Phaetos
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If you really don't want it, I'll give you my address and you can ship it to me. 
Tired of 10/22
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Essex County
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Although the Ruger has many fans and an aftermarket that rivals the 1911, I've never owened one. Been quite happy with the CZ, Mossberg and Remington bolt guns. I have owned a Marlin 60 and a Nylon 66, but wasn't in love with either. I feel a good used Mossy is unbeatable for value..Essex
mljdeckard
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People ask which .22 to get to use for everything, I tell them a 10/22 every time.
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New ones are not so great
I have an old one that is about 12 years old and it hums right along. I wanted to get the boy a new nice first gun. I found a 10/22 with a cheap scope so we had a Merry Christmas.
Then we head to the range. bang-jam. bang-jam. bang-jam. I check it, nothing. The 'Gun Smith' checks it: verdict you need to shoot it more....
Two trips and 1200 rounds later bang. bang, bang jam. bang bang jam and so on. Factory mags, all kinds of ammo. . A pissed off dad, a disappointed kid and the last Ruger I will ever buy....
The kid grew up learning on mom's bolt Remington and his own Red Ryder. If I could do it all over again I would have gone bolt or lever action probably Remington. What kid wants a broken gun for Christmas that has to go back and forth to the factory? But he can't get a first .22 ever again so:
Begin rant...
Between Ruger's anti 2A stance and now shoddy workmanship on firearms that are mostly average with above average prices I don't see how they stay in business. In this country people mostly vote with their wallet and so shall I.
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I have an old one that is about 12 years old and it hums right along. I wanted to get the boy a new nice first gun. I found a 10/22 with a cheap scope so we had a Merry Christmas.
Then we head to the range. bang-jam. bang-jam. bang-jam. I check it, nothing. The 'Gun Smith' checks it: verdict you need to shoot it more....
Two trips and 1200 rounds later bang. bang, bang jam. bang bang jam and so on. Factory mags, all kinds of ammo. . A pissed off dad, a disappointed kid and the last Ruger I will ever buy....
The kid grew up learning on mom's bolt Remington and his own Red Ryder. If I could do it all over again I would have gone bolt or lever action probably Remington. What kid wants a broken gun for Christmas that has to go back and forth to the factory? But he can't get a first .22 ever again so:
Begin rant...
Between Ruger's anti 2A stance and now shoddy workmanship on firearms that are mostly average with above average prices I don't see how they stay in business. In this country people mostly vote with their wallet and so shall I.
End rant...
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Of my .22s, the 10/22RR is my least enjoyable to shoot... for me, it just doesn't have a purpose. For accuracy, my CZ 452 Varmint trumps it by far. For plinking, my Henry is more fun (working the action, larger capacity, faster reloads) and my Browning Buckmark more challenging. For game getting, even my .22 conversion kits have proven more reliable than the 10/22. I'm holding on to it for that day when I have nothing but money and time to throw at a project gun... but, realistically, if that day comes I'm going to be buying and shooting OTHER guns.
I own a Mariln .22, and I'm not very impressed, i'd go with the CZ (never shot one, but I've held one and it's nice fit and finish.
On the 10/22 though, you can spend under $100 for a trigger job (if you install it yourself) and tighten up those mag springs, and you've got a pretty good shooting rifle...IMO
On the 10/22 though, you can spend under $100 for a trigger job (if you install it yourself) and tighten up those mag springs, and you've got a pretty good shooting rifle...IMO
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I have a CZ 452 American in .22lr that I enjoy shooting. It normally shoots about .5" to 1" five shot groups at 50 yards depending on how well I am shooting, range conditions and what type of ammunition I am using (so far I have had the best luck with the cheap federal bulk packages from walmart). I currently am probably the limiting factor on how well this rifle shoots. While these groupings may not be great compared to some, I have noticed a definite improvement the more I shoot the CZ.
I like the CZ because it looks and feels similar to a larger caliber rifle when compared to some of the other brands that I looked at. I bought mine from a local gunship for under $450 new including the cost of a new 4X scope and rings. When searching on the internet for an affordable yet accurate .22 bolt action rifle it seemed to be the opinion that the CZ was a good value when comparing price to accuracy.
On the down side magazines can be somewhat expensive ($20-35 depending on where you look) for a .22.
I have never shot a Marlin or Remington bolt action .22lr to compare it to the quality of the CZ seemed to be better when I was looking, at least with the examples I saw.
I like the CZ because it looks and feels similar to a larger caliber rifle when compared to some of the other brands that I looked at. I bought mine from a local gunship for under $450 new including the cost of a new 4X scope and rings. When searching on the internet for an affordable yet accurate .22 bolt action rifle it seemed to be the opinion that the CZ was a good value when comparing price to accuracy.
On the down side magazines can be somewhat expensive ($20-35 depending on where you look) for a .22.
I have never shot a Marlin or Remington bolt action .22lr to compare it to the quality of the CZ seemed to be better when I was looking, at least with the examples I saw.
