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The Maryland AWB of 2007

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  1. kingpin008

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    Spot77 & Norton - Just got your package in the mail, about to go find a good spot on our cars to stick 'em to. Once again, thanks alot and if there's any volunteer work me or my fiancee can do until we send in our actual membership dues do not hesitate to let us know.
     
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    Rolmulus, WAMU is backtracking BIG TIME......I called and had a discussion with a girl named Lisa that claims that they didn't even read a story on SB 43 now <lol> I told her that I would NEVER EVER EVER make another contribution towards WAMU and that I was going to make that clear to the Donations/Membership Committee if they did not issue a followup with correct info and then proceeded to give her the correct info 210 opponents, less than 10 proponents all paid pros from Ceasfire blah blah except for 1 victim from 14 years ago who happened to be related to the Pres of one of the Anti-Groups...blah blah.

    It got her attention when I vowed to never contribute to the station ever again due to false and biased news reports....
     
  4. nico

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    If anybody is close to a radio, turn on 1090AM. Helmetcase (progunprogressive) is about to be interviewed by Ron Smith about the AWB!

    ETA: and he's reading my letter! :) . . . hmm, it seemed like it was written better, and less vitriolic at 2am when I wrote it:eek:
     
  5. Harry Tuttle

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    zumbo-fy at will:

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  6. jpk1md

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    Nice job helpmetcase!

    Nice job helpmetcase!

    I heard you on 1090!
     
  7. madmike

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    Beat them on the Anvil of Facts with the Hammer of Truth.

    Though the Wire Brush of Common Sense has its place, too.:eek: :D
     
  8. kingpin008

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    I've always preferred the hickory switch of justice, personally. :p
     
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    I also received a nice, fair response from Senator Raskin and I hope that we'll find a fair balance in our shared goals of crime fighting.
     
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    Keeping the Momentum Going

    Sending out the letter versions of my email tonight, as a followup. Since Senator Jacobs was kind enough to respond positively already, I added a handwritten thanks to my letter to her, and asked her to put me on her campaign mailing list. :evil:

    Michael

    Norton/Spot - thanks for the MSI info, I sent Henry my membership dues and a nice donation to cover my tardiness. :) I sent via mail, as Paypal isn't a friend to gunnies if I recall....
     
  11. kingpin008

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    Got my own response from Sen. Jacobs

    Very nice lady, and exactly the kind of person we need in there representing us. Like MDHunter, I've sent her back a personal thank-you for her quick and personal response.

    Glad Raskin has been replying so moderately, perhaps he's beginning to come out of the coma some of the anti's have been spinning around our representatives.. I sense only good things ahead!
     
  12. MDHunter

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    Keep Posting the Responses!

    Nice letter Kingpin!

    Keep posting the responses we receive guys and gals....so we can keep track of who's with us or not, and be sure to send follow up thank you letters to our supporters! That goes a long way, versus dropping them like a tool when we're done with them.

    Michael
     
  13. kingpin008

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    I sent a fresh round of emails last night after reading the results of the hearing, and the response from Sen. Jacobs is actually referring to a completely seperate email I sent from her site this afternoon! I still haven't heard back from most of the senators, period. Robey sent me that little love note I posted a few pages back, I think Raskin sent me one that was leaning towards the anti-side, but nothing new since the latest rounds.

    Will definetly post any new ones though. I can't wait to hear the actual "verdict" as it were..almost like christmas, heh.
     
  14. Helmetcase

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    Hey guys,
    Glad somebody heard me on Ron's show today. He's firmly in our camp, hopefully he'll keep giving us airtime. The biggest thing we face is the average gun owner thinking "gee, this is just a machine gun ban, it won't affect me." We need to show the gun banners they over-reached.

    Here's my writeup on my my convo with Ron Smith: http://progunprogressive.com/?p=332

     
  15. Guido2006

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    Sent an email to Ed Norris expressing my concern with his views. I wonder if he responds back.
     
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    HelmetCase

    Sounded great, sorry I missed it.

    You should really send an abbreviated (or the whole) version of that to Ed Norris via email or on the forums or something. He reaches out to a much broader and dare I say, semi younger crowd (alot of my friends listen to him). I am VERY upset to hear that he is so misinformed on the subject of the Assault Weapons Ban.

