The Maryland AWB of 2007

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Spot77 & Norton - Just got your package in the mail, about to go find a good spot on our cars to stick 'em to. Once again, thanks alot and if there's any volunteer work me or my fiancee can do until we send in our actual membership dues do not hesitate to let us know.
 
Rolmulus, WAMU is backtracking BIG TIME......I called and had a discussion with a girl named Lisa that claims that they didn't even read a story on SB 43 now <lol> I told her that I would NEVER EVER EVER make another contribution towards WAMU and that I was going to make that clear to the Donations/Membership Committee if they did not issue a followup with correct info and then proceeded to give her the correct info 210 opponents, less than 10 proponents all paid pros from Ceasfire blah blah except for 1 victim from 14 years ago who happened to be related to the Pres of one of the Anti-Groups...blah blah.

It got her attention when I vowed to never contribute to the station ever again due to false and biased news reports....
 
If anybody is close to a radio, turn on 1090AM. Helmetcase (progunprogressive) is about to be interviewed by Ron Smith about the AWB!

ETA: and he's reading my letter! :) . . . hmm, it seemed like it was written better, and less vitriolic at 2am when I wrote it:eek:
 
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I also received a nice, fair response from Senator Raskin and I hope that we'll find a fair balance in our shared goals of crime fighting.
 
Keeping the Momentum Going

Sending out the letter versions of my email tonight, as a followup. Since Senator Jacobs was kind enough to respond positively already, I added a handwritten thanks to my letter to her, and asked her to put me on her campaign mailing list. :evil:

Michael

Norton/Spot - thanks for the MSI info, I sent Henry my membership dues and a nice donation to cover my tardiness. :) I sent via mail, as Paypal isn't a friend to gunnies if I recall....
 
Got my own response from Sen. Jacobs

Jay,

Thank you for your email. At yesterday’s hearing we had an excellent turnout of people that were against SB 43. I can almost assure you that SB 43 will be killed in committee.

I hope you stay interested in shooting.

Nancy

Very nice lady, and exactly the kind of person we need in there representing us. Like MDHunter, I've sent her back a personal thank-you for her quick and personal response.

Glad Raskin has been replying so moderately, perhaps he's beginning to come out of the coma some of the anti's have been spinning around our representatives.. I sense only good things ahead!
 
Keep Posting the Responses!

Nice letter Kingpin!

Keep posting the responses we receive guys and gals....so we can keep track of who's with us or not, and be sure to send follow up thank you letters to our supporters! That goes a long way, versus dropping them like a tool when we're done with them.

Michael
 
I sent a fresh round of emails last night after reading the results of the hearing, and the response from Sen. Jacobs is actually referring to a completely seperate email I sent from her site this afternoon! I still haven't heard back from most of the senators, period. Robey sent me that little love note I posted a few pages back, I think Raskin sent me one that was leaning towards the anti-side, but nothing new since the latest rounds.

Will definetly post any new ones though. I can't wait to hear the actual "verdict" as it were..almost like christmas, heh.
 
Hey guys,
Glad somebody heard me on Ron's show today. He's firmly in our camp, hopefully he'll keep giving us airtime. The biggest thing we face is the average gun owner thinking "gee, this is just a machine gun ban, it won't affect me." We need to show the gun banners they over-reached.

Here's my writeup on my my convo with Ron Smith: http://progunprogressive.com/?p=332

Me! said:
I dunno if anyone caught it, but Ron Smith (WBAL 1090) gave me about fifteen minutes airtime this afternoon to talk about the pending AWB in Annapolis.

We talked about the fact that the bill doesn’t just ban evil black rifles, but essentially every gun in the state of MD. Ron likened SB43 to the DC gun ban, and I suggested that he’s largely correct. If it passed, essentially everything but a breech loader shotgun for pheasant hunting is banned! I further stipulated that the single biggest problem we have is the misinformed gun owner–all too many think SB43 is merely banning machine guns. Ed Norris’s show today was a load of baloney about “what do you need with a machine gun, what sporting purpose do they have, etc”. We need to fight that mentality constantly and educate people.

