possum
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i agree, i am glad that to know that i am not the only one that feels that a month isn't enough.
Springfield Armory XD "Made in Croatia"?
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i agree, i am glad that to know that i am not the only one that feels that a month isn't enough.
well here's the issues i had with my xd:
-the more the barrel heated up, the worse the accuracy became (much worse), and it was already inaccurate with a cold barrel.
-i put 700 rounds through it before i sold it-all fmj of different brands and they all had failures to feed (about a dozen per box)
don't you xd lovers ever wonder why absolutely ZERO police departments issue the xd, while about 400 already issue the m&p?
and aftermarket match grade barrels are drop in on the glock and m&p, but they are "semi-drop in" on the xd because the xd tolerances vary a lot more greatly from one gun to the other.
greater tolerance variability=malfunctioning & inconsistency!
i make a pretty good case for xd's being garbage, don't i?
(oh yeah go to christiangunowner.com and read his review of the xd-sounds eerily similar to mine, and he tried buying 2 different ones!)
-the more the barrel heated up, the worse the accuracy became (much worse), and it was already inaccurate with a cold barrel.
-i put 700 rounds through it before i sold it-all fmj of different brands and they all had failures to feed (about a dozen per box)
don't you xd lovers ever wonder why absolutely ZERO police departments issue the xd, while about 400 already issue the m&p?
and aftermarket match grade barrels are drop in on the glock and m&p, but they are "semi-drop in" on the xd because the xd tolerances vary a lot more greatly from one gun to the other.
greater tolerance variability=malfunctioning & inconsistency!
i make a pretty good case for xd's being garbage, don't i?
(oh yeah go to christiangunowner.com and read his review of the xd-sounds eerily similar to mine, and he tried buying 2 different ones!)
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HorseSoldier
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Buddy of mine I went through the police academy with now carries a 40 cal XDm instead of his department issued Glock. Bunch of rounds through it, including some pretty intensive all-day range sessions and I've not seen him having any trouble with it. Maybe he got a particularly good one that made it out of the factory alongside some lemons or whatever, but based on what I've seen of his I would feel acceptably armed with an XD (though I'll keep my 1911 before carrying any plastic guns).
ReloaderFred
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None of my six (6) XD's have demonstrated any of the problems you claim to have incurred, and they have had thousands of rounds through them. My wife carries one, and it's the only Semi-auto handgun she's ever been able to shoot well. She also shoots lots of rounds in matches each month, but those are all revolver rounds. She's an experienced shooter, and loves her XD.
There are numerous police agencies who authorize the XD for service, even if they don't issue them, by the way.
Your limited experience with the gun doesn't qualify you as an expert anymore than my extensive experience with them qualifies me as one.
Hope this helps.
Fred
There are numerous police agencies who authorize the XD for service, even if they don't issue them, by the way.
Your limited experience with the gun doesn't qualify you as an expert anymore than my extensive experience with them qualifies me as one.
Hope this helps.
Fred
ReloaderFred
I shoot with LEO's nearly every week and have been for over 3 years. I also work at a fairly large outside range and on weekends I get between 100 and 200 shooters at any given time with about every type of gun you can shoot. Of all the problems shooters have I would guess 99% are operator errors very few are actually problems with the gun itself.
S&WMP45 statements and condemnation of his particular problems with the XD is inconsistent with what I see all the time, and I shoot all 6 of my XD's all the time. This last winter alone I reloaded 8,000 bullets and I'm now down to less than 300, and all through every caliber of XD's and I been doing for a very long time.
It's one thing to post a problem someone has with a gun, it's another when it turns into bashing thread because a single person thinks the gun is "garbage". It may be for S&WMP45 but apparently it isn't for a lot of others.
I shoot with LEO's nearly every week and have been for over 3 years. I also work at a fairly large outside range and on weekends I get between 100 and 200 shooters at any given time with about every type of gun you can shoot. Of all the problems shooters have I would guess 99% are operator errors very few are actually problems with the gun itself.
S&WMP45 statements and condemnation of his particular problems with the XD is inconsistent with what I see all the time, and I shoot all 6 of my XD's all the time. This last winter alone I reloaded 8,000 bullets and I'm now down to less than 300, and all through every caliber of XD's and I been doing for a very long time.
It's one thing to post a problem someone has with a gun, it's another when it turns into bashing thread because a single person thinks the gun is "garbage". It may be for S&WMP45 but apparently it isn't for a lot of others.
sanerkeki
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Yea they are made in Croatia. I have the original HS 2000 in 9x19 and it really is a good gun, nothing fancy about it. I also have 4 xd's and they are similar to Glock but much better made and can handle more.
ReloaderFred
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ar10,
I'm a retired LEO manager and former rangemaster for a department with over 1,000 employees. I've fired just about every handgun made, and have carried one every day for over 40 years. Unlike S&WMP45, I don't consider myself an expert on firearms, since there is always something to learn. His other trolling/hate thread has been locked and he's been warned by the moderators to tone it down. If he doesn't, then I'm sure they will take other measures.