    Since I have Sirius Satellite, I no longer listen to Norris much but I did really like his show before I made the switch. He always seemed reasonable and informed on his opinions so I'm dissapointed in him to say the least.


    p.s.- Say what you want about Howard Stern but at least the man likes guns. While he doesnt bring it up often, over the years I have heard him make a few remarks of owning several firearms and CCWing a .32acp.
     
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    I've posted all this on Ed's website forum and challenged him to debate me on this on air. You can email him the same challenge at [email protected].

    He's a cop, he should know better.
     
  18. Helmetcase

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    Ugh, I just saw myself on the DVR recording of last night's Fox45 broadcast.

    I look really pale and pasty and fat. I need a makeup crew next time. Either that or a trip to the beach before the next time I'm on camera...if I was any pastier looking I'd be Casper.

    No wonder I burn like toast in the sun.
     
  19. kingpin008

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    Nice suit though. Only saw it for a second, but seemed pretty sharp to me.

    Hah, I was wondering what I could have worn if I had attended..but the only suit I have is of the Zoot variety. Didn't think anyone would appreciate a tattooed fat kid testifying while wearing a cream-and-black pinstripe suit and a pork-pie hat. :evil:
     
  20. Helmetcase

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    Eh, why not! Pimpin and gun rights go together swimmingly. :D

    Yeah, that's an Everman suit, I bought it in Vegas. Probably paid too much, but people compliment me for it all the time. I get lots of props for that suit...not bad for $300.

    Somebody else remarked that I must be the Maryland Shall Issue well-dressed guy, which I found funny seeing as I usually show up for MSI meetings with sweatpants, a running jacket, and my dogs. :)
     
  21. kingpin008

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    Well, I haven't worn it in a few years, and something told me yesterday wasn't the time, heh.

    You know, I need to go back to my tattoo artist soon. We were talking recently about finally starting to work on my hands, and I've been wanting to get a pro-rkba tattoo on me for awhile. The solution that just came to me today - I have ten fingers, and ten fingers is just about I'll need to fit M-O-L-O-N L-A-B-E-!

    :evil: :evil:
     
  22. atlanticfire

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    Thanks

    Just like to thank the guy who had the hand made anti Sb43 stickers. Im not much of a talker, but atleast they knew why I was there with the sticker on me. <-- guy in red polo sweeter:eek:
     
  23. jpk1md

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    Np on the stickers....I wanted to do them on the printer but ran out of time....my only regret is that I didn't bring 100 more because there were plenty of folks that would have worn them.

    I'll be sure to bring more for the Assault Weapon Tax on 3/14 at 1PM..same place and the bill is almost as bad....its a 10% Sales and USAGE tax.....from what I can tell it looks like we would be forced to pay 10% of the value of each of our so called AW's to the state in a special/separate tax return EACH AND EVERY YEAR!

    Details/thread are here http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=729
     
  24. Helmetcase

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    So Maynard, the producer from Ed Norris's show wrote me back. Below are his comments and my responses. Think they'd actually have the balls to have me on their show? I rather doubt it given Maynard's predictable and tired "you're a pussy with a small weiner" juvenile responses. Maynard is in italics. You can write him at [email protected].

    > You know what stikes me as odd, is that every one of the responses wwe
    > have gotten to this has been RIDDLED with personal attacks. Like yours.
    > Should hot headed jerks really be allowed to even have a butter knife?


    Uhm...what personal attacks are you talking about? I simply pointed out
    that you're misinformed. That's not a personal attack, it's the truth.
    You said things that were indicative of a person that doesn't have a very
    good grasp of the subject. If it offends you or you feel attacked, that's
    on YOU, not me.

    As for hot headed jerks,...sorry, but people like you are trying to deny
    me a basic personal freedom. Yeah, I get hot headed when people violate
    my personal liberty, whether it's the 1st or the 2nd or the 4th or the 5th
    Amendment.

    >
    > Want me to get personal? How's this-
    > I personally think guns are for pussies.


    So all those cops in Baltimore are pussies? All the troops carrying our
    flag in Iraq are pussies?

    Bull****. Guns are tools like anything else. Their moral value is
    imparted by the user.


    >I would never own one.

    Fair enough. Don't own one then. Don't like abortion? Don't have one.
    Don't like pot? Don't smoke it.

    Freedom is letting other people make choices for themselves that you
    wouldn't make for you.