Ron’s a big supporter of our pro-2A efforts, and you should write him to thank him for his efforts on our behalf (he’s at rsmith AT wbal.com).

Some talking points:

Myth–The AWB only covers evil machine guns you don’t need.

FACT: It’ll ban any semiauto pistol that’ll accept a threaded barrel, which is essentially every pistol made since John Moses Browning.

Myth: You don’t need a fully auto weapon.

FACT: Since the NFA of 1934 (which, in a great civic compromise, even the NRA accepts as legit), access to machine guns and fully auto weapons is incredibly tightly regulated.

This bill isn’t banning street sweeping fully auto weapons. It’s banning single shot per single trigger pull semi auto weapons. If you take one thing away from this debate, it’s that anyone talking about how you don’t need a machine gun is a misinformed jackanape who you should not trust with your freedoms.

For the last galldarned time, this bill is NOT about banning machine guns. It’s about banning single shot rifles and pistols that 80 million law abiding Americans own and use legitimate for sport and self defense, EVERY SINGLE DAY.

Besides, it ain’t about needs. You don’t need a big screen TV, a cruise vacation, or an SUV (which, BTW, kill way more people than all rifles combined, not just so-called assault rifles).

It’s about rights, and the right to self defense is the right that makes all other rights possible.

Myth: We need to reduce the supply of these weapons.

FACT: Baloney. That’s like saying the solution to global warming is getting us all to quit using lawn mowers. You’re ignoring the actual root causes of the problem and considering only a miniscule fraction of the actual issue. Even the very anti-gun folks at the BATF will tell you that so-called assault rifles are used in about 1% of gun crime. Crooks do NOT use assault weapons, they use handguns, and to a lesser extent, shotguns. They use cheap, concealable, readily available guns, not super exotic, expensive, $1300 rifles that are rare and impossible to conceal.

The ban won’t reduce the supply–they’ll still be for sale elsewhere. Even when we had a Federal AWB, the bad guys still found ways to find these types of firearms. Manufacturers will find ways to build ban compliant weapons, and you’ll simply create a black market for the hundreds of thousands of rifles already produced, or the rifles found in other countries.

You can NOT make guns simply stop existing with SB43.

Myth: Yeah, but there are no sporting or self defense purposes for AR15s and semiauto variants of other “assault rifles”.

FACT: The AR15 is the most commonly used rifle for sport target shooting in the United States. Hundreds of thousands of people compete with AR15s, M1A, M1 Garands, etc.

Rifles like the AR15 and M1A are actually excellent self defense tools. They’re reliable, easy to handle, have low recoil compared to hunting weapons, and are much easier to shoot accurately than pistols.

Myth: Yeah, but these are assault rifles, man! Join the army!

FACT: Wrong. Assault rifles are select fire weapons with full auto capability. The weapons we’re talking about are NOT assault weapons and lack fully auto fire capability. You’re simply misinformed if you think otherwise (this means YOU Ed Norris–as an ex cop, you damn well ought to know better).

Myth: Sebastian Sassi, you’re a jerk who’s insensitive to the fact that my daddy was shot with an assault pistol in front of FBI HQ ten years ago.

FACT: No, I’m not. I’m sorry for your loss, but taking my personal freedoms away won’t make your family any safer, it’ll just make easier victims of us all. You don’t solve drunk driving by taking everyone’s car away. You don’t solve substance abuse and addiction by telling me I can’t have a glass of wine with dinner.

And you don’t solve violence and criminality by taking guns away from law abiding citizens, especially in light of the fact that depriving me of my personal freedoms isn’t going to stop crooks and maniacs from finding a way to source the guns they want. We can’t disarm them all, but we can prepare ourselves for when the fit hits the shan.

Myth: You use your guns to compensate for your sexual inadequacies and should try Cialis instead.

FACT: I’m so tired of reading that kind of drivel I could scream. The sure fire sign of a hoplophobe who’s run out of logical, cogent, and concise arguments is his incessant foaming at the mouth about genital dimensions and similar psychobabble that likely reflects his own fear, paranoia, and insecurity. If you can’t make a rational, logical, and coherent case for banning guns, I guess you resort to casting juvenile, scatalogical aspersions about my personal life. If guns are proxies for our phalluses, how do you explain the 5-foot-2 Jewish female president of the NRA’s fondness for them? I can assure you she doesn’t use guns to feel better about her penis. Nor does my wife.
 
