The prices individuals think their used rifles are worth...

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zchry said:
Oh I know they're about $200. But I don't know of any other rifle that isn't some beat up .22 that costs as little. Especially since OP wanted a loaner deer rifle. So it's (relatively) cheap as dirt and it should shoot just fine.
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A Mosin is a roll of the dice. Some shoot fine and some don't shoot worth crap. In the other hand you can get a new bolt gun, with scope and a warranty for $300-$350 and less if you are willing to wait on a sale. Personally I'll take the new gun.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...974/products_id/70953/Savage+AXIS+XP+308+WSCP
 
The local pawn shops are pricing above retail for current model used guns.
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So does Gander Mtn; at least on the used guns from corporate. Back when they took local trades and turned around and sold them, you could find a deal. But when you have to pay for all of those "Lodges" they need the cash.
 
"...think their used rifles are worth..." Worse, up here. Guys, Stateside, see prices asked on the assorted auction sites and think their stuff is worth that too. Up here, guy see U.S. prices for some stuff, usually milsurps, and they think theirs is worth the same.
"...deer rifle to loan out..." Gun shows or the local newspaper, but not until after deer season. You can get some decent scoped rifles then for less. Guy misses his deer and blames the rifle/cartridge instead of his lack of practice and decides to sell.
 
It seems like they price it high and sit on them till deer season rolls around, people buy them to use for the season and sell after at the same high price they paid.
 
If you want cheaper, wait until deer season is about to start and go hang out outside the gun show entrance looking for guys coming to trade up.
 
I didn't buy it but I was tempted recently. I was wondering through a local pawn shop & they had an older Marlin 336 with the gold trigger. It was priced at $300. That shop always has older brand name deer rifles for around $300.
 
Out of my hands.

I list a lot of guns for others on consignment. A couple of my regulars ask prices that are so high that I am ashamed to list them. I have seen Remington 600's that would be in better condition if they had been dragged behind a truck listed at 100% Blue Book. I get rude emails, lowball offers, even advice on what the guns are actually worth. I know what they are worth but I have no say about it.

If they would let me price them right I could get rid of 75% of them in short order, but NO-O-0-0-0.
 
I just had a guy want me to drive 40 mins to pay $600 for a Glock 19. The fact that I could drive 5 mins and buy it new for $550 didn't phase him.

On the flip side I had a Sig that was $750 new I was selling for $600 and had several $400 offers.

It helps to have a drink in hand.
 
I list a lot of guns for others on consignment. A couple of my regulars ask prices that are so high that I am ashamed to list them. I have seen Remington 600's that would be in better condition if they had been dragged behind a truck listed at 100% Blue Book. I get rude emails, lowball offers, even advice on what the guns are actually worth. I know what they are worth but I have no say about it.

If they would let me price them right I could get rid of 75% of them in short order, but NO-O-0-0-0.
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I've known more than one shop that would refuse to consign a gun priced over blue book for exactly that reason. Not worth the headache to them, just taking up rack/shelf space and making them look bad.
 
Oh come on! They took the time to break it in for you ... It's got to be worth more cuz they did all that work for you!

Did you ask them how "they arrived at that price"?

You didn't mention if the used rifle had a scope or other extras on it ... or if you did I missed it.
 
Macchina said:
I have been shopping for a cheaper deer rifle to loan out to siblings and cousins this year and have been met one insultingly high price after another. Browsing a few local forums and Armslist I see rifles such as the Savage Axis, Ruger American, Mossberg ATR, etc. being advertised anywhere from $50 to $100 ABOVE the current brand new price from my local gun shop!
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Maybe this is a hint that I should just a buy a brand new gun...
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Welcome to the world of gun resale.

This hasn't changed in at least the last 25-plus years. I can remember quite clearly shopping around for certain used firearms even before Al Gore invented the internet. A used rifle for virtually the same price as a new rifle in any LGS was the norm.

I had a number of conversations with salesmen back in the day on this. "Will you come down $25 on the price of this rifle?" "No." "Why not?" "Because that's the market price for this rifle." "But I can buy the same rifle new for $10 more, have a warrantee, and be sure it should operate like a new rifle should."

No luck.

I understand people got to make a living, but unless a particular firearm has something going for it that makes it worth new-price cost or better, I'm sorry...not gonna do it. No longer made? Sure. Sentimental value because it's EXACTLY like the first gun you ever owned? Yep.

I just pass such things by and go on my way.
 
