Texans beware of Time Warner Cable. Anti-Guns

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Fella's;

"There are employers in a lot of states who encourage their employees to carry at work, but again, not many and virtually none outside of the firearms and related industries"

Virtually none outside of the firearms & related industries? Poppycock my good sir, apparently you're going to be surprised that a very large number of locksmiths carry.

And, on the other point, I'd be willing to bet that my estate could find a lawyer to sue over the fact that I was prohibited, by the business's sign, of the ability to defend myself between my vehicle and their door. The door that has the sign that says I can't bring a legally carried firearm into their business. I'd also hope that the estate's lawyer would have the wit to inform the jury, in closing, that regardless of prior decisions in established law, they have the right to make up their own minds on the merit of this particular set of instances & find as they wish.

900F
 
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CB900F ...And, on the other point, I'd be willing to bet that my estate could find a lawyer to sue over the fact that I was prohibited, by the business's sign, of the ability to defend myself between my vehicle and their door.
The door that has the sign that says I can't bring a legally carried firearm into their business. I'd also hope that the estate's lawyer would have the wit to inform the jury, in closing, that regardless of prior decisions in established law, they have the right to make up their own minds on the merit of this particular set of instances & find as they wish.
I could find a lawyer to sue Al Gore because I actually invented the internet, not him. Hiring a lawyer is easy. Finding a lawyer to file nonsense lawsuits is easy. As long as you have enough $$$$ they happily file suits against anyone, anything or anywhere. You should know that.

The beneficiaries of your estate would need to be complete and total idiots to pursue such a financial black hole.

Good luck, because your estate will be taken for every dollar you had left.....and your estate will get diddly squat. Private property rights trump YOUR right to carry a firearm. You should know that.

Businesses have no responsibility to provide for your security or safety from the criminal actions of others. Bank robbery and you get shot? Tough. You should now that. Slip and fall on a spill that Walmart didn't clean up in a prompt fashion? They'll pay.

Businesses have no responsibility to provide for your well being before you enter their property. Using your legal theory, if I were to come to your front door, you would assume responsibility for my safety and security between my car parked six blocks away and your front door. Ludicrous right? :scrutiny:
 
Dogtown tom;

You should know that in these type of cases, the lawyer agrees up front that you don't pay unless he wins. You should also know that McDonald's got sued, and lost, because they served a hot cup of coffee.

What can happen in a courtroom is often bizarre beyond belief, witness the will of Howard Hughes & the O.J. Simpson trial. But, of course, you know better.

900F
 
if the power company I work for finds a round of ammo or firearm on their property [your vehicle or theirs] it's instant termination ...don't think any large company will allow weapons other than security personal

Let them try, Mississippi has a parking lot law that forbids them from terminating you for having a firearm on their property. There are restrictions, but if they do not meet them exactly then they are opening themselves up for a big lawsuit. If you need the name of a good attorney PM me and I will get it to you.
 
if the power company I work for finds a round of ammo or firearm on their property [your vehicle or theirs] it's instant termination ...don't think any large company will allow weapons other than security personal
TITLE 45. PUBLIC SAFETY AND GOOD ORDER
CHAPTER 9. WEAPONS
RESTRICTIONS UPON LOCAL REGULATION OF FIREARMS OR AMMUNITION

Miss. Code Ann. § 45-9-55 (2013)

§ 45-9-55. Employer not permitted to prohibit transportation or storage of firearms on employer property; exceptions; certain immunity for employer


(1) Except as otherwise provided in subsection (2) of this section, a public or private employer may not establish, maintain, or enforce any policy or rule that has the effect of prohibiting a person from transporting or storing a firearm in a locked vehicle in any parking lot, parking garage, or other designated parking area.

(2) A private employer may prohibit an employee from transporting or storing a firearm in a vehicle in a parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area the employer provides for employees to which access is restricted or limited through the use of a gate, security station or other means of restricting or limiting general public access onto the property.

(3) This section shall not apply to vehicles owned or leased by an employer and used by the employee in the course of his business.

(4) This section does not authorize a person to transport or store a firearm on any premises where the possession of a firearm is prohibited by state or federal law.

(5) A public or private employer shall not be liable in a civil action for damages resulting from or arising out of an occurrence involving the transportation, storage, possession or use of a firearm covered by this section.


Unless #2 applies in your case as in the company has a secured parking area, employers in MS by law, can't tell you that you can't store a firearm in your vehicle. Now it would probably cost a lot of money in court to win a case against it and would probably still turn out bad for you. That is why I wish MS would pass legislation strengthening state preemption, which MS supposedly has but is not very well enforced.

