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THR Remington 1858 Club

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Shoot The Moon, Jan 8, 2011.

  1. mykeal

    mykeal Member

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  2. farmer7

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    Thanks for the heads up,I'll bear that in mind! I'm getting a special custom-made sporran holster made for my upcoming haggis hunt.

    Do you think I'll be a bit undergunned with the .44 against haggis? I think I'll chance it.


    :)
     
  3. samcolt1860

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    I don't know. They look pretty ferocious to me.....

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  4. 72coupe

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    I believe I would rather shoot it than eat it. I am sure 30 grains of FFF and a 452 round ball will put down most haggis.
     
  5. treadhead1952

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    I gotta agree with 72coupe, those .452 lead balls will do severe damage to most mortal haggis.;)

    I prefer using 200 grain conicals on the "Zombie Haggis" however.:D
     
  6. BADUNAME30

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    Can i be #170 ?

    Jist pulled 'er out of 'er box.:D
    Narry a finger print on 'er. ( yet);)
    Man, she's jist far too perty to smudge up now.
    I'll dream about 'er tonite and touch 'er on the morrow.
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  7. splattergun

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    aye Jim, that's how I felt about my sheriff model when it was new. But I couldn't wait to feel those curves, spin the cylinder, and check out the fit and finish. Got finger printed muy pronto.

    reminds me of the best girl I let get away
     
  8. mykeal

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    Nope. The next number up is #169. It's the luck of the draw.

    New roster:
    #1 Shoot The Moon, #2 TomADC, #3 fogg64, #4 mykeal, #5 romel, #6 kwhi43, #7rdstrain49, #8 junkman_01, #9 AaronE, #10 jtscuba02, #11 Prairie Dawg, #12 Nalioth, #13 Mizar, #14 BHP FAN, #15 napp, #16 jaymo, #17 theotherwaldo, #18 berkley, #19 Oyeboten, #20 messerist, #21 missuramoss, #22 ojh, #23 txgunsuscg, #24 WALKERs210, #25 BConklin, #26 ClemBert, #27 Hellgate, #28 dtvburns, #29 Loosenock, #30 Ultravox, #31 Otony, #32 45-70 Ranger, #33 Tinpan, 58 #34 1858 Remington, #35 Smokepole14, #36 Howdy Doody, #37Craiso, #38 Phantom Captain, #39 The Black Spot, #40 Martysport, #41 Captain Redbeard, #42 Shanghai McCoy, #43 GlennC22ndMVI (pending photo!), #44 BlackPowderSmoke, #45 Pressure Cleaner, #46 Dudemeister, #47 RhinoDave, #48 Straight-Shooter, #49 Rem1858, #50 grimjaw, #51 TheBigAR2003, #52 Hoof Hearted, #53 kbbailey, #54 Bill Aikins, #55 voodoochile, #56 oam, #57 kameron1858, #58 GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL, #59 72coupe, #60 Gambit88, #61 Olmontanaboy, #62 Cearbhall, #63 bwsmith2850, #64 chute2thrill, #65 Geneseo1911, #66 black_powder_Rob, #67 SleazyRider, #68 Captain*kirk, #69 Dave Markowitz, #70 waynes world, #71 Norton Commando, #72 M2HB M240, #73 BCRider, #74 Bill97222, #75 alienbogey, #76 Hobie, #77 cheatin charlie, #78 shinbone, #79 ExiledBrownCoat, #80 Dellbert, #81 drftman, #82 bax504, #83 One-Time, #84 Danriffle, #85 Indian Outlaw, #86 tpelle, #87 dlon21, #88 zvp, #89 avan47, #90 hongrn, #91 Fingers McGee, #92 MJN, #93 YumaKid, #94 NineMilePete ,#95 sltm1, #96 SC Slowhand, #97 JRogers, #98 Dhunter, #99 Smokin Gun, #100 HUnter58, #101 ChasMack, #102 madmike, #103 Legionnaire, #104 mb3, #105 Red October, #106 Busyhands94, #107 brushhippie, #108 gclefton, #109 Mcgunner, #110 zombiphobia, #111 Cult of 1858, #112 BP Nut, #113 darkerx, #114 longrifle346, #115 Rogue Coder, #116 azyogi, #117 crazysccrmd, #118 kwhi43@kc.rr.com, #119 Montenegrin, #120 gilgsn, #121 Greg528iT, #122 Majes, #123 BigDaddyDave, #124 Nikdfish, #125 mic214, #126 exbrit49, #127 BlackEagle, #128 Beauhooligan, #129 Jaymo, #130 PbBall, #131 towboat er, #132 hang fire, #133 iLikeOldGunsILikeNewGuns, #134 splattergun, #135 ApacheCoTodd, #136 38-55, #137 suzukibruce, #138 Ryden, #139 Black Duck Charlie, #140 Ursus Magnus, #141 dober83, #142 CarbineWilliams, #143 Indy4570, #144 Loosenock, #145 enanmc, #146 skinny1950, #147 7mmstalker, #148 spaniel, #149 SixxshootinSam, #150 Ratdog68, #151 pohill, #152 kBob, #153 usmcchet9296, #154 FreddyKruger, #155 Dan Carey, #156 toolslinger, #157 scrat, #158 Pantheragem, #159 thatfreaknguy, #160 Bob Roberts, #161 savit260, #162 Needles, #163 treadhead1952, #164 mavracer, #165 The Don, #166 1KPerDay, #167 nobody1369, #168 farmer7, #169 Jim, West PA
     