One of the reasons Armslist is so insanely overpriced is because people have discovered that some buyers will pay a premium for a gun with no 4473. So they price all their guns as if someone desperately wants one.

This tends to apply mostly to ARs and handguns, but other guns aren't immune.
 
Used guns worry me, as I have been burned in the past by. As the others have pointed out most new models are near the price of used, usually come with new/better features and almost always have some sort of warranty.

Don't gamble with your money; shop smart, shop S-mart.
 
MachIVshooter said:
Low ball means offering substantially less than realistic/market value; doesn't apply when you're making a fair offer against an exorbitant/ridiculous asking price.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=low+ball
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it's still a lowball lol, just because you think you know the market value better than the seller doesn't change that, whether you do know better or not is not relevant. the fact is market value is what someone is willing to pay for something, if he keeps the ad up long enough, eventually a sucker will bite.
 
it's still a lowball lol, just because you think you know the market value better than the seller doesn't change that, whether you do know better or not is not relevant. the fact is market value is what someone is willing to pay for something, if he keeps the ad up long enough, eventually a sucker will bite.
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So, If I was asking $1,275 in today's market for a used franken-AR built with PSA PTAC parts, and someone offered me $450 (pretty close to actual investment on the new parts with shipping), you would consider that a "low ball" offer? Because that's the kind of insane asking prices some of us are seeing.

Just to be clear, I'm not crying foul about people asking for ridiculous amounts of money for their used junk. That's their business, and if they don't need the money and can sit on it until your "sucker" comes along (if ever), good for them. But I do have a problem with these people getting huffy when they receive a reasonable offer, and I also have a problem with calling fair offers "low ball" just because the asking price is astronomical in a given market. A true low ball offer is (as you'd see from multiple sources in the link) one which is absurdly below market value, to the point of insulting, and, especially if the seller is in a tight spot, aiming to take advantage of them. A true low ball is as deserving of an eye roll as these stupid high asking prices, and I've certainly had my fair share when selling things, like a guy who wanted my freshly rebuilt Losi 1/8 scale nitro monster truck for $120 ("it's all I got!"). That was about half of market value for one with an original, tired .26 sport engine, where mine had a brand new body and a nearly new .32 engine. Fair value was closer to $300, and I wound up taking $270 a few days later.

We can agree to disagree, but if you don't understand the difference between low balling and making a reasonable offer on an item listed with an astronomical asking price, I'd say you're part of the problem with the bloated figures in today's classifieds and consignment racks.
 
...or, around here its become somewhat normal to go hang out in the parking lot the next time the local Sheriff is having a gun buy to get guns off the street. The Sheriff is paying $100. Some of my neighbors have come home with things they bought for $150 that would have brought $400 at the pawn shop.
 
i look for deals as any thing i buy is some thing i want, not need. i picked up this 12ga browning A-5 slug gun for 350.00, did i need it, no i wanted it so i offered only what i would pay for it and it came home with me. eastbank.
 

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^^^^ That's my game plan. I see a gun I might want and if I don't know the value I will do some research, go back, and make an offer. I have picked up some good deals, in my eyes, from pawn shops by doing this.
I have not purchased a used gun from a business in over a year. I have purchased a couple of used ones from individuals as well as several new guns but the price of these used guns is out of my desired range. I don'e begrudge a person or a business making a profit but being ridiculous seldom works out for a seller.
 
I figure it this way, any gun on any given day is worth what someone is willing to pay for it, no more and no less. If someone can get $50 or more than a gun cost new, then more power to them. My friends, neighbors and former co-workers all know I am a gun enthusiast so if they or someone they know is looking to sell a gun I get recommended or suggested as a person to talk to. I have no problem paying a fair price for a gun I may want but sure as heck will not pay more than a new one would cost or more than going rate on older guns.

Ron
 
OP do you understand what the free market does? If you think the price is too high...make a counter offer or move on.

Too often people post complaint threads because they are upset that they low balled someone and their offer was not considered.

I know I sell and buy quite a bit online and if I'm selling a firearm...I factor all the extra items that go along with the firearm.

If you are seeing used firearms with no extras for new prices...well some of those folks may not know what the current price is in that firarm. I mean if X firearm is on clearance and the seller doesn't know that it's a clearance item...you cannot get upset at the seller.

Not ever buyer/seller is knowlegable about the firearms that they are buying/selling.
 
I have a friend who is sort of like this. He thinks his stuff is worth more than anybody will pay for it. I reckon when he dies his family can sell it at estate sale prices.
 
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