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You should shoot the nut behind the wheel. Guaranteed to stop the vehicle.
Think a car is not a deadly weapon?
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You should shoot the nut behind the wheel. Guaranteed to stop the vehicle.
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Not trying to be pedantic but ..... ''guaranteed'' over what time/distance frame? Reason I bring it up is .. let us say the guy is hit .. and terminally. There is no knowing whether his foot will come off the gas ... and, directional control will be totally lost.
Could go either way IMO .. if lucky then a gentle and slowing cruise into some solid object ..... but at worst ... a high speed projectile with even less directional control ... the possibilities could be quite scary. Not something I'd wish to put to the test!
I think I'd rather try and shoot out tires ... at least it'd slow the vehicle ... but sudden stop? Can't see that being possible. Nasty - whichever way you look at it.
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Wahabbi Islam?
What the hell is scum like this doing in my country?
Oh now I remember, It was liberal Democrats like swimmer-Ted Kennedy who decided US immigration policy should be less "Eurocentric"
-I'm really confused? What does his religion have to to with this, or even his ethnicity? What wrong with him being in our country, if it's legal?
Wahabbi Islam?
What the hell is scum like this doing in my country?
Oh now I remember, It was liberal Democrats like swimmer-Ted Kennedy who decided US immigration policy should be less "Eurocentric"
-I'm really confused? What does his religion have to to with this, or even his ethnicity? What wrong with him being in our country, if it's legal?
mvpel
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The fruilts of Wahabi Islam
http://www.ajc.org/Terrorism/TestimonyDetail.asp?did=224&pid=1989
Here are the main findings from our report:
http://www.ajc.org/Terrorism/TestimonyDetail.asp?did=224&pid=1989
Here are the main findings from our report:
- Islam is taught as the only true religion and Saudi Arabia is the leader of the Muslim world. Islam is presented as the only true religion, while all other religions are presented as false. Consequently, Muslims are portrayed as superior to followers of all other religions. Islam plays the dominant role in state and society, in the judicial and educational systems, and in everyday life. Saudi Arabia assumes, in turn, a leading role in the Muslim world and sees itself as the champion of Islam.
- Christians and Jews are denounced as infidels. Christians and Jews are presented as enemies of Islam and of Muslims. Therefore, Muslims may not befriend them nor emulate them in any way, lest that lead to love and friendship, which is forbidden.
- The West is a decaying society on its way to extinction, and is the source of past and present misfortunes of the Muslim world. Western civilization is presented in a state of cultural and religious decline, the symptoms of which are the absence of spirituality, the practice of adultery, and the large number of suicides in Western society. The West is also blamed for desiring world domination and targeting the Muslim world by aggressively promoting Western practices, ideologies, and lifestyle habits among Muslim society. In addition, Saudi school children are taught to reject all notions of Western democracy.
- Peace between Muslims and non-Muslims is ostensibly rejected. Saudi Arabian schoolbooks, even grammar books, are full of phrases exalting war, jihad, and martyrdom. And though all forms of terror are rejected by the Saudi Arabian schoolbooks, it appears that such prohibitions do not apply to cases that fall in the categories of jihad and martyrdom.
mvpel
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Surah 8:37 - "Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme."
Surah 8.12 - "When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them."
Surah 47:4 in the Koran: "When you meet the unbelievers, strike off their heads..."
There's some deeply, deeply disturbing video and images available on the net showing how Muslim soldiers go about carrying out this commandment against Russian, Sikh, and Indonesian "infidels" and "unbelievers."
Islam seriously needs all moderate Muslims to step up and lead a reformation and a denunciation of the Koran's intolerance and blood-lust, but considering how the Saudi kingdom is promoting Koranic orthodoxy and educating future generations of Muslims, I'm not particularly hopeful of that happening any time soon.
I'm just gonna throw my hands up on this one. I've tried before to understand and to point out that the old testament is full of the same stuff too, but I'm starting to see a trend on this forum: selective viewing of a world religion.
Even if this gentleman did it for his god doesn't mean we should even consider what a maniac says is the reason for his crime. How many times have we heard "The devil made me do it" or " God told me to do it" from maniacs. It should be a mute point, not an opportunity to attempt to dog yet again a world religion that is no better or worse than any other world religion. But what do I know.
-I give, you guys can have it. Peace out.
-Paco
Even if this gentleman did it for his god doesn't mean we should even consider what a maniac says is the reason for his crime. How many times have we heard "The devil made me do it" or " God told me to do it" from maniacs. It should be a mute point, not an opportunity to attempt to dog yet again a world religion that is no better or worse than any other world religion. But what do I know.
