Taurus Millennium Pro owners?
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gettopharo
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Another Mill. Pro PT145 owner
I've had mine for about six months now and I LOVE IT. I think its the perfect pistol if your looking for something compact, accurate and reliable. As weird as it sounds the Millenium pro .45 is actually light than the 9mm. It has never jammed, but you gotta keep in mind that it need cleaning every about 250 rounds. Again accuracy is great as someone mentioned above, probably goes back to its low recoil, so you can get good aim one handed. If you got 1 in the chamber your ready to go, so keeping it on saftey is a good idea, otherwise your just a cock away...that sounded wierd, but you get the point.
Finally, the best part is if you buy it new, it has a life time warranty.
Hope this helps.
I've had mine for about six months now and I LOVE IT. I think its the perfect pistol if your looking for something compact, accurate and reliable. As weird as it sounds the Millenium pro .45 is actually light than the 9mm. It has never jammed, but you gotta keep in mind that it need cleaning every about 250 rounds. Again accuracy is great as someone mentioned above, probably goes back to its low recoil, so you can get good aim one handed. If you got 1 in the chamber your ready to go, so keeping it on saftey is a good idea, otherwise your just a cock away...that sounded wierd, but you get the point.
Finally, the best part is if you buy it new, it has a life time warranty.
Hope this helps.
Jkwas
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I don't have the DA/SA model, but as soon as I can get my wife a keltec and get that milpro away from her, it will replace my 605 revolver as my carry piece. It's a great gun, and I do like the fact it has a safety, because even though it's DAO, the trigger is still very light. It's a great buy.
chaim
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I've tried the SA/DA Mil Pro in dry fire at the shop and it seemed to me (in a rather limited trial) that the trigger is just as long as the DAO. It has a lot of take up as the travel is the same length, it's just a lot lighter. If this is true, while I wouldn't recommend carrying a SA pistol without the thumb safety engaged you could possibly get away with carrying without the safety and relying on the long trigger (Glock has a long but light trigger pull and kind of relies on the same thing)- if you do this though, be sure to get a good holster that covers the trigger. Actually, the SA feature of the new guns is why I won't buy one. I have the DAO which I refuse to use the thumb safety on, it would be unsafe to have two guns with a different MOA in the same design- one of which I could use without the safety and one of which I'd need to engage the safety (I would not feel safe using a SA pistol without the safety engaged, longish trigger pull and good holster or not).
I am in no way knocking the quality or reliability of the Taurus PT pistols, but when you chamber a round in the newer, so called SA/DA pistols you are holding a striker fired, fully cocked pistol with no way of decocking it other than by pulling the trigger!
There is no way I'm carrying around a single action, FULLY cocked, striker fired pistol!
When I purchased my PT111 PRO, it was listed a DA/SA. Well, it isn't DA/SA, once you chamber a round, it's always cocked and is always in SA action mode without a decocker and all shots will be single action unless you have a misfire!
I would have felt much better about carrying it with a round in the chamber, if it was DA only, but since it is not, it's gone bye, bye!
JMO
There is no way I'm carrying around a single action, FULLY cocked, striker fired pistol!
When I purchased my PT111 PRO, it was listed a DA/SA. Well, it isn't DA/SA, once you chamber a round, it's always cocked and is always in SA action mode without a decocker and all shots will be single action unless you have a misfire!
I would have felt much better about carrying it with a round in the chamber, if it was DA only, but since it is not, it's gone bye, bye!
JMO
ZeSpectre
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This is a source of concern for me as well because I'm a southpaw and the safety on the 140 isn't especially lefty-friendly so I doubt I'd be using it. So if I use a Mil-Pro that means I'm looking at trusting the trigger and the automatic interrupter safety built into the pistol to keep that striker from doing anything it shouldn't.
Wish they'd make the PT140 Mil-Pro in DAO or with a decocker :banghead:
My PT-145 Millennium Pro has sent over 2000 rounds downrange and has yet to have any problems. Accuracy, right out of the box, just blew me away. It fits my large hands perfectly. I can drop it into a front pocket of my trousers, it disappears, and is not overly heavy there. I carry it daily that way in slacks at the office and have never been "made" by either of the two off duty police officers that are working for me. When one of them saw my CHL, he remarked "I think that if you have a CHL it's a shame that you don't carry concealed". I then pulled out the little Taurus and he was amazed that I had it there and he never noticed it. Both of them now carry PT-145's as off duty BUG's.
