To wheel gun only or not to wheel gun only

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The statement currently has the potential implication that one is in the process of learning or doing something.

I have been in a fair piece of non-range situations, and shooting one handed has been a mark in my favor on a number of those occasions.
 
Archaic Weapon said:
The statement currently has the potential implication that one is in the process of learning or doing something.
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It also has the potential implication that the person is satisfied with poor performance and has no desire to improve.
I have been in a fair piece of non-range situations, and shooting one handed has been a mark in my favor on a number of those occasions.
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But if you used two hands, it would've reflected unfavorably?
 
They range from bright to plum to blue to black...but my favorite is purple ...

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OK, I don't actually have an purple gun...but I do have what they call cayenne.

I have military guns from the late 1800s to 1950s, and black rifles, and sporting guns in semi-auto, bolt, lever, and single-shot configurations. Some are highly finished wood, some are rough black plastic. I have handguns that fought in wars in the 1800s, in both world wars, and guns that were never designed for fighting.

...and I think that, as a general rule, using the DA pull on a DA revolver, and two hands, is better technique.
 
Umm...... yeah you should carry what you like and what works for you.

Limiting oneself to one type of handgun seems silly to me since there are so many options and all handguns have utility. Some are just better at doing certain things than others. I would never think "I only want and will own revolvers/semis/striker fired/hammer fired/ steel/ polymer." I was a wheel gunner for life myself for carry, until the XDs .45 came out. Then I saw how useful it was.

But again, do what you like.

As far as being under gunned? I think a 5 shot revolver is enough gun to carry in 99% of the situations you may ever find yourself in. If it isn't enough gun, would a 18 round 9mm be any better? It may, it may not. My guess is that if producing a gun of any kind isn't enough to deter or stop a two legged threat, then there are several attackers or they have gotten the drop on you. JMO I still say carry what you think you need, and practice until youy are proficient enough to feel comfortable with your skills. We all live in different environments. I rotate based on what I'm wearing and potential threat between a Ruger SP101, a J frame, and an XDs. For woods, I like more juice. For the small town I live in, a 38 revolver is enough for me.

If I lived on the south side of Chicago, I'd carry an AR pistol under a coat. Been there, scared me, never going back.
 
David E wrote,
I think the Beretta 92 would be ideal for this.
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I know you have access to just about anything, what are the Beretta's characteristics that would make this pistol the "ideal" choice?
 
If you're a Sharpshooter or better, you SHOULD be able to make those hits with a revolver if you're taking .25 - .30 for each trigger pull.
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Unfortunately, for whatever reason, I too frequently mess up due to recoil and managing the DA trigger. Now that I think about it, it is probably how I am managing the trigger return under recoil. I will play with it. I can shoot my 617 quite fast, so maybe I have something going on with my grip that throws some shots out.

Reloads just need movie time--lots of reps while watching Netflix. I have Azoom Snap Caps, but they seem undersized and too light. Would using reloaded dud rounds provide significantly higher quality practice?
 
tomrkba said:
Reloads just need movie time--lots of reps while watching Netflix. I have Azoom Snap Caps, but they seem undersized and too light. Would using reloaded dud rounds provide significantly higher quality practice?
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Reloads need your time. My advice is to skip the Netflix, and focus on quality practice. Doing revolver reloads well and fast means getting your mind hardwired to do a bunch of movements smoothly, not sloppily.

Yes, dummy rounds, IMO, are much better than snap caps for reloading.
 
I think that in most cases a person would be well served with a revolver only. Just like in most cases a person would be well served with a semi-auto only. Of course there are always exceptions to the rule, but that is true regardless of what you choose to carry.
 
MrBorland said:
Reloads need your time. My advice is to skip the Netflix, and focus on quality practice. Doing revolver reloads well and fast means getting your mind hardwired to do a bunch of movements smoothly, not sloppily.

Yes, dummy rounds, IMO, are much better than snap caps for reloading.
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Ditto!

And I emphasize the word DUMMY rounds over the term "DUD" rounds.
 
But here's a fun little experiment to try...

Take a revolver shooter and an autoloader shooter; the revolver with an empty cylinder and the autoloader with one empty magazine.
Give them both 50 rounds each.
No loading devices or tools, just their thumbs and fingers.
Blow the whistle and see who can shoot all 50 of their rounds the quickest.
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We then need a shotgun and rifle version of this test...

Side by side shotgun vs. a Browning Double Automatic... one box of shells, 25 rounds as fast as either can chew.

The rifle version...

Uh... I don't know. Lever vs. AR?
 
I prefer revolvers as my primary SD gun but still keep a 9mm loaded with a fifteen round magazine in it, and several more magazines nearby, as a backup.
 
My questions are how many here are strictly wheelie men and do you ever feel undergunned?
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Not I but I am also carrying thirty three rounds of forty five in addition to my five shot three fifty seven. :D
 
I own both and strongly feel there is room for both in this world. The correct answer is to be proficient with a wide array of pistols so you are versatile enough to handle anything.

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AABEN said:
Heck NO is is easy to keep your brass that way I do not loose any. Auto throws it every where. That was a bad question!!
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There is a school of thought on revolvers that says policing your brass during practice (as in pocketing the empties after every reload) is a potentially dangerous error in training. This comes from a famous shootout where a revolver-equipped combatant was found dead with empty brass in his hand/pocket. The reasoning goes, "he was dealing with empties during a fight, and he died, ergo dealing with empties when he should have been fighting got him killed." That is of course not correct use of logic but it may be compelling rhetoric. The follow up supposition is, "he was dealing with empties when he should have been fighting because he pocketed empties when he trained and he followed his training." That is of course speculation, but speculation that conforms to the narrative.

I believe the poster who commented on firing a single cylinder and going home was obliquely referencing the above school of thought.
 
AABEN said:
Heck NO is is easy to keep your brass that way I do not loose (sic) any. Auto throws it every where. That was a bad question!!
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No, it wasn't. Unless you're only firing six rounds and going home, you WILL have loose brass to contend with. You clarified that you shoot more than 6 rounds and therefore have to deal with the spent cases.

How you're retaining/keeping your revolver brass matters. It can affect practicality, speed and, perhaps, even survivability.

So, how are you retaining your spent cases in a "6, reload, 6" drill?
 
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Picking up brass (or spent magazines) should be secondary to developing good habits.
 
There is a school of thought on revolvers that says policing your brass during practice (as in pocketing the empties after every reload) is a potentially dangerous error in training. This comes from a famous shootout where a revolver-equipped combatant was found dead with empty brass in his hand/pocket. The reasoning goes, "he was dealing with empties during a fight, and he died, ergo dealing with empties when he should have been fighting got him killed." That is of course not correct use of logic but it may be compelling rhetoric. The follow up supposition is, "he was dealing with empties when he should have been fighting because he pocketed empties when he trained and he followed his training." That is of course speculation, but speculation that conforms to the narrative.
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It was a CHP firefight. Four officers died. Training across the country began to shift afterwards. Newhall Incident. That link references a wide training revamping, but does not go into detail about the how and why.
 
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