-I give, you guys can have it. Peace out.
-Paco
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mvpel
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Perhaps I can explain it to you
The difference, Paco, is that the Catholic Church, the standard-bearer of the Christian faith, went through a reformation hundreds of years ago, while Islam has yet to do so.
Also, if you take a closer look at the Old Testament, you'll note that the various slaughters therein were commanded against particular peoples. Seen a Caananite, Jebusite, or a Hittite around lately?
No?
What about an "unbeliever" in Islamic parlance, whom strictly-observant Muslims are obligated to make war upon and decapitate - seen any lately?
I see one every day when I wake up and gaze upon my wife, or when I look in the mirror, and I suspect you do too.
And I see thousands of such "unbelievers" brutally enslaved by Muslims in the Sudan, I see gruesome images of torture, decapatation, dismemberment, and murder enthusiastically embraced and endorsed by Muslims and many of their leaders around the world right now, today.
Compare and contrast the commands on the treatment of infidels in the Koran with the argument that Lot had with God about sparing the cities if just a handful of righteous people could be found, for example.
There is a fundamental difference between Christianity as it is practiced today and Islam as it is practiced today. Certainly you can point to centuries-old abuses perpetrated by Christianity and sanctioned by its leadership, but the fact that Islam is seemingly still stuck in the 14th Century is what matters here.
A maniac who says "God told me to murder those people" would be completely out of the bounds of mainstream Christianity as it exists today, while being completely within the bounds of a mainstream interpretation of Islam as it is set forth in Saudi Arabia and elsewhere, and could point to a specific chapter and verse in the Koran, and the pronoucements of a variety of present-day religious authorities, to back up his assertion.
Before the era of political correctness, Winston Churchill described Islam as, “that religion which above all others, was founded and propagated by the sword – the tenets and principles of which are … incentives to slaughter and which in three continents had produced fighting breeds of men (and) stimulates a wild and merciless fanaticism.â€
His observation seems as true today as it was then, considering that some 95% of the active conflicts in the world involve Muslims.
Moderate Muslims need to stand up and rescue their faith from the orthodoxy, just as a few brave Christians stood up to the corruption and abuses of Rome hundreds of years ago. MEMRI has an archive of those Muslims who are working on doing so:
The difference, Paco, is that the Catholic Church, the standard-bearer of the Christian faith, went through a reformation hundreds of years ago, while Islam has yet to do so.
Also, if you take a closer look at the Old Testament, you'll note that the various slaughters therein were commanded against particular peoples. Seen a Caananite, Jebusite, or a Hittite around lately?
No?
What about an "unbeliever" in Islamic parlance, whom strictly-observant Muslims are obligated to make war upon and decapitate - seen any lately?
I see one every day when I wake up and gaze upon my wife, or when I look in the mirror, and I suspect you do too.
And I see thousands of such "unbelievers" brutally enslaved by Muslims in the Sudan, I see gruesome images of torture, decapatation, dismemberment, and murder enthusiastically embraced and endorsed by Muslims and many of their leaders around the world right now, today.
Compare and contrast the commands on the treatment of infidels in the Koran with the argument that Lot had with God about sparing the cities if just a handful of righteous people could be found, for example.
There is a fundamental difference between Christianity as it is practiced today and Islam as it is practiced today. Certainly you can point to centuries-old abuses perpetrated by Christianity and sanctioned by its leadership, but the fact that Islam is seemingly still stuck in the 14th Century is what matters here.
A maniac who says "God told me to murder those people" would be completely out of the bounds of mainstream Christianity as it exists today, while being completely within the bounds of a mainstream interpretation of Islam as it is set forth in Saudi Arabia and elsewhere, and could point to a specific chapter and verse in the Koran, and the pronoucements of a variety of present-day religious authorities, to back up his assertion.
Before the era of political correctness, Winston Churchill described Islam as, “that religion which above all others, was founded and propagated by the sword – the tenets and principles of which are … incentives to slaughter and which in three continents had produced fighting breeds of men (and) stimulates a wild and merciless fanaticism.â€
His observation seems as true today as it was then, considering that some 95% of the active conflicts in the world involve Muslims.
Moderate Muslims need to stand up and rescue their faith from the orthodoxy, just as a few brave Christians stood up to the corruption and abuses of Rome hundreds of years ago. MEMRI has an archive of those Muslims who are working on doing so:
I sometimes despair of that happening within the span of a generation, though, considering that around the world so many Muslims are raising children under the shackles of hate, intolerance, and longing for death.
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