Victim Shoots Robber-VA

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Alert from VCDL:

(Hampton, VA, December 14th, 2004, 6:54 a.m.) *On the Peninsula,
it's the bad guy lying in a hospital bed, while his intended victim
is unscathed. Your NewsChannel 3's Kathleen Carey has the story of
the victim that fought back.

Hampton Police say it's a case of an armed robber going after the
wrong guy. Instead of a Hampton man becoming the victim of an armed
robbery, Hampton Police say he turned the tables on his attacker. In
the parking lot behind the "Treasure Chest" nightclub on East
Pembroke Avenue, police drew circles around empty shell casings,
drawing the conclusion that 22-year old Tony Kensler, Jr. Newport
News pulled-out a gun to rob a man, just to be surprised that his
intended victim fought back.

That man had a permit for a concealed weapon, and he's the one who
got off the shots, hitting Kensler in the arm, leg and chest. Police
say it was self defense, and those who we spoke with agree. Sarah
Daniel lives nearby, "I think he had every right to do what he did.
If someone came up to me, I'd use any means of self defense that I
had." Charli is an employee of the club, but wasn't working the night
of the shooting. Still, she has an opinion, "I think the bad guys
need to have something happen to them for a change, instead of always
have some innocent person die."

Kensler, listed in fair condition at Riverside Regional Medical
Center, is charged with possession of a firearm by a convicted felon
and possession of crack cocaine. Police are looking for another
person who may have been helping Kensler. There was a car parked near
the scene of the incident that could be involved in the stick-up
attempt. Police say inside the car was a second suspect who they are
still looking for. That's why they haven't released the name of the
victim. They don't want to jeopardize the ongoing investigation.

The gentleman's club has surveillance video of the incident and the
owner says she is cooperating with Hampton Police. Police are
reviewing the tapes, hoping to identify the getaway car. Kathleen
Carey spoke to Kensler's mother. She didn't go on camera, but says
she goes on the record of believing that her son is innocent. She
says her son shot as he was being robbed. The investigation
continues. Call The Crimeline at 1-888-LOCK-U-UP if you can help
police crack this case.

TC
TFL Survivor
 
Kathleen
Carey spoke to Kensler's mother. She didn't go on camera, but says
she goes on the record of believing that her son is innocent. She
says her son shot as he was being robbed.

Why, when some miscreant gets shot in the commision of a crime, does the family INVARIABLY think the would be attacker is in no way responsible or guilty. It seems like every time I read one of these stories, without fail, the family says "he didn't nuthin' wrong."

Well, except for the whole felon in possesion of drugs and guns I guess you could say that.

Good on the would be victim for changing his status mid crime. Bless the VCDL too.
 
>>Kathleen Carey spoke to Kensler's mother.

I see this reporter went to the Dan bin Rather School of Unbiased News Sources.

Actually,fish2xs, going to any simple journalism school will tell you to talk to as many people as you can. Getting everybody's story is being unbiased. If the reporter wanted to be biased they would not have made any attempt to get the perps side of the story. Now don't get me wrong, I'm glad that this guy got shot. If the story went down like it seems, and it probably did, then he got what he deserved. However, this reporter was actually doing her job and NOT being biased by interviewing the perp's mom.

You wouldn't be biased now would you, Fish? ;)

Calhoun
 
I think that the shooter needs to work on his draw from concelment,sights and trigger control. Should have had all 3 in COM.

Oneshooter
Livin in Texas
 
How did the mother know?

Getting everybody's story is being unbiased.---

Adding the mothers statement to the story, without explaining how the mother knew her son was shot while being robbed, is IMO very weak reporting. The unchallenged/unqualified statement does bias story.


Respectfully,


jdkelly
 
Why, when some miscreant gets shot in the commision of a crime, does the family INVARIABLY think the would be attacker is in no way responsible or guilty. It seems like every time I read one of these stories, without fail, the family says "he didn't nuthin' wrong."

denial. plain and simple.

some idiot 18 or 19 year old recently shot a guy and his mother said he was innocent even though he's been locked up 30 times since he was 13 for various reasons.

yet she wants to keep believing her "little angel" didnt do it. :rolleyes:

i just dont get it, how can people deny what their kids or relatives are doing with their lives? i know as a parent i want to believe my kids are smart well behaved and so on and so forth but sometimes that isnt true, sometimes they do stupid things, and i cant deny it. sometimes they do bad or wrong things, denying it isnt going to change it. thankfully my kids dont act like savages and hopefully they never will.


