The F.B.I. Knocked on my door yesterday

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If suited..depends on my mood or if I were involved in something. Other factors come into play. Should they be The Bible Folks out to convert a sinner, no answer..OTOH, if they were holding balloons and a large check in my name for $10,000,000, I'd answer.

If they saw me eyeballing them, and were suited sans balloons, I'd go with my original answer: Confirm ID via phone or internet, with badge # and photo.. talk on the porch. Me inside the iron gate..them on the other side. With trusty Fido at my side. An affable pooch, unless I instruct him to be combative.

Take Care
 
NineseveN said:
How nice of you to explain, wasn't very well-intentioned though as I take it.

I'll bow out of discussion with you for the time being, perhaps one of us will grow up sometime soon so we can refrain from dragging this topic into the dirt even further. I have a terrible proclivity to get nasty, so I'll respectfully nip it in the bud right here.

Thanks for the discourse.

No problem. When you do, I'll be here.
 
I would be very suprised if there was even 1 member of this site that wasn't registered to vote.
I'd take that bet. Plenty of THR members have stated before that they have not voted in elections, or refused to vote for certain offices, based on their belief that they had no candidates worthy of casting a ballot for ...

Of course, that makes them part of the problem, rather than part of the solution.
 
Old Dog,

The last presidential election, I was flummoxed because neither major party had chosen a candidate that I felt was a worthy choice to command this nations highest office. What am I to do, cast a vote for someone I strongly believe is a poor choice to be president, simply because the only viable alternative is slightly more objectionable? Talk about d4mned if you do, d4mned if you don't! I ended up writing in a candidate of my own choice, who would have made a good president imho. Not a snowball's chance in h3LL he'd win, but I won't knowingly add my vote a bad choice, simply because it was the lesser of evils. To me, people who do so ARE PART OF THE REAL PROBLEM.
 
Kermit911 said:
It was around 9:30pm in Jersey and this guy knocks on my front door. So I looked through the windows and he held a badge up to the window. Well I don't use my front door so I have a DVD rack blocking it. I asked him, can I help you? He said he would like to have a few words with me, and if I could open the door. I told him to go to the side door. So I met him at the side door. I open the door and there are 6 guys standing there. :what: I though Thats it!! My dumb ass falls for the oldest trick in the book and I was going to get robed. :banghead:

The main guy, he had his badge on his belt. The other 5 had there badges around there neck. They Dress real nice. The main guy came up to the door and ask If I lived here. I said yea. He asked if anyone els lived here. I said my wife. I noticed the other 5 guys huddling around one another. They were looking at a sketch not a picture. I asked the main guy what this was about. He asked How long have you lived here? I told him about 6 months. He looked a little surprised.

He asked me if I new whear the previous owner of the house is living now. I told him no, but I have been getting a lot of mail for him that I have been sending back to sender. I new that a few letters I got for him were Summons to appear in court. He said thanx for your help and he started to walk away. I closed the door and watched them from a window. One of them wrote down my Licens Plate # and then they left in this Big Suberban I think. Nice Truck.

Here is a question. If six guys are at your front door saying they are the FBI, and you have no idea what an FBI badge looks like. Would you answer the door with a gun on you? :confused:

Thanx
Kermit

If would normally answer the door with a holstered weapon, I see no difference in this case if your legally allowed to do so. As as your not pointing it at them they should not care, IMO.

After all, there are SIX of them, all armed, standing in front of you. It's only fair. Not everyone is who they say they are.
 
bruss01 said:
What am I to do, cast a vote for someone I strongly believe is a poor choice to be president, simply because the only viable alternative is slightly more objectionable?

Remember the unelectable Ross Perot? Both parties changed their platforms significantly in response to the number of voters who were initially attracted to him. Not enough votors to win, but enough to influence parties and presidencies. I don't think Clinton would have had much to say or do about the deficit had it not been for Perot's surprising initial following.

Now, let's not get distracted with which politician or party is worse (it's like calling the tick prettier than the mosquito when both of 'em are anchored to your tender skin). My point is that the unelectable third party candidate can and, at least in that one instance, did cause a significant change to national policy without even getting elected. Was that a vote wasted?
 
