AmYisraelChai
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This is meant to be taken as a humorous observation.
I feel like a shrink sometimes. listening to the myths and tall tales of American shooters.
Let me give you a few examples. These are not something I see from time to time either. With thousands of people through the door every week I hear these every day. I don't say much about it. When they don't understand the Law, I will try and explain to them the truth, when they don't understand something technical I will try and explain it, when they are talking about their buddy who....(was the first man on mars and cured cancer) I just let them be.
Class III weapons.
(Very few people, even super gun people understand the NFA). This one is as much the medias fault as anyones. When I pull one of the Autos out, the reaction is almost always the same. Half the firing line has a big grin and half think they are illegal. When some of the basics of laws of Class III are explained, most people think they are now legal because of the AWB expiring. A vast majority of gun people think the AWB has something to do with Full Autos.
Don't bump fire your rifle and then tell someone who doesn't know any better you have a full auto. People do this to impress others. Let me tell you about the people you are impressing....they will tell everyone they know about you and your awesome "full Auto" not to be a snitch, but because if you have it, it must be OK and it sure was cool...and people like to talk about things that are cool ...It will get you a knock on your door from and LEO.
A vast majority of Gun people think there is really a class III license(like a DL) and with this mythical beast you may now go forth and buy full autos at will. I hear this often. BTW, if you bring out an illegal Full Auto....dont tell me you have a "class III license" I will ask you to see it. When you tell me you left it at home, and I ask what it looks like, don't tell me "like a drivers license". Yes, this happens from time to time. Your buddy is lying when he tells you he has this license.
When you ask how much the (NFA MP5s, UZI, AR, whatnot) is and I say, you could get one in the range of (Insert many thousand dollar price tag here) don't tell me your "buddy" has one he bought for a grand at the gun show last week or you have seen them for sale on subguns for 1500 bucks. (Most people know more about Chinese algebra than they do pre/post 1986)
Don't tell me you have a Glock 18...really Don't tell me you have a glock 7. If your buddy told you he did, he lied.
You do not have a buddy with a mini gun. And if you are someone who really knows one of the lucky 15 or so....I am sorry, but I will take my chances and say...you do not have a buddy with a minigun. If you really have a buddy who says he does....chances are he lied.
You do not get to keep or did not get to keep your M16 when you left the service. If your buddy told you he did or you can...he lied.
I understand you are/were in the service, thankyou from the bottom of my heart, I served as well. However, that does not entitle you in any way to special machine gun buying powers.....if your buddy told you so, he lied.
LEO/Government marked magazines.
The myth generally goes something like this. "I have a buddy with some of those, he got them from a Navy Seal or his best friend who is a cop OR he was a (insert operator title here) Folks, I know how this gets started. Someone not overly gun smart is over at the house, and you start showing these off and start the myth factory. "Yeah not just anyone can get these" or something to similar effect.
Many Police do not have a firm handle on this one either. Some think the markings carry the weight of law and some are confused.
Fishing stories and other lies told
Don't tell me you were a Ranger, Seal, Door gunner on the space shuttle unless you were. You have no Idea what I was or my rangemasters were. One day a guy was wearing a Seal hat. I asked him what he did, he told me he was just a cook. He shot for free that day.
If you are in the military or Law enforcment, Do not try and tell me how it is going to be...again, thankyou for your service but obey my rules. Two young E-5s decided to tell me they were federal agents one day....they did not want anything really...but they just wanted to tell me. A friend of mine who is (was active at the time) a Brig General just happened to be there at the time. That was fun.
Just remember on a civilian firing range we have green horns and green berets, I don't have magic powers that let me know which one you are just because you are here.
When a bullet leaves the rifle it begins to do two things right away, start to drop relative to the theoretical bore line and begins to slow down. Do not tell me bullets "rise" I will give you a stick diagram explaining sights and parabolic arcs and whatnot. I can not draw and chances are it will take you a while to understand this. Just remember, your buddy who told you bullets rise....he lied.
Your Buddy did not carry a desert eagle in 50 AE as a Cop, Ranger, SEAL, whatnot
An MP5 is not a battle rifle.
The very air from a .45 as it closely misses you will not knock you across the room. Your buddy who told you he saw this or did this...Lied.
Other strangeness
We staple targets to target boards. When someone comes in they get a fresh target on a board to go out to the line with. Often we just staple a fresh target over the used ones, this can create many layers. At least once a week someone will say (and mean it) "Oh, I can just peel it off if I want a new target"...as they look at the layers underneath.