Sent an email to Ed Norris expressing my concern with his views. I wonder if he responds back.
 
HelmetCase

Sounded great, sorry I missed it.

You should really send an abbreviated (or the whole) version of that to Ed Norris via email or on the forums or something. He reaches out to a much broader and dare I say, semi younger crowd (alot of my friends listen to him). I am VERY upset to hear that he is so misinformed on the subject of the Assault Weapons Ban.

Since I have Sirius Satellite, I no longer listen to Norris much but I did really like his show before I made the switch. He always seemed reasonable and informed on his opinions so I'm dissapointed in him to say the least.


p.s.- Say what you want about Howard Stern but at least the man likes guns. While he doesnt bring it up often, over the years I have heard him make a few remarks of owning several firearms and CCWing a .32acp.
 
I've posted all this on Ed's website forum and challenged him to debate me on this on air. You can email him the same challenge at [email protected].

He's a cop, he should know better.
 
Ugh, I just saw myself on the DVR recording of last night's Fox45 broadcast.

I look really pale and pasty and fat. I need a makeup crew next time. Either that or a trip to the beach before the next time I'm on camera...if I was any pastier looking I'd be Casper.

No wonder I burn like toast in the sun.
 
Nice suit though. Only saw it for a second, but seemed pretty sharp to me.

Hah, I was wondering what I could have worn if I had attended..but the only suit I have is of the Zoot variety. Didn't think anyone would appreciate a tattooed fat kid testifying while wearing a cream-and-black pinstripe suit and a pork-pie hat. :evil:
 
Eh, why not! Pimpin and gun rights go together swimmingly. :D

Yeah, that's an Everman suit, I bought it in Vegas. Probably paid too much, but people compliment me for it all the time. I get lots of props for that suit...not bad for $300.

Somebody else remarked that I must be the Maryland Shall Issue well-dressed guy, which I found funny seeing as I usually show up for MSI meetings with sweatpants, a running jacket, and my dogs. :)
 
Well, I haven't worn it in a few years, and something told me yesterday wasn't the time, heh.

You know, I need to go back to my tattoo artist soon. We were talking recently about finally starting to work on my hands, and I've been wanting to get a pro-rkba tattoo on me for awhile. The solution that just came to me today - I have ten fingers, and ten fingers is just about I'll need to fit M-O-L-O-N L-A-B-E-!

:evil: :evil:
 
Thanks

Just like to thank the guy who had the hand made anti Sb43 stickers. Im not much of a talker, but atleast they knew why I was there with the sticker on me. <-- guy in red polo sweeter:eek:
 
Np on the stickers....I wanted to do them on the printer but ran out of time....my only regret is that I didn't bring 100 more because there were plenty of folks that would have worn them.

I'll be sure to bring more for the Assault Weapon Tax on 3/14 at 1PM..same place and the bill is almost as bad....its a 10% Sales and USAGE tax.....from what I can tell it looks like we would be forced to pay 10% of the value of each of our so called AW's to the state in a special/separate tax return EACH AND EVERY YEAR!

Details/thread are here http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=729
 
So Maynard, the producer from Ed Norris's show wrote me back. Below are his comments and my responses. Think they'd actually have the balls to have me on their show? I rather doubt it given Maynard's predictable and tired "you're a pussy with a small weiner" juvenile responses. Maynard is in italics. You can write him at [email protected].

> You know what stikes me as odd, is that every one of the responses wwe
> have gotten to this has been RIDDLED with personal attacks. Like yours.
> Should hot headed jerks really be allowed to even have a butter knife?


Uhm...what personal attacks are you talking about? I simply pointed out
that you're misinformed. That's not a personal attack, it's the truth.
You said things that were indicative of a person that doesn't have a very
good grasp of the subject. If it offends you or you feel attacked, that's
on YOU, not me.

