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Today's headlines (Immigration)

Discussion in 'Legal' started by drinks, Apr 10, 2006.

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  1. drinks

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    I have been slapped down on thr, tfl and several other PC , liberal , bleeding heart forums for warning that the Aztlan movement was actively moving to occupy and take control of the western part of the USA.
    Today, you see the opening moves of the visible part.
    A columnist for the biggest criminal alien invader newspaper in New York, stated on radio, that there is nothing the USA citizens can do now, the criminal alien invaders are now here in such numbers that they can dictate to the Congress and blatently ignore all laws they do not like.
    We have been asleep at the switch and voting booth,we have given our country to the great unwashed criminal alien invaders.
    How do we let our congress critters know we are fed up with them and the rest of the worthless burecrats?
    Is there still time to do it without blood , or are we past that point?
    Are there still any who believe WE own this country?
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  2. Biker

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    I hope that there is still time to work within the system.
    However, the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
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  3. odysseus

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    While I am not endorsing fully your perspective on the extreme end of it, there are many within these "shows" of people as of late who do harbor resentment for our country and those non mexican. It's the typical rotten apples in the bunch.

    Now a question of mine of late is how the "silent majority" is taking in all this. I know for a fact that the polls only a year ago indicated close to 75% of Americans want illegal immigration stopped. However if you look at the media lately, it's as though that never happened and the minority of loud mouths out there are holding the common mindset. Hell, they can't even fairly represent the difference between legal immigration, and illegal crossing. I wish there could be a vote on these items, and not have it stuck in DC with their ineptitude and lack of candor and strength on this matter.

    To make it gun related, I seem to find this also relative to the silent groups of what I would call stable Americans who are not afraid of firearms who remain silent against those loud smaller groups who continue to misinform and bend the truth (Brady lobby).
     
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    The longer you pretend the kettle isnt boiling, the bigger the explosion in the end.
     
  5. SnakeEater

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    I really wish that somehow we could display a show of force that would make the illegals marches look pathetic. Why are "we" so apethetic? I'm personally ready to lock n load and take to the streets NOW.
     
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    Snake you aren't the only one. Gas doesn't burn without a spark though.
     
  8. crazed_ss

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    :uhoh:

    Go ahead. I'm sure you'll get many more people to join your cause once the media shows footage of a deranged man with a rifle shooting down protesters in the street.
     
  9. tellner

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    Boy, this is whole thing took no time at all to turn ugly. On one side "For La Raz, everything! For the gringo, nothing!" - a direct quote, by the bye. On the other "randomly pick one night every week where we will kill whoever crosses the border." - another word-for-word. How long before both sides are quoting the Aryan Nations slogan "Your skin is your uniform"?

    Somewhere along the line the real issues of how much immigration is good, how much will just depress wages and further unravel our social contract, and who should be allowed to work or live here under what conditions have been lost. It's a shame, since they are important ones which need to be addressed.
     
  10. 50caliber123

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    I think snakeeater is trying to say we need to give the illegals a run for their money. If 2000 of the illegals and their supporters protest, 4000 or more anti-illegal immigration believers should show up. Violence may occur down the road, but I neither support nor endorse it.
     
  11. gunsmith

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    we have to do the work our gov't doesn't want to

    it's really depressing
    http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/
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    One of the persons killed was Debbie Thomas, shown here, who was the mother of three. She was killed in a head-on collision on Christmas Eve 2003 when her car was struck by a car being driven in the wrong direction. The offending driver, Narciso Garcia-Jimenez, escaped from his hospital bed and is still at large. The car he drove had no inspection sticker and was registered to another person. When Debbie's mom learned that her daughter's killer had not been killed in the wreck but had escaped, she said she felt "angry, bitter and sad, all at once."

    remember that guy who held his daughter up as a human sheild while shooting at cops? pena&daughter.jpg



    Raul Pena and daughter Suzie Jose Raul Pena is shown here with his daughter Suzie. An illegal alien from El Salvador earlier deported for cocaine possession, he was the doting father who used the little girl as a human shield in an hours-long Los Angeles shootout with police on July 10. Pena and Suzie were both killed.

    During the incident, Pena used a 9-millimeter Beretta pistol which had been stolen last year in a burglary in Oregon. His office at the car dealership contained a bag of cocaine and a half-drunk bottle of Tequila — consistent with the illegal Pena's previous deportation for cocaine possession.
    Videotape captured images of Pena shooting at the police while holding his daughter, yet his relatives are questioning not only whether he used his daughter as a shield, but whether he was even armed at all, according to the Los Angeles Times.
     