Kensler, listed in fair condition at Riverside Regional Medical
Center, is charged with possession of a firearm by a convicted felon
and possession of crack cocaine.

and his mother believes he was being robbed of what? his crack? a felon with a gun and drugs and she beleives he's innocent. i can certainly see how that poor soul turned out the way he did, his mother is a bad parent.

part of being parent means coming to grips with reality of what your kids do or could do, obviously she didnt want to believe her son did any wrong so all she saw was a sweet innocent child. so because she didnt want to believe her son did any wrong he DIDNT do any wrong even when he did. such a mindset is dangerous, for the parent as well as the child. he deserves to be punished but i feel sorry for him, had he been raised by a more realistic person who didnt look at her child through rose colored glasses he might not have turned out to be a criminal.

it all starts at home and obviously not everyone should be allowed to have children.
 
Bias?

Yea. Look at every court were they bring in the Mother to testify on how good little Jonny is! Blah. Hitlers Mother would've said they have him all wrong too.

Reporters want one thing only! Thats veiwers. They could care if its the truth or not. Hell, I have more respect for prostutes than I do Reporters.
 
Was this person a patron of the night club?

Isn't Virginia law such that you can't have a gun in places where alcohol is served?
 
Isn't Virginia law such that you can't have a gun in places where alcohol is serve
Open carry only. Concealed-carry permits don't allow you to carry concealed in any place that has an ABC On-premises licence. The story isn't really clear as to who was inside and who was outside and when. But the shooter would have been legalif he had a permit and was carrying openly inside.

TC
TFL Survivor
 
Gentleman's Club

In California a "Gentleman's Club" is one of those places where ladies take all off their clothes for the entertainment of ... whoever would want to sit and watch such an event with a roll of dollar bills. Anyway, they don't serve alcohol in these clubs, although they do serve alcohol in the strip joints where the ladies don't remove ALL of their clothes. I don't know if it is the same in Virginia.

How would i know this? from my younger days when i used to drink a lot for fun. :rolleyes:
 
"Call The Crimeline at 1-888-LOCK-U-UP if you can help police crack this case."

UMMM just how much "crack" does this case require? Or did they put that in just for a chance to get a bad pun in print?

Bart Noir
Either you gets it or you don't.
 
You know, someone's going to post that he must not have used enough caliber...maybe it was a mouse gun....

Well, isn't it clear he didn't use enough gun?

Must have been one of them 9mm glocks. There no good. No ones ever been killed by one or anything. If he was a real man, he would have been carrying a 1911 and shot the perp 3x COM and even if he missed completely would have killed the goblin and blown his arms and hands, and head, and feet clean off.

:neener:
 
:cuss: :banghead:
Would SOMEBODY please go back to the original story and read it!

The shooter's momma is the one who says her boy was innocent. The perp has not yet been named, and the story tells you why.

BTW, this is a heck of a way to introduce myself, but I really get :fire: steamed when folks go off on a rant without checking the facts about the need to rant.

And, as somebody who has been in one or more gunfights too many, I'm impressed that he got the perp at all. I'm also impressed that folks were not aware that you can carry in a bar in Virginia - just as long as you carry openly.

I'm in the only city with a whole sreeet full of second place trophies, and a Yankee to boot.

Stay safe, all.

skidmark
 
Wait a minute. I thought you said the victim shot the robber? Now it looks to me that it was the robber that was the victim.

After all we all know that anyone who is on the recieving end of 'gun violence' is a victim! :banghead:
 
Skid, it sounds like we have a confusion of terms.

Let's clarify. We have:

* 22-year old Tony Kensler: felon, crackhead, guy with 3 holes in his self. By anyone's definition, the "perp".
* Mrs. Kensler, the crackhead's mommy.
* The "Intended Victim" (let's call him "IV"). Had a permit for a concealed weapon, and got off the shots, hitting Kensler in the arm, leg and chest.

Sorry -- I think everyone read the story right but you. And your rant was the rantiest rant so far. :D
 
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Welcome to the Forum

Skidmark,

Welcome to THR, this is not an easy board to be wrong on. The guys here will pick up every mistake and beat you to death with it, fully expecting you to return the favor in the future.

The good part is you get to start fresh in the next thread.


Respectfully,

jdkelly
 
You base this on how many personal shooting incidents?

AMEN :cuss:

I will never ever cease to be amazed by the armchair commandos that second guess or critique a guy's performance when the SHTF.

I been there. It ain't pretty.

But you know what...he done fine! He isn't the one recovering from "wounds received".
 
Frankly, the say that sentence is worded, I couldn't tell who's mom he was saying had the innocent angel of a son.
 
The "mom" sentence is ambiguous.

It is an auto-assumption in this day and age to assume the perp's mom said "my boy done nothing' wrong.

Re-reading now.

Kensler, the shot perp, is the one who's mum is on record as saying her crack-snorting crim of a kid did nothing wrong. Bully for her.
 
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