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AStone
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Now, don't you feel better having made that decision? So logical. Such simple guns compared to, say, AR's.
AStone
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Best and worst ammo in your 39?
I'm particularly interested to learn if anyone else has FT fire issues with CCI.
I am having that issue with CCI (at least).
My smith tells me that Remington Cyclone and Federal Power Point (made any longer?) works best.
Haven't tried either. (Long story why.)
Any suggestions?
I'm particularly interested to learn if anyone else has FT fire issues with CCI.
I am having that issue with CCI (at least).
My smith tells me that Remington Cyclone and Federal Power Point (made any longer?) works best.
Haven't tried either. (Long story why.)
Any suggestions?
I've never had FTF with any ammo, aside from the assorted dud rounds, mostly with the bulk stuff.
Actually, CCI Standard Velocity and Green Tag are two of the most accurate types in my 39A.
General consensus I seem to read everywhere is that CCI ammo is some of the best, short of some of the match stuff. RWS, Eley, Wolf, etc.
Actually, CCI Standard Velocity and Green Tag are two of the most accurate types in my 39A.
General consensus I seem to read everywhere is that CCI ammo is some of the best, short of some of the match stuff. RWS, Eley, Wolf, etc.
Soft Rifle Case
I recently sold my beloved Mounty, and my like-new soft (40") case does not fit my other rifle. It's a Midway case, at $39.55. I wonder if any one here would like to have it, for $30 shipped.
Pete
Edit - I found a home for it - Thanks
Pete
I recently sold my beloved Mounty, and my like-new soft (40") case does not fit my other rifle. It's a Midway case, at $39.55. I wonder if any one here would like to have it, for $30 shipped.
Pete
Edit - I found a home for it - Thanks
Pete
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tubeshooter
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My ammo experiences match SGW42's (once fixed).
When I was having 39a problems, I would see lots of FTEs and had trouble getting the tube mag sleeve to lock back in sometimes. I can't tell exactly what they did, but I think the takedown screw hole was not drilled far enough is my best guess.
They also appear to have tuned up the trigger a little for my trouble - though I'm not 100% certain on that either.
This was 3 years ago. No real problems since. I started having some weak extraction after about 2500 rounds without cleaning; cleaned up paying special attention to where a ring would form in the chamber and no more weak extraction.
I see a lot more "from the factory" rifles with issues lately than in the past, which saddens me.
When I was having 39a problems, I would see lots of FTEs and had trouble getting the tube mag sleeve to lock back in sometimes. I can't tell exactly what they did, but I think the takedown screw hole was not drilled far enough is my best guess.
They also appear to have tuned up the trigger a little for my trouble - though I'm not 100% certain on that either.
This was 3 years ago. No real problems since. I started having some weak extraction after about 2500 rounds without cleaning; cleaned up paying special attention to where a ring would form in the chamber and no more weak extraction.
I see a lot more "from the factory" rifles with issues lately than in the past, which saddens me.
AStone
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Just to clarify, Tube: mine is a failure to fire issue, not failure to feed or eject. Both the latter functions are fine.
For the record, though, I found a sticky on Marlin Owners about the failure to eject issue.
For the record, though, I found a sticky on Marlin Owners about the failure to eject issue.
I have owned a number of .22's, only two levers, the first was a M39A "Mountie", that little gun put a lot of meat on the table, my youngest son (43 yrs old) has it now. The other is a M39A "Golden", bought in 1974, only had about 250 rds. through it, still like new and a joy to behold!!
AStone
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Thread on MoF re failure to fire and failure to eject
Welcome, Topkick. Nice story.
Earlier today, I found (with help) a thread on MoF about the failure to fire issue. It's stickied in rimfire; not sure how I missed it before. (Not paying attention, I guess.)
The OP in that post is pretty unhappy with his 39 (understandably), as are a few other posters. Seems that quality control at Marlin may have been suffering for a while.
Club members here might want to wander over and read that thread.
I may try the suggestions in the OP for my FTF issue, but want to understand more about the consequences of doing that process before jumping in. Opinions invited.
Nem
Welcome, Topkick. Nice story.
