This is my last Hollywood rant -- I PROMISE!!!

[Cyborg]

Two observations:

1) on "one in the pipe vs rack the slide): I am reliably informed that Israeli Special Forces (some of the baddest mike foxtrots on the planet) and Mosaad both practiced racking the slide of their Jerichos (same as U.S. marketed Baby Eagle) even though it is single/double action and works just fine with the hammer down on a loaded chamber. With the de-cocker engaged it is impossible to fire the weapon even if you pull the hammer back by hand and let it go. But ISF and Mosaad did it as a safety measure. Me I carry my Uzi Eagle and my Glock 22 with one in the pipe.

2) on movie accuracy in general: I am into airplanes. Just carry for work and to prepare for SHTF/EOTWAWKI. Hollywood is no better with aircraft than they are with guns. On "Smallville" (ok so I think Erica Durance is super hot) they use a Gulfstream G4 for daytime establishing shots of Green Arrow's corporate jet and a Hawker for the night shots. Completely different aircraft. On "CSI: Miami" recently they reported a G4 inbound from South Africa but showed a quick shot of a Cessna Citation Jet right afterward then followed up with a U.S. REGISTERED (N number on the tail instead of ZS, ZT or ZU ) Citation II taxiing on the tarmac. Anyone with any knowledge of aircraft can spot the differences but Hollywierd can't tell the difference so they don't think anybody can. Why would anyone notice little things like poor gun safety? It's like the myth of Orientals being "inscruitable". I raised an adopted Japanese daughter. Orientals aren't the least bit inscruitable to me. But that is the result of specialized knowledge/experience.

But you would think that their tech advisors would TRY to get them to get it at least in the ballpark of being right.

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Sticking your head in the sand only makes your a** a better target.

 

[heavyshooter]

But you would think that their tech advisors would TRY to get them to get it at least in the ballpark of being right.

This is precisely what I am thinking. I doubt that the most lame firearms advisor would make some of these mistakes.

As it relates to the mistakes with the plane, I do expect them to research these points better because it will make for better entertainment. Having said that, I do not believe much public policy comes from such misrepresentations (careless as they are). I doubt that a movie gaffe concerning a plane can have an indirect effect on the Bill of Rights.

 

[Old Guy]

Boo Boos

A movie I saw years ago, many years ago, title? something that had mummy in it.

The actor, in the desert, with a truck, just him and this mummy we had not seen a mummy yet, when he slammed the door of the truck closed, you got a brief glimpse of a white coveralled individual in the glass!

 

[qajaq59]

This is my last Hollywood rant -- I PROMISE!!!

I wont hold you to your promise because it's good for your blood pressure to rant occasionally. Besides, I often agree with you.

 

[Phil DeGraves]

CSI is so rife with errors that the wrong plane is hardly worth mentioning.

 

[Officers'Wife]

One of the re-run sit-coms (Married with Children I think) has an episode where the family ends up in a Hollyweird studio where the director gives the line- We learn less making these movies than you do watching them.

This is the only accurate statement I've ever seen on TV.

 

[Phil DeGraves]

So Charlton Heston was a moron who knew nothing about guns, correct?

He was testifying as THE PRESIDENT OF THE NRA, not because he made a movie where the character he played was the president of the NRA. If you can't see the difference, well, there are none so blind as those that will not see.

 

[jason10mm]

You guys have to realize that guns are just a means to a dramatic end for movie directors. They want it as a symbol of tension, hence the multiple racks and hammer cocks (I've seen them do SEVERAL slide racks, like in Jason X, losing a round each time!). The effects must be equally dramatic, otherwise the audience, trained in the hollywood "language" might get confused.

If I shoot a guy and he just falls down, did he trip? Pass out? But if I blast his chest apart and he flys through plate glass, you KNOW he is dead! Plus the bad guys need an emotionally and physically satisfying end.

In "The Mummy" the director fully realizes that guns don't rattle, but he added lots of foley effects to the scene in the crypt where the Americans and Brendens group have a showdown. The director thought the gun shake sounds added tension.

I think we ARE being heard. The number of somewhat trained actors and the overall level of "swat team" style scenes is improving. Lots of actors use decent stances, keep their fingers off triggers, and show press checks.

In the editing process trying to keep track of which takes were used, and how many shots were taken, then to insert a reloading sequence, would probably be both impossible and tedious to watch on screen. I prefer to think of such things as precious screen gems (like the entire final fight in "Way of the Gun", perhaps the most accurately portrayed movie gun fight EVER).

 

[GEM]

I love the Mummy movie and watch it endlessly when it reruns. The gun fight on the boat is great! Esp. when Brendan tells the fat merchant to wait here while I go get help and jumps overboard.

Now what round for mummies? None seemed to work. But throwing cats did!

 

[Dr. Fresh]

Anybody seen that movie Snatch?

There's a funny part in the scene where the guys are robbing the bookie with a SPAS-12 and the guy with the shotgun cocks it and an unfired shell clearly flies out and noisily lands on the ground.

I don't know for sure but I think it was an intentional jab at unnecessary gun cocking in movies.

 

[heavyshooter]

There's a funny part in the scene where the guys are robbing the bookie with a SPAS-12 and the guy with the shotgun cocks it and an unfired shell clearly flies out and noisily lands on the ground.

That is hillarious!!!

 

[heavyshooter]

I mentioned this thread to my father and he reminded me of the time when our Pastor used Russian Roulette as an illustration. He repeatedly made reference to the act of "spinning the barrel." He must have said it 5 times. My father leaned over to me and asked, "Spin the barrel? What kind of gun is he using?”