You could say my Millennium Pro is my everything, everywhere and everyday gun!!!
tex
You could say my Millennium Pro is my everything, everywhere and everyday gun!!!
tex
patriarch 2
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40 CAL ET AL
AS I UNDERSTAND IT THE 40 CAL WAS DEVELOPED DUE TO THE INADEQUACIES OF THE THEN AVAILABLE 9MM CARTRIDGES, SINCE GREATLY IMPROVED. ANECDOTES ABOUND ON ALL CALIBERS AND FAR FROM TRYING TO INFLUENCE ANYONE FROM OR FOR ANY CALIBER I JUST STATE MY OPINIONS. WHILE BEING VERY JAUNDICED AGAINST MAG ARTICLE WRITERS AWARE OF ADVERTISERS WITHIN I TRY TO GLEAN WHAT IS REALLY TRUE AND WHAT IS HYPED. THE FBI CHOSE THE .357 SIG (PRICEY AMMO) FOR ONE REASON ONLY..ITS ABILITY TO PENETRATE CAR DOORS. ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT TO THEM AFTER THE FAMOUS FLORIDA SHOOTOUT. WATER JUGS AND EVEN GEL DO NOT REPRESENT REAL LIFE SITU'S. WHERE I LIVE ONE MUST CONSIDER THICK JACKET PENETRATION WHERE YOU CAN JUST FORGET ALL THE FOREGOING EVEN THE BEST HP'S ETC. HORNADY XTP'S ADDRESS THIS WITH BULLETS THAT PENETRATE SOME DISTANCE BEFORE EXPANDING. THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT THE SLAM PWR OF A .45 BULL NOSE IS MORE THAN UP TO THE JOB OF PROIVIDING SUFFICIENT SHOCK TO ALTER A THREAT SITUATION. I APPRECIATE ALL THE THREADS ON THIS SUBJ AND FEEL IT IS TIME FOR ME TO SORT OF DROP OFF WHILE CONTINUING TO PERUSE FURTHER OPINIONS. ONE MORE COMMENT; I HAVE SEVERAL FRIENDS IN THE LOCAL POLICE AND SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. TWO OF THEM HAVE HAD TO KILL PERPETRATORS AND THE EVENTS HAVE CHANGED THEM FOREVER. ONE WAS IN A CRAWL SPACE FACING A YOUTH WITH A SHOTGUN.
I TRULY HOPE I AM NEVER FACED WITH ANY SUCH..DID USE A GUN WITHIN MY HOUSE THREE TIMES BUT JUST THE SIGHT OF THE WEAPON/S WAS SUFFICIENT AND NEVER HAD TO PULL THE TRIGGER. CHEERS
AS I UNDERSTAND IT THE 40 CAL WAS DEVELOPED DUE TO THE INADEQUACIES OF THE THEN AVAILABLE 9MM CARTRIDGES, SINCE GREATLY IMPROVED. ANECDOTES ABOUND ON ALL CALIBERS AND FAR FROM TRYING TO INFLUENCE ANYONE FROM OR FOR ANY CALIBER I JUST STATE MY OPINIONS. WHILE BEING VERY JAUNDICED AGAINST MAG ARTICLE WRITERS AWARE OF ADVERTISERS WITHIN I TRY TO GLEAN WHAT IS REALLY TRUE AND WHAT IS HYPED. THE FBI CHOSE THE .357 SIG (PRICEY AMMO) FOR ONE REASON ONLY..ITS ABILITY TO PENETRATE CAR DOORS. ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT TO THEM AFTER THE FAMOUS FLORIDA SHOOTOUT. WATER JUGS AND EVEN GEL DO NOT REPRESENT REAL LIFE SITU'S. WHERE I LIVE ONE MUST CONSIDER THICK JACKET PENETRATION WHERE YOU CAN JUST FORGET ALL THE FOREGOING EVEN THE BEST HP'S ETC. HORNADY XTP'S ADDRESS THIS WITH BULLETS THAT PENETRATE SOME DISTANCE BEFORE EXPANDING. THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT THE SLAM PWR OF A .45 BULL NOSE IS MORE THAN UP TO THE JOB OF PROIVIDING SUFFICIENT SHOCK TO ALTER A THREAT SITUATION. I APPRECIATE ALL THE THREADS ON THIS SUBJ AND FEEL IT IS TIME FOR ME TO SORT OF DROP OFF WHILE CONTINUING TO PERUSE FURTHER OPINIONS. ONE MORE COMMENT; I HAVE SEVERAL FRIENDS IN THE LOCAL POLICE AND SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. TWO OF THEM HAVE HAD TO KILL PERPETRATORS AND THE EVENTS HAVE CHANGED THEM FOREVER. ONE WAS IN A CRAWL SPACE FACING A YOUTH WITH A SHOTGUN.