As for hot headed jerks,...sorry, but people like you are trying to deny
me a basic personal freedom. Yeah, I get hot headed when people violate
my personal liberty, whether it's the 1st or the 2nd or the 4th or the 5th
Amendment.

>
> Want me to get personal? How's this-
> I personally think guns are for pussies.


So all those cops in Baltimore are pussies? All the troops carrying our
flag in Iraq are pussies?

Bull****. Guns are tools like anything else. Their moral value is
imparted by the user.


>I would never own one.

Fair enough. Don't own one then. Don't like abortion? Don't have one.
Don't like pot? Don't smoke it.

Freedom is letting other people make choices for themselves that you
wouldn't make for you.

>You need one, cause you're a pussy and can't fight on your own, I get >that.

Eh, you don't know much about me, so I really don't know how you can make
such a judgment. Actually I've got seven years Okinawan karate and a
couple years of Thai boxing training under my belt, and am pretty versed
in the use of a couple other hand to hand combat fighting weapons. A real
martial artist learns about all sorts of hand to hand and weaponry and
keeps an open mind about effective new tools. You know who happens to be
a firearms expert in addition to a fantastic martial artist? Steven
Seagal. Go tell him he's a pussy because he owns and uses guns. Let me
know which hospital you end up in, I'll send lillies.

But that's not really the point. The point here is that guns are simply
tools that allow you to project force from a greater distance than
contact/edged weapons. That's why they were developed, and that's why
military/LEO use them. If a knife wielding maniac is going after you,
your odds are much better confronting him with force when he's 30 feet
away than 3. Well, we private citizens use them for the same reason LEOs
do--its better for us to be able to confront evil from a distance than
close up.


>Or you
> have a small member and you need it to prove to yourself that you're a
> man. Hey, everyone gets a bad break sometimes in life.


Eh, you didn't read much of my email, did you?

As I wrote earlier, seems pretty common that when gun fearing folks run
out of logical, rational ideas, they resort to slinging immature potty
humor and insults about the genitals of people they've never met.

If gun enthusiasm is about your penis, how do you explain the 5 foot 2
Jewish female president of the NRA? Hmmmmm?


> I am for a ban of machine gus and assault weapons.

Rather than getting all emotional, you should have read my actual email.
You'd see that machine guns are already essentially banned to everyone but
law enforcement since 1934. Duh. We don't need another law to do that.

>AND high powered military styled rifles.

The AR15 fires a wimpy .223 cartridge. My .270 hunting rifle fires a
cartridge that's three times as powerful and travels twice as far
accurately...but isn't banned. Logical, eh?

>If you use the semi-auto equivalent of an M-16, a
> high powered semi auto, and you fire that at a burgular at 2am and miss,
> which you will cause you'll be scared,


I won't miss. I'm well trained. Besides, would I be less likely to miss
wth a bolt action? Of course not.

>it will go through your wall and
> probably hit your neighbors house- or dog or KID.


My bedroom is on the second floor. I'll be shooting towards the earth as
my backstop. I'm fine with that. The word or term you're looking for is
"tactical awareness."

> If this bill goes
> beyond that and bans ALL semi autos, then I am opposed.


It does. I assume then you'll publish a retraction on air today? You'll
encourage your listeners to oppose the bill because it essentially bans
every semiauto pistol (just like the ones Ed supports the carrying of?)?
I certainly hope you will.


>
> How about you MAN up and learn to fight instead of hiding behind your
> trigger- which BTW from close range, is MUCH less effective than my katana
> blade, and at 2am, even if I am really scraed, I won't miss.
>


How about instead of casting aspersions at my manhood, why don't you
consider that not everyone is a man. When my wife is at home and a 230lb
rapist kicks in the back door, why should she have to fist fight him?

> Also, if you talk BS about teh 2nd amendment protecting us from our own
> gov't- trust me pal, if the gov't decideds to come for you, your guns
> won't help you.


They will help. Why? Because the govt knows there are 80million+ gun
owners in the US and we are a formidable force.

Don't think a ragtag militia armed with small arms can resist our govt?
Heh. Check out this little country called IRAQ. Or Vietnam for that
matter. Armed private citizens can hold off the world's supreme military
powers via guerrilla tactics, history has shown that time and again.