    >You need one, cause you're a pussy and can't fight on your own, I get >that.

    Eh, you don't know much about me, so I really don't know how you can make
    such a judgment. Actually I've got seven years Okinawan karate and a
    couple years of Thai boxing training under my belt, and am pretty versed
    in the use of a couple other hand to hand combat fighting weapons. A real
    martial artist learns about all sorts of hand to hand and weaponry and
    keeps an open mind about effective new tools. You know who happens to be
    a firearms expert in addition to a fantastic martial artist? Steven
    Seagal. Go tell him he's a pussy because he owns and uses guns. Let me
    know which hospital you end up in, I'll send lillies.

    But that's not really the point. The point here is that guns are simply
    tools that allow you to project force from a greater distance than
    contact/edged weapons. That's why they were developed, and that's why
    military/LEO use them. If a knife wielding maniac is going after you,
    your odds are much better confronting him with force when he's 30 feet
    away than 3. Well, we private citizens use them for the same reason LEOs
    do--its better for us to be able to confront evil from a distance than
    close up.


    >Or you
    > have a small member and you need it to prove to yourself that you're a
    > man. Hey, everyone gets a bad break sometimes in life.


    Eh, you didn't read much of my email, did you?

    As I wrote earlier, seems pretty common that when gun fearing folks run
    out of logical, rational ideas, they resort to slinging immature potty
    humor and insults about the genitals of people they've never met.

    If gun enthusiasm is about your penis, how do you explain the 5 foot 2
    Jewish female president of the NRA? Hmmmmm?


    > I am for a ban of machine gus and assault weapons.

    Rather than getting all emotional, you should have read my actual email.
    You'd see that machine guns are already essentially banned to everyone but
    law enforcement since 1934. Duh. We don't need another law to do that.

    >AND high powered military styled rifles.

    The AR15 fires a wimpy .223 cartridge. My .270 hunting rifle fires a
    cartridge that's three times as powerful and travels twice as far
    accurately...but isn't banned. Logical, eh?

    >If you use the semi-auto equivalent of an M-16, a
    > high powered semi auto, and you fire that at a burgular at 2am and miss,
    > which you will cause you'll be scared,


    I won't miss. I'm well trained. Besides, would I be less likely to miss
    wth a bolt action? Of course not.

    >it will go through your wall and
    > probably hit your neighbors house- or dog or KID.


    My bedroom is on the second floor. I'll be shooting towards the earth as
    my backstop. I'm fine with that. The word or term you're looking for is
    "tactical awareness."

    > If this bill goes
    > beyond that and bans ALL semi autos, then I am opposed.


    It does. I assume then you'll publish a retraction on air today? You'll
    encourage your listeners to oppose the bill because it essentially bans
    every semiauto pistol (just like the ones Ed supports the carrying of?)?
    I certainly hope you will.


    >
    > How about you MAN up and learn to fight instead of hiding behind your
    > trigger- which BTW from close range, is MUCH less effective than my katana
    > blade, and at 2am, even if I am really scraed, I won't miss.
    >


    How about instead of casting aspersions at my manhood, why don't you
    consider that not everyone is a man. When my wife is at home and a 230lb
    rapist kicks in the back door, why should she have to fist fight him?

    > Also, if you talk BS about teh 2nd amendment protecting us from our own
    > gov't- trust me pal, if the gov't decideds to come for you, your guns
    > won't help you.


    They will help. Why? Because the govt knows there are 80million+ gun
    owners in the US and we are a formidable force.

    Don't think a ragtag militia armed with small arms can resist our govt?
    Heh. Check out this little country called IRAQ. Or Vietnam for that
    matter. Armed private citizens can hold off the world's supreme military
    powers via guerrilla tactics, history has shown that time and again.

    Rather than have an overly emotional internet pissing match with firearms
    enthusiasts like the people writing you today, wouldn't it be better to
    have an enthusiast/expert on the air to discuss the subject from a
    knowledgable point of view? Ed himself has met with Wayne LaPierre
    before. Why not have him on the air? Why not have an NRA trained
    instructor on the air?

    Regards,
    SS
     
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    I'll post my convo with Maynard also.

    ORIGINAL EMAIL
    RESPONSE FROM Maynard Edwards
    MY SECOND RESPONSE
     
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