I TRULY HOPE I AM NEVER FACED WITH ANY SUCH..DID USE A GUN WITHIN MY HOUSE THREE TIMES BUT JUST THE SIGHT OF THE WEAPON/S WAS SUFFICIENT AND NEVER HAD TO PULL THE TRIGGER. CHEERS
That's a shame. I was really thinking about getting a SA/DA PT111. But like you, there is no way I am carrying a chambered and cocked pistol with no way of deactivating it without firing. It's really hard to find a small little pistol that still behaves like a standard DA/SA pistol with a manual safety. I have a Walther P22, and it would be the perfect gun for me if it was in 9mm. It's small, light, has an ambi manual safety, the hammer and safety are not connected like my Ruger P345, and it looks neat, unlike a lot of stubby looking subcompact. What can I say, to me, the look of a gun is important. And I just can't stand awkward looking boxy guns like Glocks and XDs or guns with stubby grips. That P22 is perfect other than it being a .22
But could you please not shout(typing in caps)? We can read normal text just fine 
wally
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I hope you guys who are afraid of the SA/DA Taurus guns are equally fearfull of the Glock. At least the Taurus has a trigger blocking thumb safety that will make you feel better as long as you are a righty.
--wally.
--wally.
Actually you can deactivate it by dropping the magazine and then racking the slide to eject the round in the chamber, but that's kind of a lot of work.
Since I don't own a Glock, I can't speak with authority, but when I shot my Son's Glock, I thought the trigger was safer!
Is the Glock fully cocked when a round is chambered?
Maybe someone that knows more about the Glock trigger will chime in.
Maybe Taurus will get the message and add a decocker.
Manedwolf
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That's why I have the DAO PT-745. I have NO idea why Taurus changed the design. Especially since when riding in a Smartcarry, the side safety can get snapped down. There's no way I'd carry a cocked pistol like that!
I'd say if you see the DAOs anywhere, pick them up...they're likely to get more valuable as people realize this. They can also use Trijicon sights that the newer design can't. It's a "***, Taurus?", to me.
ZeSpectre
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Taurus, Glock, Springfield XD-40... I've been having the same mental issue with all of the (having a cocked striker pin).
Think I'll start a different thread on this though and stop hijacking this one.
wally
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How so?
Depenidng on your definition of "fully" probalby not, but I claim the difference is only academic otherwise swapping the trigger connectors wouldn't make near as much difference in a Glock as it does. I don't think there is anything worth argueing about between my stock Glock trigger and the SA/DA Taurus trigger, but I'd argue since I've put in the 3.5lb connectors my Glocks are not safe to carry, although they are seriously better at the range. Glock will not sell the 3.5lb connectors, you need to get them from a third party maker or by buying one of their "Target" model guns.
All these modern guns have passed various "drop tests". The Glock's main weakness is that its easy to fire if foreign objects press against the trigger -- some holsters have been recalled because the retaining strap can enter the trigger gaurd and fire the gun during holstering. The XD added a grip safety to need a two direction press to pull the trigger, but I'd bet you'd really have to think about it to not activate it when reholstering. The Taurus DAO have all had the thumb safety and its been retained on the SA/DA models but its not very useful for lefities. I wished they had an ambi-option. Taurus has a bewildering array of models and options, if enough people write to ask for a de-cocker or ambi safety I'd not be surprised if one appeared on later guns.
--wally.
No offense kokapelli but that has got to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard.kokapelli said:
What do you think a Glock or an XD are?
And the MilPro has a Safey INCLUDED!
Keep your finger OFF OF THE TRIGGER and you have No Issues.
The New Taurus MilPro SA/DA Series is QUITE safe if You are.
ZeSpectre
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What do you think a Glock or an XD are?
And the MilPro has a Safey INCLUDED!
Keep your finger OFF OF THE TRIGGER and you have No Issues.
The New Taurus MilPro SA/DA Series is QUITE safe if You are.
I've been looking at the diagrams for a Mil-Pro. Here's what I can't figure out from looking at it... Is the firing pin interrupter deactivated by the safety or by the trigger (I.E. if you had a round chambered but manual safety off is the secondary firing pin interrupter still in place?)
And the MilPro has a Safey INCLUDED!
Keep your finger OFF OF THE TRIGGER and you have No Issues.