I bought some Winchester Expert a box O 550 rnds my 10/22 jammed 3 to 4 rnds out of ten But with CCI mini mags maybe 1 out of 300 will jam and with CCI Blazer I shot a 100 rnds trouble free And Remington sub-sonic has been jam free with 300 rnds.
My guess is the problem is the powder or the shell case dimensions.
I fed the Win. Experts to my bolt action and they shot ok.
But with CCI mini mags maybe 1 out of 300 will jam and with CCI Blazer I shot a 100 rnds trouble free And Remington sub-sonic has been jam free with 300 rnds.My guess is the problem is the powder or the shell case dimensions.
I fed the Win. Experts to my bolt action and they shot ok.
Husker1911
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ANY .22lr auto, rifle or pistol, will vary in the brands/varieties of ammunition it will or won't cycle. Like you've done, one must try various brands/styles of ammo to find the wants/needs of a particular auto. It's not necessarily a reflection of the quality of any one type of ammunition, it's just the way of the world with .22 autos.
As far as one particular example of a model being proof of "shoddy workmanship," that's rather narrow thinking. My dislike of a certain Brazilian manufacturer stems from numerous examples of shoddy workmanship, not just one. Company politics, now that I understand and endorse the disdain myself.
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Well, I'd recommend a Ruger Model 96 lever action, but if you don't like the 10/22 you won't like one with a lever either...so either a Henry (cheap and awesome)or Marlin 39a (expensive and awesome). But, I wouldn't get a Browning, foreign (at least asian foreign) guns don't interest me.
1KPerDay
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My JC Whitney auto is supposed to work with shorts, longs, and long rifles... only ever tried LR in it, though.
Not so. My Remmie 552 shoots longs and shorts too!
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/rimfire_rifles/model_552_speedmaster.asp
Sniper X
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Unless you only want an automatic 22 get the Marlin 39a and youll love and covet it forever. It is the nicest .22 to shoot and own in my opinion. I loved mine but sold it to buy a Colt Dimondback when I was a kid so I have allways regretted that sale, not the purchase of the Dimondback though!
Ive had an amt lightning since '94, only had a few jams here & there,it works well with high capacity mags,too. its basicly a stainless copy of the 10/22.i have an old nylon 66 from the early 60,s that is very reliable, never jammed once.for about 150-200 its a cool little rifle.theres also a charles daly superior 22 bolt for about 150.00, made by zastava in yugoslavia, its a lot or rifle for 150.00 as well...
I've owned several 10/22s over the years and they all shot flawlessly. Admittedly the factory trigger isn't the best, but it works. There are so many aftermarket parts for the 10/22, that it's a fairly simple matter to up grade the factory parts.
Having said that, I own both a Marlin 39a and a CZ 452 Lux. They are both wonderful rifles and you would have no regrets no matter which one you buy (first)
Marlin 39a Made the same way they were 100 years ago. All walnut and steel, lots of machining. This is a gun that will last several generations. Best for hunting and casual plinking, although they can be surprisingly accurate.
CZ-452. Made the old world way, all steel and walnut. (except for the magazine well) They have an adjustable trigger that is truly wonderful. Best for hunting plinking and target shooting. These rifles frequently keep up with much more expensive gun in matches. This is my "go to" all around rifle.
MCgunner
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DAYum, when did JC Whitney start sellin' guns? Next time I order a VW steering damper or a trailer hitch or a fake CB Radio antenna or somethin', maybe I'll check out that .22!
1KPerDay
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D'oh!!!!!!! LOL
I meant JC Higgins, of course. I've been spending too much time browsing motorcycle accessories.
I meant JC Higgins, of course. I've been spending too much time browsing motorcycle accessories.
How about a Marlin bolt action?
I have a Marlin 881 tube fed bolt action I purchased a month ago in well rusted condition for 85 dollars. I took it home, cleaned the rust off with breakfree and 0000 steel wool, and mounted a 25 dollar BSA 2x 22 special scope on it. Last week I took it out to the range and found out that it will print 1/2 inch 3 shot groups at 50 yards with Federal Champian high velocity.
I have a Marlin 881 tube fed bolt action I purchased a month ago in well rusted condition for 85 dollars. I took it home, cleaned the rust off with breakfree and 0000 steel wool, and mounted a 25 dollar BSA 2x 22 special scope on it. Last week I took it out to the range and found out that it will print 1/2 inch 3 shot groups at 50 yards with Federal Champian high velocity.
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I have a marlin 39A manufactured in 1946. It does not have the microgrooved barreling. I love this gun. It is very smooth to operate and it is as accurate as I am at .22 distances. It had a scope but I took it off as I wanted it in original configuration. The wood is beautiful and the finish is nice to look at. Compared to the 10/22, well....both send bullets down range but one does it will style and class, one is just a tube with an ignition device on the rear. No jamming on the Ruger as long as I keep it clean.