Earlier today, I found (with help) a thread on MoF about the failure to fire issue. It's stickied in rimfire; not sure how I missed it before. (Not paying attention, I guess.)
The OP in that post is pretty unhappy with his 39 (understandably), as are a few other posters. Seems that quality control at Marlin may have been suffering for a while.
Club members here might want to wander over and read that thread.
I may try the suggestions in the OP for my FTF issue, but want to understand more about the consequences of doing that process before jumping in. Opinions invited.
Nem
Griff56
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Well, this is an interesting thing for me. I am a cowboy action shooter and have all the guns to
prove it. I got to talking with some like minded fellows on another forum and we got to talking .22s. I do not have one at the present, but like most I cut my teeth on on many many years ago. I have an old rolling block Remington #4 in .22 that my Grandfather used to kill hogs waaay back. I do not shoot it for obvious reasons.
Anyway, I got to talking with my friend who lives on the other side of the country and he happen to have an extra 39A Marlin, like new that he wanted me to have. So I sent him a
check and I am awaiting the gun to arrive. I will give you an update when I see it and have a
chance to shoot it. Those things are scarce and hard to find. I was going to shoot with a group at my gun range but they gave it up so now I am looking for some format to shoot it against.
Will report later
prove it. I got to talking with some like minded fellows on another forum and we got to talking .22s. I do not have one at the present, but like most I cut my teeth on on many many years ago. I have an old rolling block Remington #4 in .22 that my Grandfather used to kill hogs waaay back. I do not shoot it for obvious reasons.
Anyway, I got to talking with my friend who lives on the other side of the country and he happen to have an extra 39A Marlin, like new that he wanted me to have. So I sent him a
check and I am awaiting the gun to arrive. I will give you an update when I see it and have a
chance to shoot it. Those things are scarce and hard to find. I was going to shoot with a group at my gun range but they gave it up so now I am looking for some format to shoot it against.
Will report later
arnie08515
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Thinking of buying a new 39A but worried about the quality. Looked for a used one but I can't find a used one in my area at all --- totally nothing. I can order a new one though easily. The price difference isn't that much. Seems like nobody every trades them in.
Should go ahead and get a new one, is the quality the same as the older models???
Should go ahead and get a new one, is the quality the same as the older models???
AStone
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As you'll see, Arnie, from the threads that I linked above, there seems to be some question about that right now, unfortunately.
I'm not saying it's not good; but some problems do seem to be popping up.
ShakyJake
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Hi Nem,
Been following your situation with your M39 here and on MOF. Hope things work out for you soon. Had reviewed at one time the fixes in the Sticky MOF. Most who have tried them have reported positive results. Have you tried polishing the firing pin and the channel in which it rides and look that the hammer is not scraping on one side as it is released. By the way I do not lubridate my firing pin except to wipe it with an oily wipe. With all this did you resolve the scope issue? Bummer when your shooting time is limited and you got to deal with "stuff". How did it work the last time you shot it? Or can you remember back that far.
TaKe CaRe
Ted
Been following your situation with your M39 here and on MOF. Hope things work out for you soon. Had reviewed at one time the fixes in the Sticky MOF. Most who have tried them have reported positive results. Have you tried polishing the firing pin and the channel in which it rides and look that the hammer is not scraping on one side as it is released. By the way I do not lubridate my firing pin except to wipe it with an oily wipe. With all this did you resolve the scope issue? Bummer when your shooting time is limited and you got to deal with "stuff". How did it work the last time you shot it? Or can you remember back that far.
TaKe CaRe
Ted
JustsayMo
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Griff wrote: "I was going to shoot with a group at my gun range but they gave it up so now I am looking for some format to shoot it against.
If you'd like to give Cowboy Silhouette a go there are matches in Custer (north of Bellingham) and Tonasket. I believe there is another match in the south Sound area too.
I go whenever I can - way too much fun. Marlin 39's are the most common.
If you'd like to give Cowboy Silhouette a go there are matches in Custer (north of Bellingham) and Tonasket. I believe there is another match in the south Sound area too.
