I used to buy ammo at Wal-Mart, when gunshow stockpiles would run out. No good gunshops in my area. (The one gunshop had worse customer service than Wal-Mart, by far. Which says a LOT.) Now that a Sportsman's Warehouse has opened, I do absolutely no shopping at Wal-Mart.
Wal-Mart out of control
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Missourigunner
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Go Figure! I live about 10 Mile from Jefferson City, MO, they have a Super Wal-Mart, 20 Miles from Jefferson City, is Fulton, MO, they have a Super Wal-Mart, Mexico, MO about 22 Miles from Fulton has a Super Wal-Mart, Columbia Mo, 30+ Miles from Jefferson City, has 2 Super Wal-marts, Moberly, MO near Columbia has a Super Wal-MartSo within a say 50 mile radius, we have 6 Super Wal-Marts. There are no Mom and Pops, Grocery stores except big box stores, No Independent Gas stations, You have no choice except to shop at Walrus World. 
I am 61 Years old and I have been carded for Ammo on a number of occassions and I have been asked on one occassion regarding the Shotgun shells that I was purchasing, the Clerk asked me "Sir are those for a handgun." When I buy ammo at my local gun shop, I am not carded and the ammo is decently priced so I don't buy ammo from Wal-Mart.
I am 61 Years old and I have been carded for Ammo on a number of occassions and I have been asked on one occassion regarding the Shotgun shells that I was purchasing, the Clerk asked me "Sir are those for a handgun." When I buy ammo at my local gun shop, I am not carded and the ammo is decently priced so I don't buy ammo from Wal-Mart.RoyG,
Many of us are not willing to sell our country or ourselves out for the "Best and cheapest price" as you seem to be.
WalMart has been the most instrumental retail outlet in the U.S., in destroying our manufacturing base, by importing cheap chinese products, made with cheap chinese labor.
Worship the dollar if you will RoyG. It will come home to haunt you.
comacho
Many of us are not willing to sell our country or ourselves out for the "Best and cheapest price" as you seem to be.
WalMart has been the most instrumental retail outlet in the U.S., in destroying our manufacturing base, by importing cheap chinese products, made with cheap chinese labor.
Worship the dollar if you will RoyG. It will come home to haunt you.
comacho
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Was just there today
I shop WW occasionally and do by ammo, partly because I get to screw with them some. When buying metallic ammo you always get the stupid question is if for a handgun or rifle. I always reply it's for shotgun. They get a puzzled look, stare at the register then ask again and I reply it's for shotgun, they get that blank stare again and then just pick something.
The other stupid part is you have to pay for ammo immediately or be escorted to a register where you are going to check out, you can't ride it around in your cart while finishing shopping. So in order to defeat the stupid checkout thing, I go directly to sporting goods first, buy ammo with cash then ride it around the cart the entire rest of the shopping trip, then when I check out I write check for extra cash to cover paying cash for the ammo and they don't any info from my check and related purchasing of ammo.
I shop WW occasionally and do by ammo, partly because I get to screw with them some. When buying metallic ammo you always get the stupid question is if for a handgun or rifle. I always reply it's for shotgun. They get a puzzled look, stare at the register then ask again and I reply it's for shotgun, they get that blank stare again and then just pick something.
The other stupid part is you have to pay for ammo immediately or be escorted to a register where you are going to check out, you can't ride it around in your cart while finishing shopping. So in order to defeat the stupid checkout thing, I go directly to sporting goods first, buy ammo with cash then ride it around the cart the entire rest of the shopping trip, then when I check out I write check for extra cash to cover paying cash for the ammo and they don't any info from my check and related purchasing of ammo.
Stevie-Ray
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True story. I went into my local Wally world to buy some ammo. Not even a particularly good price. Anyways, nobody would wait on me. Even after paging 3 times and 20 minutes, nothing. PO'd plenty now, I finally caught the attention of some guy that had to get the key from somebody else. He explained to me that most employees with the key don't want to touch anything to do with guns. I explained to him that, "They damned well better look for a job in a place that doesn't sell guns, then!" He agreed.
Thats true, but at Walmart we are talking about the regular everyday price. yes, if i shop around I can probably find nice brass cased, boxer primed .38spec for $7.50 a box* but at Walmart I can get that price when im driving to the range on a whim any day of the week.