  12. odysseus

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    Wow, definitely gets the blood up...
     
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    We might lose the U.S.A. but we could still win in Iraq. :uhoh:
     
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    I, too, have posted on THR links to places like Mexia Movement, which is a radical Reconquista organization.

    I have posted links to sites wherein Aztlan types had proudly taken photos of themselves with their "Deport Gringos to Europe" signs and their signs declaring "%*&& You, This is STILL Mexico," and their Reconquista flags, etc.

    And my threads were all locked by THR Mods.

    In fact, the one I posted about the signs that say "F*&K You, This STILL Mexico" was closed down because of "profanity."

    I'm not the one using the "profanity." It's the word that the Reconquista Radicals are using on THEIR signs and THEIR bumper stickers...........

    Again, a radical group of foreign nationals inside the USA wanting to turn part of the USA into some other country has everything to do with civil rights, including gun rights.

    This is not racism, this is not right-wing conspiracy stuff. This is what is happening and is being documented all over the country.

    Let me ask this.

    Would everyone be reluctant to condenm a march wherein white supremacists were marching and calling for Neo-Nazis to move to Washington state and declare their own little "white homeland?"

    Of course not. All sorts of THR folks would be yelling about those Neo-Nazi nuts.

    Well, the Aztlan, Mexia.org, meCHA, La Raza types are exactly like the Neo-Nazis, only they are the slightly darker-skinned, southern version.

    They are radical, racist, and right here in significant numbers.

    http://www.mexica-movement.org/granmarcha.htm


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  15. boofus

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    Texas fought to be free from <Mexico> once before and we can do it again regardless of what that fat drunken murderer from massachusetts promises the illegals.

    The hispanics that lived in the area that is now Texas wanted nothing to do with the corrupt mexican government even back then. Many died fighting on the side of Texas at the Alamo and many ex-mexicans were instrumental in the writing of the constitution of the Republic of Texas.

    These illegal invaders however have no desire to be free or even Americans. They want to turn TX back into mexico. If I march in a 'protest' I'll be carrying a rifle.
     
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    Well, Dallas and other Texas cities seemed to tolerate when the New Black Panthers marched in protest while toting rifles and shotguns...

    .... maybe we should see if that "tolerance" should apply to the melanin-deficient, as well... :cool:
     
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    Can anyone here show me where Illegal Immigrants are expressing their desire to take over the Southwest? An interview or essay or something.. show me one comment from a farm worker or roof layer where he/she states that their ultimate goal is this "Aztlan" crap you all seem to believe so strongly in.

    Trying to paint everyone in these marches as being incahoots with La Raza-Type extremists is akin to me calling all of the minutemen racist because a number of extremists have participated in their demonstrations.
     
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    Why is it people here constantly have to make this into a whites vs them issue?
     
  19. Biker

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    Well SS, it seems that 'they' have made it a race issue.
    La Raza=The Klan With A Tan.

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  20. crazed_ss

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    Exactly. The Klan is an extremist fringe organzation. And if I lump all whites in with the Klan, that would be pretty stupid of me wouldnt it? But that's exactly what everyone's doing here.. lumping in a whole group of people based on the ranting of extremists.
     
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    :) :) !!
     
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    When I lived in California the Aztlan movement was meeting in Riverside Ca. advocating the violent takeover of California.

    My crystal ball says "I predict closurer of this thread".
     
  23. Biker

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    Unlike the Klan, La Raza has chapters on college campuses throughout the US, are accepted in the American media and have a lot of political pull. Roberto Gonzales was a member of La Raza at one point. Not exactly a "fringe group", eh?
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  24. TexasRifleman

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    While what you say is true, I don't remember seeing hundreds of thousands of Klan members at a rally in downtown LA carrying signs advocating overthrowing of the government etc.

    This link posted earlier,
    http://www.mexica-movement.org/granmarcha.htm
    is a bit bigger than your average Klan rally, but look at the signs and mantra of their organization. Their slogan is even "It's not racist to confront white racism". Come on, that's a very old tactic, call the other guy a racist first then you are "protected".

    It is clear from the signs and wording of their organizations creed that these ARE racist organizations, some of them advocating violence and even the overthrowing of the US government.

    It's racist, treasonous, and dangerous. In this case the extremists outnumber the calm, cool, and collected.
     
  25. seeker_two

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    Why is it that reading comprehension is no longer taught in public school? :rolleyes:

    Read the link & the story I posted SLOWLY & CAREFULLY. Take notes if necessary. Then, you may have a different perspective of the issue...
     
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