As for loading the tube mag. that is not a problem as this is not a combat arm. It is a load of fun to shoot and the lines are classic. If you can find a 39A from the 1950's or earlier, get it. There are some out there.
As for loading the tube mag. that is not a problem as this is not a combat arm. It is a load of fun to shoot and the lines are classic. If you can find a 39A from the 1950's or earlier, get it. There are some out there.
Shrinkmd
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I was in the store the other day and got to handle one. It feels like a real rifle, and a piece of history, even though it was brand new. I don't have any lever actions yet, so I'm leaning toward picking one up. I was also considering a .22lr upper, but I haven't heard very good things (actually, not much at all) about the bushmaster 20" A2 profile upper, and one from some other company costs almost a grand.
Maybe I should just get a cowboy hat for the range and get the 39a?
Maybe I should just get a cowboy hat for the range and get the 39a?
10MMGary
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I have a original golden 39AS and several 1022s and I just sold a CZ Scout rifle in 22LR. I may be the exception but I like all three. All are different but all are great 22s and like it or not two are true American classic. I have had old Rugers and still have new Rugers and have never had the very first problem with any of my 1022s ever when using Ruger factory mags. However it must happen to some because I read it too many times online for it to be a conspiracy or myth.
I do have to ad that my model 39 had multiple misfires with several brands of ammo and a second hammer strike is required to fire. It is only 100% reliable thus far with Winchester Power Points. The gun looked as if it was safe queen years back when I bought it pre-owned from a local shop. It had this issue from the day I got it. It very likely is nothing more than a bad firing pin but I just shoot PPs in it and have been too lazy to get it solved.
I will also ad that the only reason I sold the CZ was to fund a AR purchase and it was the odd gun out due to being for youthful or small stature shooters. It was totally reliable and accurate as any shorter barreled 22 I have ever shot. Plus it had an adjustable trigger.
Now coming from a man whos model 39 will only function reliably with Power Points this may sounds silly , but I have to ask why you never sent the gun back to Ruger? They have outstanding CS and would have made it right or replaced the 1022 with a new one. In case you can't tell I do love my Rugers. Camoed 1022 at bottom is a 22Mag I recently aquired.
I do have to ad that my model 39 had multiple misfires with several brands of ammo and a second hammer strike is required to fire. It is only 100% reliable thus far with Winchester Power Points. The gun looked as if it was safe queen years back when I bought it pre-owned from a local shop. It had this issue from the day I got it. It very likely is nothing more than a bad firing pin but I just shoot PPs in it and have been too lazy to get it solved.
I will also ad that the only reason I sold the CZ was to fund a AR purchase and it was the odd gun out due to being for youthful or small stature shooters. It was totally reliable and accurate as any shorter barreled 22 I have ever shot. Plus it had an adjustable trigger.
Now coming from a man whos model 39 will only function reliably with Power Points this may sounds silly
, but I have to ask why you never sent the gun back to Ruger? They have outstanding CS and would have made it right or replaced the 1022 with a new one. In case you can't tell I do love my Rugers. Camoed 1022 at bottom is a 22Mag I recently aquired.
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Shrinkmd
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Good news
Not to revive a really dead old thread, but I finally swapped out the factory extractor with the Volquartsen one I purchased, well, probably a year or two ago. You know how you sometimes just forget a project and move on to something else? Well, I was found the part in the projects bin, and about 20 minutes later it was in. Gee, 2 or 3 years and 20 minutes.
A few days ago I finally got it out to the range. The first 100 rounds were absolutely flawless, of the same Federal bulk pack stuff which was stovepiping before. I compared the factory extractor and the Volquartsen, what a difference! Why doesn't Ruger just include that one in the first place?
Anyway, now I can start dreaming about barrels, stocks, trigger group, etc. I actually really enjoy my 39A, but at least this rifle appears to be functioning now.
One project down, many to go...
Not to revive a really dead old thread, but I finally swapped out the factory extractor with the Volquartsen one I purchased, well, probably a year or two ago. You know how you sometimes just forget a project and move on to something else? Well, I was found the part in the projects bin, and about 20 minutes later it was in. Gee, 2 or 3 years and 20 minutes.
A few days ago I finally got it out to the range. The first 100 rounds were absolutely flawless, of the same Federal bulk pack stuff which was stovepiping before. I compared the factory extractor and the Volquartsen, what a difference! Why doesn't Ruger just include that one in the first place?
Anyway, now I can start dreaming about barrels, stocks, trigger group, etc. I actually really enjoy my 39A, but at least this rifle appears to be functioning now.
One project down, many to go...
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had a Model 70 Marlin not a papoose either a reg wood stocked 7 shot removable magazine fed carbine when i was a kid my dad still has it, its actually his. It was accurate and I loved it wish i had it now. I have a 10/22 it gathers dust in the closet mostly cant say its been a bad gun though, have a henry 22 mag its been a good shooting rifle cant say as if i didnt pay to much for it though. Would love to have a 39A.
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