*I actually probably CANT find this particular ammo any cheaper without resorting to reloads, but you get the point.
RoyG
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comacho,
For the most part we are taking ammo here. WWB. Last time I checked it's ALL made in the US. How come no one slams Wolf ammo? NOT made in the US and also not sold at WM. Also the employees working at the sporting goods counter are all American. Locals also. That means they are getting paid and spending their checks here locally also.
Also all the guns that WM sales are all made in the same factory as all the guns you buy anywhere else. So that means the Marlin I buy there was built by Americans in a American factory, paid in American dollars.
For the most part we are taking ammo here. WWB. Last time I checked it's ALL made in the US. How come no one slams Wolf ammo? NOT made in the US and also not sold at WM. Also the employees working at the sporting goods counter are all American. Locals also. That means they are getting paid and spending their checks here locally also.
Also all the guns that WM sales are all made in the same factory as all the guns you buy anywhere else. So that means the Marlin I buy there was built by Americans in a American factory, paid in American dollars.
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.most of the walmarts I go to let me pick up the ammo, put it in my cart ,then finsish shopping. I then pay for the ammo with the rest of my stuff at the front checkout.
whether or not you can do that is up to local store managers and local laws. Corporate walmart has nopolicy on this.
I was looking for a Winchester 94 Ranger at the beginning of the year; I went to the local gun shops to compare prices. Walmart's price was $264. The first gun shop carries Marlin's the second gun shop said they would be happy to order it for me and the price would be a little over $500. I'm all for giving the local guy my business, but come on pay twice as much for a crappy base model, no frills, hardwood stocked lever action?
I'll buy a box or 2 of ammo at Walmart, their prices are ok. I mail order my ammo most of the time.
One range/gun shop I shoot at has decent ammo prices and I'll buy from them if I want to shoot after my personal ammo runs out. But at the other range, I leave when I run out... pay $13 for a box of crappy .38 spl wadcutter reloads? right.
...I have purchased pistols from both stores and will continue to do so.
I'll buy a box or 2 of ammo at Walmart, their prices are ok. I mail order my ammo most of the time.
One range/gun shop I shoot at has decent ammo prices and I'll buy from them if I want to shoot after my personal ammo runs out. But at the other range, I leave when I run out... pay $13 for a box of crappy .38 spl wadcutter reloads? right.
...I have purchased pistols from both stores and will continue to do so.TallPine
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Never had an issue with buying 22 bulk ammo at Mall-wart ... it's right out on the shelf and just pickup up several boxes and throw it in the cart and pay for it up front.
I wonder how many boxes of 550 I could buy at one time without raising eyebrows ...?
I wonder how many boxes of 550 I could buy at one time without raising eyebrows ...?
MountainPeak
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I keep seeing these posts about the short comings of Walmart. I shop at several different ones. I have never had a problem with them.
When I used to live in MA I was in a gun store with a friend and I tried to purchase a box of 9mm. At the time I didn't have a license to carry. They refused to sell me the ammo on the basis that 9mm is a pistol caliber and if I didn't have a permit to carry I shouldn't have a pistol. I pointed out that;
A)Marlin made a semi-auto carbine in 9mm and .45acp, Rossi made a saddle ring carine in .357.
B)You can own a pistol in MA, if you moved into state with it from another state or it was handed down to you due to death and had never left the property where it was stored.
It was a waste of breath. I walked out of there and never went back.
A)Marlin made a semi-auto carbine in 9mm and .45acp, Rossi made a saddle ring carine in .357.
B)You can own a pistol in MA, if you moved into state with it from another state or it was handed down to you due to death and had never left the property where it was stored.
It was a waste of breath. I walked out of there and never went back.
I do not go to WallyWorld anymore for all the above reasons. The one deciding moment was one Saturday evening, picked up some groceries, then remembered I needed some Whitebox 45's for target practice with friends on Sunday. Nobody at the sporting goods counter, so I asked a lady in the paint section to call for the sporting goods person. She says "what do you want, maybe I can get it". When I replied, she abruptly asked me "what are you gonna do...kill someone?" I pulled my cart to the side and walked out. I sent the manager a letter telling him that I will not shop at a store where I am treated rudely, just because I enjoy the shooting sports.
Old Dog
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Please, please, stop the Wal-Mart threads ...