My experience with my 9x19, 357 Sig, .45 acp, and new 9x19 XD-M XD's have been nothing but good. I own over 50 handguns and can carry just about anything I want, but the only gun I carry anymore is an XD. Mine have all been flawless, and since they're designed to be "service" handguns, they perform that function exceedingly well.
When fed the proper ammunition, they run like they're supposed to, and that's all I can ask of any handgun.
Hope this helps.
Fred
I'm a retired LEO manager and former rangemaster for a department with over 1,000 employees. I've fired just about every handgun made, and have carried one every day for over 40 years. Unlike S&WMP45, I don't consider myself an expert on firearms, since there is always something to learn. His other trolling/hate thread has been locked and he's been warned by the moderators to tone it down. If he doesn't, then I'm sure they will take other measures.
My experience with my 9x19, 357 Sig, .45 acp, and new 9x19 XD-M XD's have been nothing but good. I own over 50 handguns and can carry just about anything I want, but the only gun I carry anymore is an XD. Mine have all been flawless, and since they're designed to be "service" handguns, they perform that function exceedingly well.
When fed the proper ammunition, they run like they're supposed to, and that's all I can ask of any handgun.
Hope this helps.
Fred
Same experience here as with most of the proponents of the XD. Own 4 of them based on my experience with the first one. One of the pistols has close to 12,000 rounds through it and still goes bang. I have taken that through 4 defensive pistol classes and one IDPA match. No faultering.
Others may not like the gun or tell you that it doesn't feel right in their hands. The latter is a definite reason to not like it. However, what I haven't come across are any reliability issues from the owners I know. Of course there are lemons out there, but the folks that I do know who own 'em consider them good for a few reasons: Easy take down, good grip angle, and especially their reliability. I'd throw in pretty accurate as well. The standard model .45acp XD that I own shoots really, really well.
So some might not like it and there are different takes for different folks, but I personally don't hear too many complaints, the previous poster aside.
Others may not like the gun or tell you that it doesn't feel right in their hands. The latter is a definite reason to not like it. However, what I haven't come across are any reliability issues from the owners I know. Of course there are lemons out there, but the folks that I do know who own 'em consider them good for a few reasons: Easy take down, good grip angle, and especially their reliability. I'd throw in pretty accurate as well. The standard model .45acp XD that I own shoots really, really well.
So some might not like it and there are different takes for different folks, but I personally don't hear too many complaints, the previous poster aside.
Col. Plink
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Is the Tactical model XD45 (5") considered the 'standard' model? Is it what they call the 'servce' model too? I'm guessing they're the same, as they call the 4" .45 the 'compact'. Just wondering what the Tactical model has over the others...
the "standard" model is the 4" service model...like a Colt Commander.
the 5" tactical model comes with the longer barrel...like a Colt Government Model
the "compact" model also has the 4" barrel, but has a shorter grip frame...like a Colt Commander slide on an Officer frame
their "sub-compact" has the Compact grip frame, but with a 3" barrel...like a Colt Officer ACP
i think part of the confusion is that in 9mm and .40, they call the 3" barreled version the "Compact"
the 5" tactical model comes with the longer barrel...like a Colt Government Model
the "compact" model also has the 4" barrel, but has a shorter grip frame...like a Colt Commander slide on an Officer frame
their "sub-compact" has the Compact grip frame, but with a 3" barrel...like a Colt Officer ACP
i think part of the confusion is that in 9mm and .40, they call the 3" barreled version the "Compact"
ReloaderFred
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The Service Model has a 4" barrel, and the Tactical Model has a 5" barrel. In the .45 acp, the Compact has a 4" barrel, but a shorter grip to facilitate concealed carry.
The Compact .45 magazine holds 10 rounds of .45 acp, while the Service and Tactical magazines will hold 13 rounds. They also offer the fullsize magazine with a grip filler that will fit the Compact model and make the grip the same size as the Service and Tactical models.
In the 9x19 and .40 S&W calibers, there is a Sub-Compact that has a 3" barrel.
Hope this helps.
Fred
The Compact .45 magazine holds 10 rounds of .45 acp, while the Service and Tactical magazines will hold 13 rounds. They also offer the fullsize magazine with a grip filler that will fit the Compact model and make the grip the same size as the Service and Tactical models.
In the 9x19 and .40 S&W calibers, there is a Sub-Compact that has a 3" barrel.
Hope this helps.
Fred
It gets complicated. When I bought my 1st one.45GAP (5") it was the tactical, my second was the .40 service, (4" barrel), then came the 9mm service (4"), next was the 9mm sub (3"), next was the .40 sub (3") and my last was the .45APC compact (4"). What's screwy is I was looking at a .40 compact 4" barrel at the same time I was carrying my 40 service, 4" barrel. I saw no difference but the salesman state they were different. I went to my truck, dropped the mag and ejected the chamber, then went back in. I asked to see the 40 again when he brought it out I laid mine on the counter. Other than his being new and cleaner there was absolutely no difference in either of them. Neither him or myself could figure it out, we even field stripped them and swapped barrels and slides.
lukepriebe
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I've shot about 8 different varieties of ammo through my .40 and never had a ftf. I have nothing but love for the gun and so do all my friends and family that have shot it.
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