SWAT team kicks down wrong door again...

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We have a tough job to do if you don’t like we the way we do it then get off your collective butts and join the force and do it yourselves!!!
I can't believe I missed this earlier. That is such a cop-out (no pun intended, I promise.) Seriously, take your ball and go home if that's the attitude you're going to have. :D
 
Can't blame the cops for this either



yes I can. Where do you think the information comes from to obtain these warrants, no knock and all. umm, 1 guess. COPS


We have a tough job to do if you don’t like we the way we do it then get off your collective butts and join the force and do it yourselves!!!


If its too tough, that you cant do it right, might I suggest get out of the kitchen.
 
Hey weasel,

Try this prospective:

Two hours face down on a parking lot, gun at your back, in sub freezing weather, while a dozen JBTs rip the whole intireor out of your van.
If it had been any other power mad, crazed street gang I would've hunted 'em down one by one.
Don't say I don't cut you guys more slack than you deserve.

Oh yeah, that's just one instance.
Must have been my fault.
I had long hair.
Apparently not a legal option in Texas 30+ years back.

No I never bothered to file a complaint, it would only get me busted for something else I didn't do.
 
So how would you say we do it???

The only people that NEVER make a mistake are the ones that NEVER DO ANYTHING!

Plus, it isn't as if the folks we chase list their name, DOB, SSN, picture, and address in a big criminal directory... There are times when we have to go on god, but limited information. The real world does not fit into a textbook.

Lets look at the reality:

There are violent criminals that will fight, kill, rape...etc and they must be arrested.

We as LEOS are charged with making that arrest.

In order to make those arrests, we must go to where they are which includes their house, car, job etc.

They will often resist our arrest attempt with violence IE gunfire.

Because of this, we counter their threat with weapons and the element of surprise...the latter being very very important if you want the LEOs to stay alive.

If we give up either the weapons (SMGs, Flashbangs, armor...) or the element of surprise, then we are actively compromising the safety of the officers. All of those tools have a specific purpose and that purpose is to affect the arrest safely.

When you demand mistake free humans, you will only get humans that do nothing because that is the only way to guarantee that no mistakes will be made. How many times do people complain that they see cops just sitting around in a coffee shop?

Want to know a little secret? Nobody ever got sued or arrested for sitting in a coffee shop... That is why. It is safer from a career standpoint to just do nothing which is what many of my fellow LEOs do because they got tired of being sued and threatened with arrest. Now, many of us just go hang out at the firehouse and watch movies...or take a nap in an alley. I don't blame them bc I understand how a man with a family would not want to get sued for his kids college money or possibly arrested for defending his own life...

I hear a lot of whining about how LEOs work, but no suggestions from the choir of chairborn rangers...
 
All right. Both sides have had their say. Neither side is changing anyone's mind. And the rhetoric is heating up.

Guess it's time to close this one.

Thanks to everyone for keeping this very emotional topic fairly levelheaded.

pax

After all is said and done, there's usually a whole lot more said than done.
 
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