isn't a lot of differences between the three when talking about targets 500 yards or less. So another factor I have been taking into consideration is barrel life since I do more target shooting than I do hunting. While the .243 and 6mm CM have less recoil than 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 CM has the edge when it comes to barrel life.
Another factor that I take into consideration is ammo availability, here again the 6.5 CM wins.
Though I still haven't decided which caliber to go with yet. And until I decide, I'll keep shooting my AR in 6mm ARC.
I starred with a 243 AR and wanted a bolt too got a 6mm Creed because of a smoking deal on a gen 2 Ruger Precision. The 6 Creed is so much easier to load for I switched the 24" bull 243 to a 20" H bar in 6mm Creed. Like you they spend much more time on the range and I still have a 308 AR and big levers if I needed.
I gave thought to barrel life and figured it was mostly offset by the difference in projectile cost.
No, I didn't and you misunderstood my initial point. I said I never hear or see the kind of hype and marketing that people are bitching about. Only the bitching. Every bit of complaining and "hating" I see, including in this very thread and every other I've ever seen, is from people who clearly don't understand the cartridge's intended purpose.Yea, you kind of did.
Again, you miss the point. The 6.5CM isn't popular because of a new powder... quite the opposite, there is a new powder aimed directly at the 6.5CM shooters because the cartridge is so popular. They could have called it 100 other names, but stuck that 6.5 in there, instead.
I'm still (partially) there. Not intentionally resisting but I most certainly don't want to be mistaken for the numerous insufferable twits who manurebomb every other thread with references to 6.5CM, but as the topic of this one actually IS 6.5CM, I decided to participate from a rational point of view.Most of the hype I've heard and seen is from newbies and posers wanting to be the cool kids , and also magazine writers trying to fluff thier content. That's exactly why I resisted it for years.
I shot benchrest with 6mm PPC in mid-late 80's and it wasn't exactly new even back then. How can we thank a several decades more recent cartridge for that? Would you be so kind and elaborate, please? We've heard the 6.5CM being this, that and everything, but a time machine too?Thanks largely to the 6.5CM we've got tons of new(ish) 6mm cartridges to play with...6.5RPM, 6PPC
PLUS...one thing the Creedmore does NOT have....factory wooden bullets.
Thanks largely to the 6.5CM we've got tons of new(ish) 6mm cartridges to play with...6.5RPM, 6PPC, 6ARC, 6ABC, 6XYZ, 6ETC, etc, etc.....all of which, apparently, relegate me to Fudd status for sticking with .308.
Sigh.
Which is a .308 with a shorter neck IIRC.Which looks an awful lot like a 300savage......
Every time I see someone say “they need to make a ________”, I think to myself that person should get a “Cartridges of the World Handbook”. Once one looks through it, you’ll pretty much discover that there truly is nothing new under the sun.I shot benchrest with 6mm PPC in mid-late 80's and it wasn't exactly new even back then. How can we thank a several decades more recent cartridge for that? Would you be so kind and elaborate, please? We've heard the 6.5CM being this, that and everything, but a time machine too?
Going from memory here, and it's been a long time since I was interested in the .300 savage......but .....Which is a .308 with a shorter neck IIRC.
When I had my .300 I was having a hard time finding brass. A guy that was a big time reloader suggested using .308, shortening the neck. I was highly skeptical until I compared them side by side. Nearly identical
His claim was that Winchester “borrowed” the case dimensions to make the .308. I have no idea and really don’t care enough to research it. As the song from the 70’s goes “It don’t matter to me....”
Exactly. I had never had a need for a good rifle above the .17/.22 range. When I used to deer hunt, it was in slug only areas. Finally decided to jump in a year ago and buy a nice paper puncher. I'd paid attention enough to know how accurate and well liked the 6.5CM was, so I went that way. And I'm very happy with my choice. I don't look down my nose at any other calibers though. It's all good, whatever gets the job done.I don’t understand the haters, or the it’s the best ever crowd. It’s another good choice among several.
Once one looks through it, you’ll pretty much discover that there truly is nothing new under the sun.
Theres always a bigger gun, what can a 6.5 Swede do that a 264 win mag can’t do ?what’s your point?Seems to me that the 6.5 CM is yet another re-invention of and old cartridge that offers no better performance.
What can a 6.5 CM do that the 100+ year old 6.5X55 Swedish cannot do? Eh?
I don’t understand the haters, or the it’s the best ever crowd. It’s another good choice among several.