I work for a municipality in MS and there is supposedly a "policy" that says we can't have a firearm in our vehicle on city property. No one has ever been able to show me that on paper. For that reason, I keep a paper copy of the above quoted state law, because we definitely do not have a secured parking area limiting public access. And I have never been shown that I gave up my rights of privacy of my vehicle as my property, as a condition of my voluntary employment, thus I will continue to keep my weapon in my vehicle

I agree with property rights of the owner. But I also believe by asserting those property rights, the property owner should assume the liability for the safety of those on their property. And finally as hypocritical as it will sound, because those property owners will not accept the liability and provide for the safety of me and my family, I will continue to conceal carry in accordance with STATE LAW, which includes legally being able to walk past "No guns" signs (MS enhanced CCW). And when I walk past that sign, my mind set is to protect me and mine only. History has shown how well "gun free" areas work.
 
Thank you for posting the exact law PWHFirefighter, I did not have it on this computer. I do know an attorney who will gladly take a case like that and drive it to closure. If anyone in MS should need his name please PM me and I will get his contact info to you.
 
Dogtown tom;

You should know that in these type of cases, the lawyer agrees up front that you don't pay unless he wins. You should also know that McDonald's got sued, and lost, because they served a hot cup of coffee.

What can happen in a courtroom is often bizarre beyond belief, witness the will of Howard Hughes & the O.J. Simpson trial. But, of course, you know better.

900F

McDonald's coffee was so hot that it caused serious 3rd degree burns to a senior citizen, with O.J. and even with Zimmerman, the much higher burden of proof was on the state to prove that the defendants did it.

The business is within their legal rights to deny people from carrying on their property. People are within their legal rights not to shop or work there. I see nothing that would suggest liability on the businesses part.

If anything and realistically, I'd put my money on a business being sued and losing a jury trail because a Caucasian child, woman, or senior were harmed by a firearm in a pro gun business before anyone would win a case for being injured while being forbidden to carry their firearm in an anti-gun establishment.
 
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Praxidike —

If anything and realistically, I'd put my money on a business being sued and losing a jury trail because a Caucasian child, woman, or senior were harmed by a firearm in a pro gun business before anyone would win a case for being injured while being forbidden to carry their firearm in an anti-gun establishment.

You are likely correct, but the insurance business is highly statistics driven, and I doubt that there are valid statistics demonstrating that prohibiting the legal carriage of firearms contributes to customer or employee safety or vice versa. Hence, I am somewhat reluctant to believe that the insurance industry as a whole would require that we be disarmed.
 
Time Warner is on the block. Cox is trying to buy them,. but TW is courting a buyout from Comcast. Couldn't tell you the official stance of either of them, but I have OC'd in the local Comcast office.

Either way, TW likely won't exist soon, will be absorbed into one of the others.
 
CB900F Dogtown tom;

You should know that in these type of cases, the lawyer agrees up front that you don't pay unless he wins. You should also know that McDonald's got sued, and lost, because they served a hot cup of coffee.

What can happen in a courtroom is often bizarre beyond belief, witness the will of Howard Hughes & the O.J. Simpson trial. But, of course, you know better.
Yes, I do know better. I've sat on six civil court jury trials and my exbrother in law is an attorney specializing in tort defense.

And while McDonalds did pay big $$$$$.........that occured when the customer was on their property.......your claiming injury when you haven't even walked in the door!
Attorneys who work on contingency (ie free unless you win) are 99% personal injury cases.....car wrecks, slip and falls, product negligence.

A case where your estate sues for "failure to protect me before I even walk in the door" will never make it to trial.......the defense will bleed your estate dry if you are paying by the hour.....happens all the time.

Lawyers who specialize in personal injury desire defendents with deep pockets, who have a history of settling out of court. It would be naive to believe it will be easy to find one to work on contingency for a dog of a case such as this.


Almost all of these type of cases never make it to a trial, much less a jury......they settle OOC at best, or dismissed when the defense shows that under current law there is no duty to protect somone who
A. Isn't on their property
B. Is not involved in a business transaction when the crime occured.
C. Had the free will to shop elsewhere.
D. From a criminal act perpetrated by someone not employed by that business.

Furthur, bringing suits such as this may cost your estate dearly when a counter claim is filed. Try this nonsense with me (ie sue me when you aren't even in my place of business) and I'll slap you with a countersuit so fast your attorney will be screaming "I told you so!!!!" as he skeedaddles away.

If you don't like a businesses policies don't patronize them. It's that simple.
 
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