Stereotypes

[Ian]

The other day at the airport, I happened to be delayed, waiting for a flight with a guy who totally fit a couple stereotypes - kinda longish scraggly hair, thin beard and goatee, about 25 years old, skinny, slightly baggy clothing. His appearance and mannerisms totally screamed modern pinko hippie.

We got to chatting, and it turned out he was traveling to spend the summer at a commune. Wahaha - big surprise!

It also turned out he was currently a postgrad student at American University, studying law. When I found that out, my impression changed from "no harm, it takes all types" to "this dude will be working for the Brady Campaign in two years tops." Sigh.

So just for kicks, before our plane got in, I tossed out an idea for him. I suggested that what would be really cool would be an organization like the ACLU (whom he had already done inter work for) that defended the whole Bill of Rights.

"What do you mean?"

"Well, the ACLU just pretends that the 2nd Amendment simply doesn't exist. A group like them that would defend the RKBA would be awesome."

"Yeah, man! I never did understand how liberals are all anti-gun. It's about protecting the little guy, and gun ownership is a big part of that."

You never know what's under the surface, eh? This ACLU-employed, commune-dwelling, tree-hugger owned a couple guns, enjoyed shooting, and totally understood the RKBA. Unfortunately, we didn't have the chance to talk much more, or I would have worked on planting (if they weren't there already) some memes about suppressors and full-auto.

 

[Kali Endgame]

Kind of like seeing my Prius driving, global warming, Bush is evil, big oil is the devil, Zoology teacher buying tipped arrows at Big5. He wasn't shooting hay bales. I guess he was big on the "Do as I say" motto.

 

[PeteRR]

Pink Pistols, unreconstructed trotskyites, or left-handed lesbian trapshooters. It doesn't matter as long as they support the RTKBA.

 

[foob]

Kind of like seeing my Prius driving, global warming, Bush is evil, big oil is the devil, Zoology teacher buying tipped arrows at Big5. He wasn't shooting hay bales. I guess he was big on the "Do as I say" motto.

How does a prius driving, global warming, bush is evil, big oil is the devil, zoology teacher buying arrows mean he was "Do as I say" and not "Do as I do"?

Firearm owners/hunters that drive prius are hypocrites? Firearm owners/hunters that think global warming is real are hypocrites? etc...

The factors you listed and hunting are not mutually exclusive.

If he is against others hunting while himself hunting is fine, then that's a hypocrite.

 

[Kali Endgame]

foob,
That was only a taste. He was always going on about our foot print and how we all use more resources than we need. Also, he would go on and on about us not driving with someone to school. I got to school before he did and he was a solo driver. He was also a big conservationist(which I supprt), yet he traveled all over the country by plane or car. But he preached to us that we should drive as little as possible. And, yes, every class was like an indoctrination period. He would praise the European societies and bash ours. He immigrated here. These are just some of the examples I remember.

Here is a link to a website that measures your ecological foot print.

 

[ubermensch]

I just took that "footprint" survey. I live like a pauper in a small apartment, energy efficient everything, I drive 10 miles a day tops, and it is trying to guilt trip me: "If everyone lived like you we would need 3.5 more planets." Groan.

 

[MrTwigg]

Geez

I need 7.9 planets.

 

[Gordon Fink]

It was 2.7 planets for my Prius-driving lifestyle, but I’ve been advocating space exploration and colonization for decades.

~G. Fink

 

[slow944]

That's pretty interesting because I read some where that all 6 billion plus people could fit in Texas with each person having 1/4 acre of living space. Not that we want all 6 billion plus people here but that would leave the rest of our planet for prime hunting.

 

[whited]

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I read some where that all 6 billion plus people could fit in Texas

Not that many would want to.

He was also a big conservationist(which I supprt), yet he traveled all over the country by plane or car.

Perhaps we wasn't as big of a conservationist as he thought. No raindrop
believes he is responsible for the flood. (I love that saying)

 

[matt87]

1.4 and that's with eating a lot of meat I guess not driving has its advantages...

 

[billhilly66]

HA! I used to be a professional musician and had long hair and a beard. My guitar player and I stopped in a bar in Ft. Collins, CO for a couple of beers back in 94-95 and the place was full of hippies from CSU. They assumed we were like minded folks until one of them went off on the “man” and started spouting some of his cute little Marxist BS. They were quite surprised to find out that my politics were somewhat to the right of Genghis Kahn.

So much for stereotypes.

 

[Wheeler44]

Some people call me a space cowboy.