I go whenever I can - way too much fun. Marlin 39's are the most common.
vaupet
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new marlin 39a
just bought a marlin 39 a as a training substitute for my 336 cs after reading lots of reviews.
had to order one (bought it without really seeing it) as no gunstore in Belgium keeps them in stock.
waited for 4 weeks, paid 620 € (880$)
after a first round of shooting took it down for a good cleaning
>> te screw wich holds the extractor only has one thread, so you have to turn it clockwise, or it jumps out: very flimsy
after i put it back together i experienced FTF and FTE, probably because I didn't fasten the take-down screw really hard.
I am disappointed by the trigger: if you scweeze it gently, you get a FTF because of the halfway safety, you practically have to yerk on the trigger to be sure you fire.
Also disappointing: no drilling in the receiver to mount a peep-sight
on afterthougt, I paid way to much for this rifle
greetz
peter
just bought a marlin 39 a as a training substitute for my 336 cs after reading lots of reviews.
had to order one (bought it without really seeing it) as no gunstore in Belgium keeps them in stock.
waited for 4 weeks, paid 620 € (880$)
after a first round of shooting took it down for a good cleaning
>> te screw wich holds the extractor only has one thread, so you have to turn it clockwise, or it jumps out: very flimsy
after i put it back together i experienced FTF and FTE, probably because I didn't fasten the take-down screw really hard.
I am disappointed by the trigger: if you scweeze it gently, you get a FTF because of the halfway safety, you practically have to yerk on the trigger to be sure you fire.
Also disappointing: no drilling in the receiver to mount a peep-sight
on afterthougt, I paid way to much for this rifle
greetz
peter
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Griff56
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I just might have to make a run up there when it arrives. Thanks for the info JustsayMo.
Looks like some cowboys in that crowd. My kind of folks.
Looks like some cowboys in that crowd. My kind of folks.
Rollis R. Karvellis
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Well the factory has started to move on the repairs of my 39a, which means that my smith and I, have spoken to a human being. I am hopeful that befor the end of the year it will be done.
Nem. I see that you are starting to flert with AR's, just a piece of advice, STOP! it's a road of madness you going to go down, stop right now befor you find out......HOW GOOD IT FEELS.
Nem. I see that you are starting to flert with AR's, just a piece of advice, STOP! it's a road of madness you going to go down, stop right now befor you find out......HOW GOOD IT FEELS.
AStone
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LOL!
Too late, Rollis. Much too late. Not a done deal yet, but no turning back now ...
Vaupet, sorry to hear of your disappointment with your new 39. Hope we can help.
What do you mean by "the halfway safety"? I don't understand that part.
vaupet
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instead of the hammer slamming on the firing pin, it just gets stuck in the half-cocked position
maybe i'm just used to other stuff (hammerli 280 pistol and anschutz 64 rifle match grade weapons and HK USP pistol) but my 336 in 30-30 never had a single problem or failure
maybe i'm just used to other stuff (hammerli 280 pistol and anschutz 64 rifle match grade weapons and HK USP pistol) but my 336 in 30-30 never had a single problem or failure
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AStone
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Peter, thanks for your clarification.
I understand your concerns, especially since you don't live in the US (so acquisition and repair is already a hassle - sounds like you're in Belgium, or at least western Europe) and that you seem to appreciate fine guns - your 39 is going to live in good company with the Anschutz around - but good that you've had good experience with your 336 and understand it. That's going to make a solution easier.
I may not be the one to offer solutions to your issue, but there are others here far more knowledgeable about the 39's than me. (I just started this club so I could learn from them.
So, to make sure we all understand the problem, a couple of more questions for you, please.
Please pardon the simplicity of my questions, but we should start with basics.
Other than that, I confess I can't understand why the hammer would stick. What could it be sticking on? I'm not doubting that it is, just trying to parse what's doing it.
Does it do that every time you pull trigger (by the way, don't dry fire it), or just sometimes? If the latter, how often? What proportion of shots?
And when it gets stuck on half-cock, what happens if you pull the hammer back and fire again? Same thing?