For the most part, "9" is not a gun. When you ask me for help of some kind and I ask for the make..."9" is not the best answer.
Every day people want my opinions on their guns. Well, This is a hard one. People are proud of their guns, they paid good money for them or someone loved gave or left them to them. They look to me to tell them "Why good sir, you have a magnificent weapon here, it is worth an untold fortune and can dot a man's eye at a mile, it might be from the Queen of Englands personal Armory!" Every now and then this is the case....but for the most part....Your cobbled together 1911 that your grandfather molested and left you is a POS...or your high point will be used in a crime at some point in its life if it doesn't get sold for scrap first...or, "Well sir, I know your uncle told you he used this Luger to personaly shoot Hitler, but you see that stamp that says 1952"...(however I just say, if it goes bang ever time and you can hit what you are aiming at...that is all you really need)
I will not break the law for you. I don't care if "so and so" sold you a gun in some illegal manner...I will not. BTW, this is not a good time to threaten me, think about what we know....we have established the fact that you are in need of a gun and I have one.
Don't go behind a berm on a cease fire. Yep...thats right. We have a 100, 200, 300 yard line. There is a reason I tell new Rangemasters to take a head count on a cease fire. And yes, a grown man will put an article of clothing on the end of a stick and wave it around from behind a pile of dirt.
No, I really don't want to see your target when you are done shooting. Yet everyone wants to show it to me, along with an explanation for every shot. On the pistol line most people have no idea what good shooting is. There is a great reason for this, there are so few good shooters. If you take a look around on any given day and you seem to have the best looking target, that is generally enough to make a man delusional enough to think he is ready for the Nationals.
Couples are great. you usually have a man passing along his bad habits to what could have become a good shooting woman.
Even Anti gun people smile when they shoot. Seriously...dont ever argue with an anti, take them shooting and pay for it....if that offer doesn't work...tie them up and throw them in the trunk as you go to the range. You can apologize when he is buying more ammo.
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I could go on, and I am sure my spelling is bad. just know that I have never had a bad day, just some better than others and I like most everyone who comes through the doors. I get a laugh out of most of these. There is not a single complaint above, again, just observations.
I feel like a shrink sometimes. listening to the myths and tall tales of American shooters.
Let me give you a few examples. These are not something I see from time to time either. With thousands of people through the door every week I hear these every day. I don't say much about it. When they don't understand the Law, I will try and explain to them the truth, when they don't understand something technical I will try and explain it, when they are talking about their buddy who....(was the first man on mars and cured cancer) I just let them be.
Class III weapons.
(Very few people, even super gun people understand the NFA). This one is as much the medias fault as anyones. When I pull one of the Autos out, the reaction is almost always the same. Half the firing line has a big grin and half think they are illegal. When some of the basics of laws of Class III are explained, most people think they are now legal because of the AWB expiring. A vast majority of gun people think the AWB has something to do with Full Autos.
Don't bump fire your rifle and then tell someone who doesn't know any better you have a full auto. People do this to impress others. Let me tell you about the people you are impressing....they will tell everyone they know about you and your awesome "full Auto" not to be a snitch, but because if you have it, it must be OK and it sure was cool...and people like to talk about things that are cool ...It will get you a knock on your door from and LEO.
A vast majority of Gun people think there is really a class III license(like a DL) and with this mythical beast you may now go forth and buy full autos at will. I hear this often. BTW, if you bring out an illegal Full Auto....dont tell me you have a "class III license" I will ask you to see it. When you tell me you left it at home, and I ask what it looks like, don't tell me "like a drivers license". Yes, this happens from time to time. Your buddy is lying when he tells you he has this license.
When you ask how much the (NFA MP5s, UZI, AR, whatnot) is and I say, you could get one in the range of (Insert many thousand dollar price tag here) don't tell me your "buddy" has one he bought for a grand at the gun show last week or you have seen them for sale on subguns for 1500 bucks. (Most people know more about Chinese algebra than they do pre/post 1986)
Don't tell me you have a Glock 18...really Don't tell me you have a glock 7. If your buddy told you he did, he lied.
You do not have a buddy with a mini gun. And if you are someone who really knows one of the lucky 15 or so....I am sorry, but I will take my chances and say...you do not have a buddy with a minigun. If you really have a buddy who says he does....chances are he lied.
