jimbo555
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Not all striker fired triggers are the same. The Kahrs have a smooth but long d/a style trigger.
Separate and apart from the safety/ND-avoidance issue, some people find that having the "better" trigger pull on all but the first shot is an advantage.
And then they figure out that they can fix that first shot as well, with a 1911.
from my post at #3what is the advantage of DA/SA over DAO?
The DAO has a "people management" advantage, but from shoot-ability the DA/SA usually is at an advantage.The subsequent lighter SA trigger pull, once you've started shooting, is usually a better trigger pull than your typical striker fired gun.
In his first study, 33 male and 13 female officers of different ranks and years of service, were sent into a room to arrest a "suspect" and to "act in a way they thought appropriate" while doing so. The officers were armed with a SIG-Sauer P226 that was rigged with force sensors on the trigger and grip. All the officers were instructed that if they drew the gun during the exercise, they were to keep their finger off the trigger unless they had made the decision to shoot, per their training and department regs.
As the role-play evolved, 34 of the 46 officers drew the gun and one officer actually fired, intentionally. Of the 33 others who drew, all insisted that they had followed instructions to keep their finger outside the trigger guard, because they'd not made a decision to shoot.
The sensors told a different tale.
Seven of the 33--more than 20 per cent--had in fact touched the trigger hard enough to activate the sensor. Even the officer who eventually fired his weapon "not only touched the trigger twice before actually firing and once again afterwards, but also had his finger on it long before actually firing," Heim notes. Yet he too maintained he'd kept his finger well clear of the trigger until the very split-second before he fired.
I'm a Dvorak guy-- less tiring and a touch faster. It took a few months to get up to speed, but it was worth it.Indeed! And a good example. None of us would be willing to suffer the anguish of trying to learn to type on an alphabetical (or other more logical) format keyboard, though. How many years would that take to relearn? And would it really help anyone do anything truly better?
Any Kahr, SIG DAK, H&K LEM...Deanimator said:I've never seen a DA auto of ANY kind that had a DA trigger pull that could hold a candle to that of a Glock with a reasonable trigger set up, nevermind an S&W revolver.
--And a light mounted to the gun and activated by deputies squeezing a pressure switch on the handle has led to confusion in some incidents, with "a significant number of deputies reporting that they unintentionally pulled the trigger of their weapon when they intended only to turn on the light."
One advantage to the striker fired action is that it is a simple point and click response.
This disagreement has always made me wonder why there is no slim single-stack DA/SA. Enough folks like them (including me) that it seems like a natural, but all the newer CCW pieces are striker-fired.
When Glocks first appeared it was the trigger that was unique
Not exactly, since Iver Johnson came out with the Safety Automatic Hammerless 2nd model, with a similar trigger bar safety. some 90yrs before glock hit the scene.
No gun that is made does not borrow elements and working ideas from the ones that came before.