Texas home owner kills burglers while on the phone with 911

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I saw this on the news a few days back. They suggested he shot them as they were fleeing the neighbors house.


If that's the case, according to the law - it would be questionable or illegal in most of the country, if not all of the country.


Depends on Texas law of course. As always, it is impossible to discuss anything based on media reports. Our media is so bad, so rotten to the core in order to entertain that FACTS are difficult to get. Either omitted or exaggerated to enhance the story.
 
This has already been discussed a great deal. Check the legal forum. As it is, he shot the men in the front, hence, not fleeing.
 
Fortunately we have the same rules in Georgia. Nothing's going to happen to him according to the letter of the law. The only thing that he did was broadcast what he was going to do and actually went and did it.
 
Deep doo doo

I heard the audio of that incident on the news the other day....This guy is in DEEP trouble,,,and he probably should be....While talking to the operator he didn't say...I'm going to stop them...he said...I'm going to KILL them...and that's what he did....The operator was repeating over and over...DON'T go out there with your weapon...the police are on the way and they might shoot YOU !....He wasn't listening....Gonna be kinda hard to defend in court when it's on tape you saying..." I'm going to kill them "...The world is probably a better place with the two *******s that he blasted gone for good....but that guy is in serious trouble...
 
Gonna be kinda hard to defend in court when it's on tape you saying..." I'm going to kill them "...The world is probably a better place with the two *******s that he blasted gone for good....but that guy is in serious trouble...
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Probably not. As well discussed in the legal thread, everything he did was well inside Texas law. He's a moron for running his mouth, but the Grand Jury will have to look at the penal code.

Will be interesting but I suspect he'll walk.
 
I personally think that he was within his rights to protect his neighbors and his own property.....

but I think his recorded comments to the 911 dispatcher are going to make it very difficult for him to sell it as self defense.....

My personal lessons learned.....

1. I won't put my life in jeopordy or kill another soul for the want of protecting stuff.....

but we don't know if the whole neighborhood was being "terrorized" by this kind of bold daylight B&E.... so their may have been more on the line in this guys mind (his sense of being safe and secure in his own home) than just material possessions. That's another issue entirely.

2. If your ever in contact with the police, chose your words very, very carefully.......

apart from his 911 call, the only side of the story to be told was his.
 
Well, we'll see but if I had to bet and this thing went before a jury. I don't think they're going to be too sympathetic to a couple of no good, dead burglars. There was a time when some people could stand by and have a more understanding attitude towards the criminally disadvantaged but nowadays money and your own personal possessions are harder to come by and hold onto.

As I write this, some crooks just ried to rob an armored car at a nearby mall. They don't stop.
 
going to make it very difficult for him to sell it as self defense
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He does not have to sell this as self defense in any way. He used deadly force to stop the commission of a felony.
Self defense has nothing to do with this.

And as mentioned, he didn't shoot them in the back while they were fleeing.
 
He does not have to sell this as self defense in any way.
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I'm not saying he does "need" to justify self defense and I understand that Texas has some of the best "use of deadly force" laws in the country....

but, the guy stated...

"I had no choice,"
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which some could interpret as implying a fear for personal safety.

I think he had a choice....and made his choice....

whether that choice was legal or moral is a different subject altogether.

I personally am inclined to think that it was legal (based on my limitted understanding of Texas law...you who live their will certainly know better)....and will withhold judgement on the moral question, as I don't know the whole story.
 
Based on what I know, I wouldnt have acted the same as he did. But, if I was his neighbor, I'd buy him a beer and a box of shells.

Prosecuting Horn could prove difficult in Texas, where few people sympathize with criminals...
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I wish there was a little more of that goin around.
 
I think I'll reserve judgement after it makes it's way through the legal system. My sense is that his life was not in danger when he called 911.
 
My sense is that his life was not in danger when he called 911.
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That was not the issue. The question is whether under Texas law he was lawfully preventing the commission of a felony. Please, y'all, go back and reread the thread that's already been done about this. The grand jury will decide when it decides. Usually doesn't take them too long on SD/HD cases, so be patient.

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