You do not get to keep or did not get to keep your M16 when you left the service. If your buddy told you he did or you can...he lied.
I understand you are/were in the service, thankyou from the bottom of my heart, I served as well. However, that does not entitle you in any way to special machine gun buying powers.....if your buddy told you so, he lied.
LEO/Government marked magazines.
The myth generally goes something like this. "I have a buddy with some of those, he got them from a Navy Seal or his best friend who is a cop OR he was a (insert operator title here) Folks, I know how this gets started. Someone not overly gun smart is over at the house, and you start showing these off and start the myth factory. "Yeah not just anyone can get these" or something to similar effect.
Many Police do not have a firm handle on this one either. Some think the markings carry the weight of law and some are confused.
Fishing stories and other lies told
Don't tell me you were a Ranger, Seal, Door gunner on the space shuttle unless you were. You have no Idea what I was or my rangemasters were. One day a guy was wearing a Seal hat. I asked him what he did, he told me he was just a cook. He shot for free that day.
If you are in the military or Law enforcment, Do not try and tell me how it is going to be...again, thankyou for your service but obey my rules. Two young E-5s decided to tell me they were federal agents one day....they did not want anything really...but they just wanted to tell me. A friend of mine who is (was active at the time) a Brig General just happened to be there at the time. That was fun.
Just remember on a civilian firing range we have green horns and green berets, I don't have magic powers that let me know which one you are just because you are here.
When a bullet leaves the rifle it begins to do two things right away, start to drop relative to the theoretical bore line and begins to slow down. Do not tell me bullets "rise" I will give you a stick diagram explaining sights and parabolic arcs and whatnot. I can not draw and chances are it will take you a while to understand this. Just remember, your buddy who told you bullets rise....he lied.
Your Buddy did not carry a desert eagle in 50 AE as a Cop, Ranger, SEAL, whatnot
An MP5 is not a battle rifle.
The very air from a .45 as it closely misses you will not knock you across the room. Your buddy who told you he saw this or did this...Lied.
Other strangeness
We staple targets to target boards. When someone comes in they get a fresh target on a board to go out to the line with. Often we just staple a fresh target over the used ones, this can create many layers. At least once a week someone will say (and mean it) "Oh, I can just peel it off if I want a new target"...as they look at the layers underneath.
For the most part, "9" is not a gun. When you ask me for help of some kind and I ask for the make..."9" is not the best answer.
Every day people want my opinions on their guns. Well, This is a hard one. People are proud of their guns, they paid good money for them or someone loved gave or left them to them. They look to me to tell them "Why good sir, you have a magnificent weapon here, it is worth an untold fortune and can dot a man's eye at a mile, it might be from the Queen of Englands personal Armory!" Every now and then this is the case....but for the most part....Your cobbled together 1911 that your grandfather molested and left you is a POS...or your high point will be used in a crime at some point in its life if it doesn't get sold for scrap first...or, "Well sir, I know your uncle told you he used this Luger to personaly shoot Hitler, but you see that stamp that says 1952"...(however I just say, if it goes bang ever time and you can hit what you are aiming at...that is all you really need)
I will not break the law for you. I don't care if "so and so" sold you a gun in some illegal manner...I will not. BTW, this is not a good time to threaten me, think about what we know....we have established the fact that you are in need of a gun and I have one.
Don't go behind a berm on a cease fire. Yep...thats right. We have a 100, 200, 300 yard line. There is a reason I tell new Rangemasters to take a head count on a cease fire. And yes, a grown man will put an article of clothing on the end of a stick and wave it around from behind a pile of dirt.
No, I really don't want to see your target when you are done shooting. Yet everyone wants to show it to me, along with an explanation for every shot. On the pistol line most people have no idea what good shooting is. There is a great reason for this, there are so few good shooters. If you take a look around on any given day and you seem to have the best looking target, that is generally enough to make a man delusional enough to think he is ready for the Nationals.
Couples are great. you usually have a man passing along his bad habits to what could have become a good shooting woman.
Even Anti gun people smile when they shoot. Seriously...dont ever argue with an anti, take them shooting and pay for it....if that offer doesn't work...tie them up and throw them in the trunk as you go to the range. You can apologize when he is buying more ammo.
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I could go on, and I am sure my spelling is bad. just know that I have never had a bad day, just some better than others and I like most everyone who comes through the doors. I get a laugh out of most of these. There is not a single complaint above, again, just observations.
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