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They found my gun, after 10 years! Recomd a WA state gunsmith?

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  1. Ari

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    They found my gun, after 10 years! (((NOW WITH PICS)))

    The other week I get the mail, and notice one to me from the Seattle Police department. I open it up and apparently, they had found my gun that was stolen from my home over 10 years ago.

    This week, I finally had the time to go to the evidence room at the police station to recover my gun. When I initially talked with the detective, he told me the gun was found in some landscaping near the Seattle University campus, and it appears the gun may have been buried there for as long as my gun has been missing, and, per his words " destroyed beyond any hope of reconditioning".

    I picked up the gun yesterday, and the gun was in fact in bad shape (pics when I get home later tonight), it was completely taken apart, wheel housing and even grip all taken apart, the bullets were seized in the wheel housing and was covered in dirt, but all the parts were there. I take it anyways, so now I don't have to worry about my firearm floating around the streets and it was a gun given to me by my father, whom passed two years ago.

    Anyhow, I get home, and start to polish it up, little bit of hot water to get rid of the dirt, some CLP break free, take apart the trigger housing and take out all of the dirt, CLP the bullets and after on tape with my hammer on the bullet catch get all 5 bullets out and wouldn't you know it, the detective was DEAD wrong! The gun was in incredibly great shape given the fact that it was in the ground for 9 years! the ONLY thing that had erroded beyond the finish, was all in the wheel housing, on one side (pics to come) the trigger was still smooth, and cycled the wheel. The frame is in the exact same shape I remember it in and polished up well. Even the barrel itself, after a once over with my boresnake and some CLP was in great condition. All I really need done is to swap out my wheel housing and have a spring replaced in the hammer because it sometimes does not catch and doesn't trigger the single action (wheel cycles, but trigger doesn't get pulled back, but it cycles just fine and single action effectively.

    I'm hopefull and call one of the dealers not a mile away from me, Bear Arms. I ask him and he tells me he's not a gunsmith. But tells me that it'll cost at least 5 times what the gun is worth. I say " 1,500 dollars?" he says, or there abouts, and goes on to tell me what he has in stock comparible. I'm not interested in "another" 38, I just want this one fixed and further explain what I need done. " oh yeah, well it'll "probably" be 7-800 dollars.

    My old gunsmith has since moved over to the other side of the mountains. So I'm looking for an honest gunsmith that'll do work on this old gun. It's a M88 Amadeos Rossi, 2" snub 38. It's not an M frame S&W, or custom Colt, but it means something to me. So I know it'll be like polishing a turd, but again, it's sentimental to me, and although I'm happy to have it back, i'd love to see it functional again.

    Any recommendations of an honest gun smith in the Washington State area? All else fails I'll take him to my guy up north at Lynnwood guns. He's done some work on my AR's for me that I know is an honest guy, just wanted to see if anyone else here may know of someone else around here.
     
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  2. snorko

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    Congrats! on the recovery. This gives me hope for the Colt Officers .45 enhanced, Colt government .380, Colt Dbl Eagle Officers .45 and S&W 625 that walked away in 1994.
     
  3. Notch

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    Sounds to me like you actualy have the ability to do it yourself. Turn it into a project. Happy to hear that you recovered it. The pistol my father gave me ( once his) is one of my mos prized possesions. The other being the pistol my mother once owned.
     
  4. Bezoar

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    I dont see how it could cost that much to repair, probably be able ti swap parts out with the newer made rossi snubs in that model I would think. Maybe he just said that so youd get a "real non rossi gun" gun from him.
     
  5. Ari

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    Yeah, that is in fact what I believe his intentions are. He only seems to carry some of the more high end equipment and doesn't carry anything cheap there, so I was not too shocked. Says they only thing he may have "comparible" is a used Tauraus he just took in trade, but he doesn't have much if any used stuff, all new stuff.

    I didn't even finish telling him what I needed done before he pulled that figure out of thin air. Which is fine, he's a good guy and a very nice shop and probably doens't have time for a no one like me. So I'm looking for some more sympathetic to my needs.
     
