My brother is a fire captain in TN. He too says fentanyl is absolutly epidemic there, tons of overdoses every day, and were it not for narcan (which is a miracle drug against fentanyl overdose), literally hundreds would be dying every week.
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FROGO207
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On a side note I certainly am glad I live in Maine! Most of the crime here is in the larger cities to the south. Closest to Boston, being close enough to be a bedroom community for work there and dragging problems back here. A lot of the rural folks are armed and will not put up with crap.
I can't begin to count the number of folks I've seen brought back thanks to Narcan. If it wasn't for that stuff dead junkies would be stacked up all over the place.
FROGO207
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One of our volunteer firefighters is a paramedic in Bangor ME. He said that he used Narcan 7 times on the same person on one 12 hour shift! Drugs are bad folks. Sometimes when someone is shot they keep being superman until they bleed out. He has many stories about how drugs keep people from feeling pain when the normal person would give up and stop.
Airborne Falcon
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I'm grimacing with nine different kinds of empathy pain right now.
Also, I was in JC a couple of days after this happened (well, actually Jonesborough and Elizabethton ) and it was definitely big news up there at the time. Everyone fully expected her to walk scott free.
Also, I was in JC a couple of days after this happened (well, actually Jonesborough and Elizabethton ) and it was definitely big news up there at the time. Everyone fully expected her to walk scott free.
The stats are for the incidents per 100,000 population in each state so they're normalized for population. The data is good and the presentation is as generally agreed upon as most meaningful since it presents a rate vs. gross incidents.
Encoreman
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Is that to test to see if they feel pain?? I have heard since I was about 10 that there is a war on drugs in U.S., I am 68 there is a war on drugs like I am a brain surgeon. Too much money to be made by dirty cops, dirty lawyers, dirty judges, dirty politicians. I live about 40 miles from I-40 funny thing the LEO sets up on the West bound side, the money side. They could care less about the drugs. It's all about the money!
Yeah, all those dirty cops sharing that dope money with the dirty judges up and down I-40.
Drilling into the leg bone is not to see if the quickly dying person can feel pain. It's to inject the medicine directly into the bone marrow. From the ones I've witnessed, if the drill bit injection doesn't work you're on your way to the afterlife.
RetiredUSNChief
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I don't think I like the legal odds of that scenario, personally.
There's a whole lotta "nope" in there for me.
There's a whole lotta "nope" in there for me.
I don’t see where population density has anything to do with it. Per capita is simply a given number of something compared to a given number of people. One murder per 100 people in sparsely populated Tennessee is the same per capita as 1,000 murders per 100,000 people in densely populated New York.
Hugger-4641
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No, I don't agree. I only have to walk a block in NY to come in contact with hundreds of people, each of which is an opportunity for an event. In rural TN, I have to put in quite some time and effort to have the same opportunities.
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Virginia is 47 th!
If it wasn't for Norfolk, Hampton, Newport News and Richmond we would be 50th
MY town of 225,000 people had 1 murder all last year!
If it wasn't for Norfolk, Hampton, Newport News and Richmond we would be 50th
MY town of 225,000 people had 1 murder all last year!
Hugger-4641
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That just proves my point that per capita data is not the only factory in violent crime probability. If we removed Memphis and couple others from TN our numbers would be lower also.
Nunbers alone do not give the whole picture.
Here's my logic:
Let say that Yuppyville NY has a population of 10,000 people in a square mile area and they have 100 murders. And, let's say Podunk County TN has a population of 10,000, but the area is 100 square miles and they have 200 murders. The per capata data says Yuppyville is safer, but I'll take my chances in Podunk.
Nunbers alone do not give the whole picture.
Here's my logic:
Let say that Yuppyville NY has a population of 10,000 people in a square mile area and they have 100 murders. And, let's say Podunk County TN has a population of 10,000, but the area is 100 square miles and they have 200 murders. The per capata data says Yuppyville is safer, but I'll take my chances in Podunk.
People may have more opportunity to kill you with a firearm in New York but they’re far more likely to do it in Tennessee. In 2019 1270 people were killed in Tennessee compared to 804 in New York. And because, as you pointed out, New York has so many more people their rate per 100,000 is a fraction of that in Tennessee.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm
I have family in Johnson City and all over East TN from Chattanooga to Bristol. Not surprised it happened or at the outcome. While I agree there was no crime based on what I read in the link (there is often more to the story however), but there was lots of stupid all around.
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These statistics are from 2019. The country is a lot different now than it was then. I believe today's stats would be much different. As one who left illinois in my rear view mirror a few years ago I feel much safer in Tennessee.
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OP:
And so’s you are saying dont go “Clubin’ ?
If we have a gun, then we should avoid the areas where the “10 percent Bonded Out people” hang out?
And so’s you are saying dont go “Clubin’ ?
If we have a gun, then we should avoid the areas where the “10 percent Bonded Out people” hang out?
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RetiredUSNChief
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I don't think that's what he said or implied.
However, if you have a gun (concealed carry, open carry, whatever) then the old adage of "don't do stupid things in stupid places at stupid times with stupid people" applies.
Commonly referred to as "common sense".
Of course, that isn't the full spectrum of responsible behavior for those of us who choose to carry. But it's a significant chunk.
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