  9. BADUNAME30

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    Nope, not luck o' the drar. My old eyes is to blame :)
     
  10. BADUNAME30

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    splattergun, you brot up a question i've got when you meantioned "Sherrif".
    I ordered a NA but my box says "Steel Sherrif" and it don't say NA or Steel Sherrif on my gun.
    What up wit dat ? :confused:
     
  11. treadhead1952

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    Hi Jim,

    The 5.5 inch barrel on revolvers is termed a "Sherriffs' Model" of most Cap & Ball Revolvers by the Italian gun makers. The "New Army" designation originally differientiated the earlier Remington "Beales" revolver from the later Remington production model. Nowadays most of these terms are applied haphazardly in the best Madison Avenue traditions of marketing and advertising.:rolleyes:
     
  12. BADUNAME30

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    Thanx Jay.
     
  13. splattergun

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    What Tread said. Thanks Treadhead.
     
  14. BADUNAME30

    BADUNAME30 Member

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    Well then, that makes it unan....unan....unan.......ahh..we all agree :D
     
  15. splattergun

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    So Jim, have ya spun that cylinder yet?
     
  16. BADUNAME30

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    No chance to yet splattergun . But DANG is it ever chewin on the back o' my mind !!
    We kind o' got two church 'families' and we're pretty involved in both this weekend. 'sides, still got my grambaby here and when i do wipe that '58 down for the first time i wanna be able to treat 'er like my grambaby...undivided attention ;)
    This comin weekend is the annual birthday picnic tho and i WILL make smoke with 'er saturday.
     
  17. tim josey

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    I'm next!

    This is my entry. 1858 was bought in kit form about 30 years ago. Since then the cold bluing has worn off and has not been shot for about 15 years( to amount to anything.) Getting back into shooting/reloading/casting boolits again since I have found a range about 20 miles away that has all shooting capabilities. Shoots really well with 30 grains with 3F.
    The ball ram was the only thing that came aready blued. LOL

    Tim
     

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  18. kBob

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    tim,

    I like that a lot. Looks like an aged original that had to have the loading lever replaced.

    My wife would kill me if she saw me with vinager and Blumb brown near our new NMA. It still would not look as "good" as 30 years of aging though.

    -kBob
     
  19. BADUNAME30

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    Now that right there is one handsome smoke wagon Tim
     
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    Guys ask me if it is an original and I tell them no- just neglect on my part. Shame on me! Luckily the insides had plenty of oil and stayed covered through the years.
    Tim
     
  21. BADUNAME30

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    Tim, i've heard, but cannot vouch for,that used coffee grounds can help achieve that same look.
    Maybe some research can verify the verasity of this and you could make the ram and base pin match the gun.
    It really is a great look ya got there.
    No matter how ya acheived it :D
     
  22. BADUNAME30

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    Yep :D
    Finaly last night splattergun i checked 'er action.
    OH MY !!!!
    She is TIGHT !!!
    I also noticed that she has no bolt drag at all.
    Sorry to say, i wish my ROA's were as precise.
     
  23. mykeal

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  24. splattergun

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    Swweet! Just make sure all the little crevices are clean of factory oil ( I've read that they use olive oil, FWIW). The wood in the handles will clean up with just a good wipe.

    My 5.5 shot about 4" low at 25 yds when I first took it out using the .451 balls the factory recommends. I was irritated at first, then tried .454 RB. POI came up to just 1" low. Windage is right on. I'm still debating myself whether to file the front sight. For just 1" I might just learn to live with it, maybe adjust myself before I grind on the gun.

    I have just taken up boolit-molding, but I haven't had a chance to try out my new 200 gr conicals yet. Many people seem to prefer the .454 out of those 3 load choices. Maybe I'll get that mould, too.
     
  25. treadhead1952

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    You can put me in that .454" Club as well. Not knowing what it would like to shoot I tried some .451" Round Balls first and had pretty much the same results as splattergun did. Luckily I had a partial box of Speer .454" Round Balls laying in the corner of one of my shooting bags and found that those seemed to be just the thing for my Pietta 5.5" 1858. Once I got my C&R License and an account with Midway and Mr. Potter I scored the .454" 200 grain Lee Aluminum conical bullet mold. Haven't looked back since.
     

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