  6. ED21

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    Congratulations on the recovery. Several years ago I had some guns taken from my home in Denver. Two (a .22 rifle given to me for my 8th birthday, and a SKB 150 SXS) had sentamental value and have never been recovered. The third was a colt huntsman that had been re-blued and was a great gun for blue grouse hunting. Anyway, one day I received a call from the Denver Police and they told me they had one of my guns and I could go pick it up. It was the huntsman. Fast forward to about five years ago and living in North Carolina. I had a kid down on his luck and a friend of my son living with us. Around the time he left I discovered four handguns missing. Didn't know where he went and have not seen him or the guns since. About a year later I get a call from an agent with the Secret Service. I thought the email jokes I had sent out about Clinton had finally caught up with me :uhoh: He asked if I owned a Kimber .45. I told him that it had been stolen. He said it was he had it and was being kept as evidence for a counterfitter. Cutting out the middle of the story here; the judge ordered it destroyed. The Agent tried to get that overturned and returned to me but no such luck. That sucked as it was a Kimber Pro Carry in stainless and was a retirement gift from me to me when I retired from the army. He notified me last year that it had been destroyed. The other three guns have not been recovered. (Colt Target that was part of my Grand Dad's estate, a Colt .25, and the Colt Huntsman that had been returned to me in Denver.) Hopefully, someday they will show up.
     
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    The only gun the police ever recovered from a total of five stolen from me was found ten years after the fact , but was evidence in a murder trial and according to the homicide detective was recovered in a swamp in an unusable condition.Ser# filed off and the barrel removed, it was a Dan Wesson 357 I purchased when they first came out.They only contacted me to find out when and where a theft report hade been made.That was in 1994 and I havent heard any thing about it since.
     
  9. Cliff47

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    You have an excellent gunsmith right in your back yard. Give a call to 'The Sightman', his number is in the yellow pages, and he's between Kent and Renton on 108th. He did some great work for me a couple of years ago, and his rates are reasonable. He may be fully retired by now, so give him a call.

    When I last went by his shop, he was open three days a week, that is when he wasn't going deer hunting.
     
  10. Ari

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    Funny you should mention it ED21, but that was essentially the same situation. I met a friend at a party that I had not seen since highschool. We mixed it up pretty good that night and the next thing you know, I had offered for him to stay awhile until he got back on his feet. A week later I came home to find that along with some food and clothes, my pistol, which was given to me by my father, was also stolen. I have never seen him since.

    To make it all more creepy, I read the report of it being found, and it was found on the anniversary of my father passing, 2 years exactly of the day, February 6, 2007. And it took them close to 2 months before they finally notified me last week.
     
  11. Bart Noir

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    Interesting story, Ari. And the Sightman may be retired but it is possible that somebody else is running that business. I vaguely remember hearing that at one of the gunshows. Worth a try.

    I suggest you throw away any cartridges that you put CLP on. It would not be good to trust your life to a defensive pistol that has dead primers in the cartridges. And some cleaners will penetrate the cartridge and kill the primer.

    Bart Noir
    Who still calls the "wheel housing" by the old-fashioned name of "cylinder" ;)
     
  12. Ari

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    LOL, I figured I wasn't being too technical with the terms. :)

    And NO, I will definately not be reusing any of those bullets. I may fling a few rounds down range with them later, but really going to be retired to my safe. I've got a good primary, secondary and third'ary (there goes those technical terms again ;-) ) CCW, and my wife is comfy with her Smith .38. So this doesn't have any new purpose, but rather sentimental value. I think it's one of the last significant gifts from my father, besides those that cannot be captured on film.
     
  13. Ari

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    hey wait a minute, is that a magazine or clip? (TIC) :)
     
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    Glad to hear your stolen property is returned and glad your fathers gift is yours again.
    Not much help on finding a Smith in your area, but suer would like to see pics both in process of restoring and when done.
    Good Luck and Safe shooting.
     
  15. Ari

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    Yup, i got the pictures on my digital at home. I'll post them up as soon as I get home. It's pretty amazing really. i wasn't expecting much at all, I was expecting to see half a barrel erroded away, but not the case. Imagine all of the chemicals from landscaping, and all the rain we get here in Seattle, for over 10 years! But the gun is actually in prestine shape. Frame and everything. It even cycles smooth. Not bad for a $300 Brazilian Rossi revlover.
     