Rather than have an overly emotional internet pissing match with firearms
enthusiasts like the people writing you today, wouldn't it be better to
have an enthusiast/expert on the air to discuss the subject from a
knowledgable point of view? Ed himself has met with Wayne LaPierre
before. Why not have him on the air? Why not have an NRA trained
instructor on the air?

Regards,
SS
 
I'll post my convo with Maynard also.

ORIGINAL EMAIL
Mr. Norris,

My name is Guido2006 and I listened to your show nearly everyday for the
last year. I'm no longer living in Maryland because of military obligations, but
I am still very interested in the freedoms of my home state. I'm sure you know that over 200 citizens traveled to Annapolis today to express their opposition to SB 43, The Assault Weapons Bill of 2007. Two-hundred good citizens went to try and protect their rights to own what they want.

This information is coming to me second-hand, so correct me if I am wrong, but you basically stated that “what do you need with a machine gun, what sporting purpose do they have, etc”. Again, this is second-hand, so I don't know your exact wording,but please correct me if I am wrong.

There are many things that we do not need, but thankfully our country's
freedoms, our rights, allow us to have stuff we want. You may not want a
machine-gun or military style weapons (AR15, AKs, etc), and that is fine, but
many people do, and nearly all are law abiding citizens. Many people do not need SUVs or sports cars, but we live in a free country that allows us to drive what we want.

On the sporting side, many of these weapons fill that role just as well as a
"hunting gun." AR15s in various configurations can hunt everything from
squirrels, with a .22 upper receiver to moose or bear with a .50 upper receiver. I plan to purchase a Springfield Armory M1A. It is basically a civilian semi-auto M-14. I can use it with a 5 round magazine to hunt deer, or I can use it with a 20 round magazine when I go shoot at a gun ran ge.

On a more serious note, many of our service men and women use M-16s/M-4s as their service weapon but get very little range time through the military. Having a platform, such as an AR15, which is nearly identical to their service weapon, allows them to practice on their own.

Mr. Norris, if I am wrong about your statements, count me in as one of your
continued fans. However, if you are for gun control on the basis that "its not
sporting, what do you need it for", then you are against my rights and the
rights of every other law abiding citizen in Maryland.

I would very much like to hear back from you. Thank you for your time.

Very respectfully,
Guido2006
Formerly from Millersville, MD

RESPONSE FROM Maynard Edwards
Kudos to you sir for having a reasonable intelligent non-personal response to the issue. I have to say that of the 20 or so I got, ALL of them were riddled with hot headed personal attacks by gun owners who, based on their inability to form a reasonable argument without resorting to personal attack, should NEVER own so much as a butter knife, letalone a gun.

You stand alone in your crowd. SO thanks.

I think we may have to agree to disagree though. we are for a ban of machine guns and high power militray style semi's. If this bill goes beyond that, then we are opposed. We're reading the wording carefully, and we'll redress the bill imparticular asap.

--
Maynard Edwards
Executive Producer/ Co-Host
"Ed Norris Show" WHFS-FM

MY SECOND RESPONSE
Mr. Edwards,

Thank for you the response. I am sorry to hear that others were less than polite with their responses. Unfortunately emotions run high on both sides of the issue and neither side does any any good with personal attacks.

I respect your right to disagree with me on the issue but I have one point based on your response about high power military semi's. Please forgive any technical sounding jargon.

I believe with the term "high power military-style rifles" you mean weapons such as AR15s, AKs, and a few weapons. For the most part, these fire less powerful rounds than your average hunting rifle. The average hunting rifle fires a .30-06 or .270 round (based on the .30-06). These rounds are much more powerful than the 5.56mm and 7.62x39 round used by the AR15 and AK.

You have every right to your opinion, but I just want to make sure you are able to base your decisions on fact, as sometimes it is difficult to sift through all the information bandied about by both sides.

If you can spare 10 minutes, please watch this video created by an officer of the San Jose Police Department. I believe you will find it worthwhile. Its called "the Truth about Semi-Autos."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjM9fcEzSJ0&NR

Thank you for you time.

Very respectfully,
Guido2006
 
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