Some call me the gangster of .......... well you get the idea. I have been likened to hippies, surfer dudes, certain liberals. Some family members refer to me as a pinko, I'm not sure they really know what one is but it sounds good to them. I have had long hair. I have planted a whole bunch of trees back in the '70s & '80s. I like granola and would be real happy if there was some old growth forests left for my grand kids to enjoy.
I have also owned firearms since I was 8 yrs. old. Even though I didn't shoot for almost 20 yrs. I still supported your rights to keep and bear arms. I have spent a lot of time and energy educating other "tree huggers" about the 2nd ammendment and what it means to John Q. Public.
Over the last couple of years I started shooting again. Teaching my teen aged children and enjoying the trigger time as much as the expeience of watching them learn to love the sport of shooting.
Many people who, on the surface, look like "tree huggin', granola eatin', liberal, pinko, hippies.' are actually "freedom lovin', gun shootin', constitution supportin, AMERICANS and a few Canadians that I know also lean the same way.
So, to see someone and judge, because of hair length or clothing choice, how you think they might vote , Is patently ridiculous.
The next time you are in a line between some one with long hair and tie-dyed clothes and some one in Romeos, Carhartts and a plaid shirt with cut off sleeves don't be too sure which one is packin' and which one ain't.

 

[jakemccoy]

Nowadays, I think there a few (or zero) broad labels that actually mean something.

 

[akodo]

that 'footprint' websight is bogus. I did an honest one, and then a less honest one, and then repeated both with my selected location as peru. Somehow living in peru makes my calcuations all work out just fine.

also, I happen to live in a very very mall suburb in the middle of the twin cities metro area, so I could honestly put that I live in a city of less than 1000 people. Changing that to a big number also changes many things.

Now, you are right that people who drive a prius totally undo any good they do the second they are in an airplane for more than 30 minutes.

and that organic lettus isn't so great once you realize it is out of season here and they are flying it by plane from new zealand or whereever

 

[JohnBT]

I just saw my first young white woman driving an old Volvo with a University of Richmond Law sticker on the rear window - and an Obama for President bumper sticker. I was shocked.

All of the other ones I've seen around here have Hillary stickers.

John

 

[TallPine]

I got stuck on the same page over and over ... I guess the website didn't like my answers

Anyway, I reckon anyone with electricity, a computer and web access uses too many resources.

Maybe I should kill more deer so I eat "locally processed food"

 

[TCB in TN]

I gotta work harder, It only takes 17 acres to handle my needs, I gotta get a bigger lifestyle!

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

Apparently if everyone lived like me we would need 10.3 planets. My house is pretty small but I have a long commute and like eating animals. I want my 46 acres! I'd love to be able to shoot in my own back yard.

Stereotypes are just superficial. It's whats going on in your gray matter that determine who you are. Look at the diversity of people on THR. Good luck to anyone trying to draw up a THR demographic.

 

[esmith]

Cool i need 16 acres. I think that surpasses the 4 that i have already. I better get that up by the time im 20. Take that you tree hugging, gun-grabbing, green party, hybrid driving commies!

 

[SaMx]

I agree that labels are pretty much useless. but the story does have a good message.
the modern "young, long-haired hippie liberal" is pretty libertarian minded. It doesn't take much to make a gun-rights case to them. Those guys and girls are what you need to ensure the future of the second amendment.

 

[Dravur]

Woohooo

I took the quiz and got a 39. I gotta break 40. I think Ill go out and eat a cheeseburger and set fire to a gas station.

Just a joke....I allready had a sandwich for dinner...

 

[chopz]

stereotypes allow us to take a shortcut around thinking for ourselves.

i'm a bible thumping holy roller type. i say my prayers every night, i'm prolife, anti-big government. i used to be a long haired musician type. i believe in a fair level playing field; favoritism to special interest groups is wrong, just as favoritism to big business is wrong. i believe we should all be conscientious about keeping the land clean and passing a healthy planet on to our children. i'm a small businessman.

i'm prejudiced against people who are prejudiced - especially if they're prejudiced against me.

i don't approve of people buying and selling democracy, getting into bed with america's enemies and then pointing the finger at somebody else. i'm against corrupt government and abuse of power. i'm disgusted by inflated government contracts, money that should go to kevlar for our soldiers that ends up lining the pockets of hypocrites. oh yeah, and i'm a blue-state yankee.

i'm not sure which stereotype i fall into; maybe you can tell me.

 

[Prince Yamato]

Wow I use 5.4 planets. That's OK, we'll colonize Mars soon.

 

[.cheese.]

another one that is totally wrong is that all jews are anti-gun. I'm not anti-gun obviously (heck, I just plopped down $1k+ for an LMT AR today, and that's just the latest addition to the collection!).

Plenty are, but as organizations like the JPFO make it increasingly obvious, plenty are pro RKBA.

And while we're at it, the flip side... that many think about us, that if we're gunnys, we must be KKK neo-nazi types. My yarmulke says otherwise and in my time in the gun world, I've only run across a very small number of those types (and ironically they all work at the same gun-store... coincidence I guess).

Stereotypes are evil and despite what sociologists will tell you about them being a defense mechanism, they serve no decent purpose these days in America.