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    I understand that after he left my place that people had seen him around that area of the city living with other low lifes. then I hear he pissed off some other people and fled to live with his father in Canada. so I'm assuming after he was not able to sell it to anyone that he hid it there knowing he wouldn't make it over the boarder with it, and never came back for it. don't even know if he's alive anymore.

    I think my pops found it for me to have back. He literally took his last breath a stone throws away from where it was found ( Swedish Hospital ) Seattle University is across the street.
     
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    Have you tried contacting Taurus/Rossi for parts?

    Glad to hear your old man got your gun back for you. Might be worth visiting the cemetery to say thanks. ;)
     
  18. Sam Adams

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    Parts, schmarts! Contact Rossi and tell them that in exchange for them completely reconditioning the gun, you'll let them use the gun in any ads that they'd like, for the purpose of illustrating their high quality, customer satisfaction, etc. That'd be a win-win situation.

    Also, what corrosion protection did you use on it before it was stolen? That company may also help you out in return for using the gun in an ad.
     
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    Not creepy at all. Amazing, wonderful, and intriguing.
    I wish my Dad could find the 3 that were stolen from my home. Congrads.

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    I gotta agree on that one. It might be worth a trip to the range first and take the pistol to the gravesite with you. Might be nice to give your Dad a range report for his efforts. Good story.
     
  20. Ari

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    I probably should. I haven't visited him since we put him there over two years ago. I'm still healing from it. first year was rough as I remember trying to call him before forgetting he's gone.

    I remember the day he gave me the gun, he came over by himself in the middle of the day and told me he has something for me. I'm the youngest of 5 children and naturally I was his baby, and was used to being taken cared of, wether it be my father or my older brothers. He was constantly making sure I had food to eat, enough money, etc. He came inside, sat me down and told me "You are a man now son, you have to learn take care of your own self and your family, no one else will do it for you now.". then carefully handed me the gun case.

    The first couple nights alone in my home when I first bought my home, I was scared of every little noise I heard, when the truth of his words finally hit me. Who am I gonna run to? My wife? My Chihuahua? My father was all the way across town. I AM the man of THIS house now. If there is any danger out there, it has to get by ME first. From that day forward, I did not regard "bumps in the night" in that regard ever again. Rather, I knew it was my own responsibility now.
     
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  21. ArfinGreebly

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    Keep it. Yes, I know, you were going to anyway.

    Keep it. Even if it never shoots again, there's just no price you can put on that.

    What an incredible gift.

    In a world where men have forgotten who they are, he gave you trust, responsibility, and a duty all at the same time.

    Every so often I get to hear a story like this about a man I'll never meet.

    And, in spite of that, he has my full respect.
     
  22. xpun8

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    Awesome story with an awesome ending.

    Sam Adams may be right. I know if I were them I'd hook you up. Great PR for a little, drop in the bucket refurb job.

    Here's their info:
    Rossi Customer Service-
    Call your Customer Service Team when you have questions or are seeking product advice. Their knowledge of the firearm industry and your past purchase history allows them to make the best possible product recommendations for you.

    Phone:(305) 474-0401
    Fax: (305) 623-7506
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    Miami, FL 33014
     
  23. theken206

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    I agree with seeing if rossi take care of it for you.

    and just to give you another option C.A. has on onsite 'smith. its a nice range and they seem to be nice guys.

    Champion Arms
    Indoor Shooting Range
    18801 East Valley Hwy.
    Kent, WA 98032
    253-872-0444


    "probably doens't have time for a no one like me. So I'm looking for some more sympathetic to my needs."

    lol, I dont know about that man. In my mind that translates to, no time for me= none of my money for you.
     
  24. Ari

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    Here are the pic's

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    again, here is the worst hit portion of the gun, the cylinder was the only part of the gun that actually started to deteriorate.
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    But again, not too shabby for having spent 10 years in the dirt under Seattle conditions (rainy) and having tons of chemicals dumped on it for being planted in the landscaping of the Seattle University campus.
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