Any thing you can do to help us visualize this issue will help us offer suggestions. Be as detailed in your description as possible, and we'll understand that English may be your second language. (Even though the reason I'm having trouble understanding your problem is due to not enough info yet, not your use of the language.)
Nem
I understand your concerns, especially since you don't live in the US (so acquisition and repair is already a hassle - sounds like you're in Belgium, or at least western Europe) and that you seem to appreciate fine guns - your 39 is going to live in good company with the Anschutz around
- but good that you've had good experience with your 336 and understand it. That's going to make a solution easier.I may not be the one to offer solutions to your issue, but there are others here far more knowledgeable about the 39's than me. (I just started this club so I could learn from them.
So, to make sure we all understand the problem, a couple of more questions for you, please.
Please pardon the simplicity of my questions, but we should start with basics.
OK, clearly this can't be as simple as the cross-bolt safety being on, right? I'm asking because if your 336 is a pre-safety, you may have overlooked the one on the 39a. Unlikely to be sure, but better to check.
Other than that, I confess I can't understand why the hammer would stick. What could it be sticking on? I'm not doubting that it is, just trying to parse what's doing it.
Does it do that every time you pull trigger (by the way, don't dry fire it), or just sometimes? If the latter, how often? What proportion of shots?
And when it gets stuck on half-cock, what happens if you pull the hammer back and fire again? Same thing?
Any thing you can do to help us visualize this issue will help us offer suggestions. Be as detailed in your description as possible, and we'll understand that English may be your second language. (Even though the reason I'm having trouble understanding your problem is due to not enough info yet, not your use of the language.)
Nem
Marlin 1897 Cowboy.22
Hello,I love to read about Marlin.22"s because my first rifle was a Marlin 39 or 39A? Anyways I loved that rifle and my fondest childhood memories were of that gun & camping & hunting w/it. Now I just bought a like new Marlin 1897 cowboy.22 but I have not recieved it from a seller on gunbroker.com: I should get it next week and I cant wait! I would like a copy of the owners manual.Can anyone help me find one? Can someone tell me about this sweet rifle? Is the workings the same as the model 39"s? Thanks for your input.-Tim:banghead:
Hello,I love to read about Marlin.22"s because my first rifle was a Marlin 39 or 39A? Anyways I loved that rifle and my fondest childhood memories were of that gun & camping & hunting w/it. Now I just bought a like new Marlin 1897 cowboy.22 but I have not recieved it from a seller on gunbroker.com: I should get it next week and I cant wait! I would like a copy of the owners manual.Can anyone help me find one? Can someone tell me about this sweet rifle? Is the workings the same as the model 39"s? Thanks for your input.-Tim:banghead:
LastRebel
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Another 39A Owner
Greetings All -
As a boy, I carried my Dad's 39A for many, many hours while we hunted together. He passed away several years ago and the rifle he owned migrated into my sister's possession. To her, it's just a rifle, although she does have enough sense to NEVER get rid of it.
I decided that it was time to get one of my own to help rekindle fond memories I have of all those hours my Dad and I spent in the woods hunting together. I really wanted something around the same year model as what he had. I found a '75 model recently and bought it immediately. I'm looking forward to spending many more hours with it before it passes to my son.
I've learned as I've grown older, there are few things in life that no one can ever take from you if they decide to. Memories are one of those. I'm certain I'll recall things we shared together as I walk alone now with the rifle that started it all for me.
Here's to a great rifle with greater memories.
Last Rebel
Greetings All -
As a boy, I carried my Dad's 39A for many, many hours while we hunted together. He passed away several years ago and the rifle he owned migrated into my sister's possession. To her, it's just a rifle, although she does have enough sense to NEVER get rid of it.
I decided that it was time to get one of my own to help rekindle fond memories I have of all those hours my Dad and I spent in the woods hunting together. I really wanted something around the same year model as what he had. I found a '75 model recently and bought it immediately. I'm looking forward to spending many more hours with it before it passes to my son.
I've learned as I've grown older, there are few things in life that no one can ever take from you if they decide to. Memories are one of those. I'm certain I'll recall things we shared together as I walk alone now with the rifle that started it all for me.
Here's to a great rifle with greater memories.
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