The New Taurus MilPro SA/DA Series is QUITE safe if You are.
I've been looking at the diagrams for a Mil-Pro. Here's what I can't figure out from looking at it... Is the firing pin interrupter deactivated by the safety or by the trigger (I.E. if you had a round chambered but manual safety off is the secondary firing pin interrupter still in place?)
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The Millennium Pro has several built-in safety features. It is of a single action/double action striker fired design, and has an internal firing pin block that prevents the gun from firing unless the trigger is pulled. This is the primary safety, and all that is necessary. However, in addition to that, the gun has a manual thumb safety that is easily accessible to a right-handed shooter, if he so chooses to engage that safety mechanism.
The Millennium Pro has several built-in safety features. It is of a single action/double action striker fired design, and has an internal firing pin block that prevents the gun from firing unless the trigger is pulled. This is the primary safety, and all that is necessary. However, in addition to that, the gun has a manual thumb safety that is easily accessible to a right-handed shooter, if he so chooses to engage that safety mechanism.
ZeSpectre
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Whoops, you answered my question while I was typing. Thank you for patiently clarifying that point. It's really hard to tell when all you have in front of you is a crappy .PDF diagram :banghead:
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I don't have a Glock, but I do have an XD-9.
If the trigger on the XD catches on something it still will not fire without the grip safety being depressed.
This may sound dumb too, but I'm not at all impressed with the small, hard to find external safety on the PRO. It's just another motion required to get the gun into action and can be easily, accidently clicked off when reholstering!
I replaced my PRO with a CZ PCR and much prefer the decocker arrangement.
We all must find what works best for us and I am much happier with the PCR in feel, accuracy and especially the trigger.
Oh! I almost forgot. The sights on the PCR are much, much better for me and my 74year old eyes.
If the trigger on the XD catches on something it still will not fire without the grip safety being depressed.
This may sound dumb too, but I'm not at all impressed with the small, hard to find external safety on the PRO. It's just another motion required to get the gun into action and can be easily, accidently clicked off when reholstering!
I replaced my PRO with a CZ PCR and much prefer the decocker arrangement.
We all must find what works best for us and I am much happier with the PCR in feel, accuracy and especially the trigger.
Oh! I almost forgot. The sights on the PCR are much, much better for me and my 74year old eyes.
patriarch 2
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MIL PRO .45 ET AL
NO CALIBER IS AND END ALL. ANECDOTES ABOUND..45 CAL BULL NOSE WILL NOT ONLY STOP A THREAT BUT SPIN THE PERP AROUND IF NOT EXACTLY IN CTR. THICKNESS OF CLOTHING IS RARELY MENTIONED IN SPECS/STATS AND WATER JUGS/GEL ARE FAR FROM REALITY MILLENIUM .45/9MM/40 CAL SO NEARLY SAME SIZE AND WT .45 IS MY CHOICE.
CHEERS
NO CALIBER IS AND END ALL. ANECDOTES ABOUND..45 CAL BULL NOSE WILL NOT ONLY STOP A THREAT BUT SPIN THE PERP AROUND IF NOT EXACTLY IN CTR. THICKNESS OF CLOTHING IS RARELY MENTIONED IN SPECS/STATS AND WATER JUGS/GEL ARE FAR FROM REALITY MILLENIUM .45/9MM/40 CAL SO NEARLY SAME SIZE AND WT .45 IS MY CHOICE.
CHEERS
MetalMandsh
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PT 145 Pro- 3 gen.
This pistol is my primary CC piece and I LOVE it.No issues with function after close to 1000 rounds through it in 2 mos.Fit and function are as good as it gets -IMHO- in a compact .45 It travels nicely in a leather Blackhawk CQC compact Askins holster and has a back up High Noon IWB holster carried SOB.
Taurus just keeps on getting it right.
I am still looking for a good compact slide holster for it so any help is appreciated.
This pistol is my primary CC piece and I LOVE it.No issues with function after close to 1000 rounds through it in 2 mos.Fit and function are as good as it gets -IMHO- in a compact .45 It travels nicely in a leather Blackhawk CQC compact Askins holster and has a back up High Noon IWB holster carried SOB.
Taurus just keeps on getting it right.
I am still looking for a good compact slide holster for it so any help is appreciated.
Ukraine Train
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So, you guys that carry carry an SA/DA with a round chambered, do you keep the safety on? Right now I carry a DA/SA gun and I'm comfortable having the safety off with it only half cocked, but I guess in SA the Tauri should still be safe as long as you don't pull the trigger, due to the firing pin block.
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