WayneConrad said:
Remember the unelectable Ross Perot? Both parties changed their platforms significantly in response to the number of voters who were initially attracted to him. Not enough votors to win, but enough to influence parties and presidencies. I don't think Clinton would have had much to say or do about the deficit had it not been for Perot's surprising initial following.

Now, let's not get distracted with which politician or party is worse (it's like calling the tick prettier than the mosquito when both of 'em are anchored to your tender skin). My point is that the unelectable third party candidate can and, at least in that one instance, did cause a significant change to national policy without even getting elected. Was that a vote wasted?

Yes, that vote was wasted. It was plainly clear that earboy was not electable. All a vote for Perot accomplished was to get Clinton in the White House.

Third party candidates are walking jokes.
 
"Third party candidates are walking jokes."

In the case of my good friend Kinky Friedman, that's literally correct! With two months to gather 45,000 signatures, the Kinkster could be on the ballot in November.

His slogan: "Kinky For Governor. Why The Hell Not?" hits home to many a Texan.

His plan to eliminate illegal aliens is to have several Mexican generals..each responsible for 100 miles of Texas/Mexico border. Each General will have $1,000,000 deposited in a Texas bank in their name. Every time an illegal is nabbed, the General responsible for that section will have $500 removed from his account. Given the 1,000's that cross over illegally every year...well, you get the idea.

Take Care
 
beaucoup ammo said:
In the case of my good friend Kinky Friedman, that's literally correct! With two months to gather 45,000 signatures, the Kinkster could be on the ballot in November.

His slogan: "Kinky For Governor. Why The Hell Not?" hits home to many a Texan.

His plan to eliminate illegal aliens is to have several Mexican generals..each responsible for 100 miles of Texas/Mexico border. Each General will have $1,000,000 deposited in a Texas bank in their name. Every time an illegal is nabbed, the General responsible for that section will have $500 removed from his account. Given the 1,000's that cross over illegally every year...well, you get the idea.

Take Care

You know...I have to admit. I like that campaign slogan.:)
 
Optical Serenity said:
Unfortunately for you it is not up to you what laws to follow or not. This ridiculous way of thinking is for people who want to end up in prison. If you do not like the laws, petition your elected officials to change them.
But what if they don't get changed? What then? Are you saying I must succumb to a life of servitude & slavery?

Not me. I won't live as a slave.

Optical Serenity said:
Otherwise, you absolutely do have to abide by them.
Not true. While it's all well & good to be a law-abiding citizen, there are things more important than written laws. Just ask Rosa Parks. And the law-breaking Minutemen at Concord.

Some laws need to be broken.

Optical Serenity said:
When your boss tells you to do something at work, do you decide if you should or not based on some system you have devised on what work you will do?
Bad analogy. My boss has absolutely no real power over me. None. Nada. Zip. Zero. I am free to quit, and he is free to fire me. But he cannot force or coerce me to do anything.

There is only one thing that has power over an individual: government.
 
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M-Rex said:
Third party candidates are walking jokes.

Thus we will never have any clarion voices in the parties we have in power right now. Since if you don't carry the agenda of the party you are in, you cannot ascend the power structure and receive financing (unless you are yourself wealthy like Perot was). So with that line of reason we are forever secured with 2 parties extending 2 points of view, often that are similar and both with an agenda of self preservation in never shrinking government size and spending. Great.:rolleyes:
 
Bad analogy. My boss has absolutely no real power over me. None. Nada. Zip. Zero. I am free to quit, and he is free to fire me. But he cannot force or coerce me to do anything.
Why is it a bad analogy? I don't think so. Here, you are free to move from your present city, county and state to anywhere else in the country or world you so choose ... if you want to move somewhere where there may be fewer or better laws. Nobody is "coercing" you to stay where you are ... What's the difference?
 
The Mexican Govt is okay with Kinky giving orders to their Generals?

Heck, the Mexican President wants those workers getting across.

My plan has us dropping them off far enough away they can't get back easily. Somalia, maybe. Lot of contractor work needed in Iraq. Wherever, but you can bet your butt I wouldn't drop em back off where they just came from.
 
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