Apparently, we have a problem in the NorthWest that I'll have to speak to the national corporate headquarters about... sadly, many of our Wal-Marts up here have people working in sporting goods who -- are you ready for this? -- actually own guns (and know a little about 'em), hunt and fish. Never got stupid questions when buying ammo at Wal-Mart, always get friendly service and have even (gasp) bought a firearm at a Wal-Mart.
Seriously, people who do all the talking about buying only American need to study up on the current state of the global economy. Anyway, as far as taking business away from the small businessman, I disagree. There will always be a place in this country's economy for the savvy small businessman (or woman). There is always a strategy out there to use to compete against the big-box stores. And the big-box stores aren't going away any time soon. Don't want any Wal-Marts in your county? Get involved in local politics. Don't like Wal-Mart? Don't shop there.
All these silly Wal-Mart threads are really, really getting tiresome, and nothing new is getting said.
Apparently, we have a problem in the NorthWest that I'll have to speak to the national corporate headquarters about... sadly, many of our Wal-Marts up here have people working in sporting goods who -- are you ready for this? -- actually own guns (and know a little about 'em), hunt and fish. Never got stupid questions when buying ammo at Wal-Mart, always get friendly service and have even (gasp) bought a firearm at a Wal-Mart.
Seriously, people who do all the talking about buying only American need to study up on the current state of the global economy. Anyway, as far as taking business away from the small businessman, I disagree. There will always be a place in this country's economy for the savvy small businessman (or woman). There is always a strategy out there to use to compete against the big-box stores. And the big-box stores aren't going away any time soon. Don't want any Wal-Marts in your county? Get involved in local politics. Don't like Wal-Mart? Don't shop there.
All these silly Wal-Mart threads are really, really getting tiresome, and nothing new is getting said.
Harry Paget Flashman
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My dealings with the people at out local Wal-Mart Superstore have been positive. In the past 10 years I bought a Ruger Mini-14 & 10/22, a Henry lever .22, a Savage bolt .22 and two 20ga shotguns from three different clerks. They were all hunters and knew guns. Most importantly, they all made the appropriate "Oo-o-o's" and "Ahh-h-h's" on my purchases. Now, that has got to count for something.
When I bought the shotguns I gun several boxes of 12ga off the shelf to take home and use with my new shotguns. The clerk asked in a very friendly manner if I also wanted to buy some 20ga too. Nice save on his part.
Only 'problem' I've had is with the younger clerks who don't know their product. Instead of asking for a box of .357 or .45 I point to what I want and guide them to it..."No. Up one shelf...no..left...no...the red and white box... just left...yes, that one...thank you." Win-win.
When I bought the shotguns I gun several boxes of 12ga off the shelf to take home and use with my new shotguns. The clerk asked in a very friendly manner if I also wanted to buy some 20ga too. Nice save on his part.
Only 'problem' I've had is with the younger clerks who don't know their product. Instead of asking for a box of .357 or .45 I point to what I want and guide them to it..."No. Up one shelf...no..left...no...the red and white box... just left...yes, that one...thank you." Win-win.
38SnubFan
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I can't say that I've really had ANY bad dealings with Wal-Mart regarding purchases of ammo and cleaning supplies for my guns. Only once, when purchasing ammo, was I asked to produce my Driver's License. Didn't bother me at all, I just showed it to her, she entered my age, and I was on my way.
I'm suprised to see that so many people have either had these bad experiences with WM (e.g. being walked to the door directly after purchasing ammo) or take such offense to being asked to produce credentials to secure a purchase (Driver's License, FOID, etc.)
Many of these people aren't always familiar with what's needed and what's not needed to complete these transactions. They're sales associates and cashiers; not legal experts.
Of course, Wal-Mart isn't always the cheapest around here for ammo. I usually hit Gander Mountain when I'm over that way, both based on better price and selection.
I also read and replied to a thread on here recently bashing Dick's Sporting Goods. Never had any problems there either. The sales assoicates were professional, knowledgeable, and courteous there; as well, they had a sale on Remington UMC for my .45 at $9.99/50, which around here is a pretty good deal.
YMMW.
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I'm suprised to see that so many people have either had these bad experiences with WM (e.g. being walked to the door directly after purchasing ammo) or take such offense to being asked to produce credentials to secure a purchase (Driver's License, FOID, etc.)
Many of these people aren't always familiar with what's needed and what's not needed to complete these transactions. They're sales associates and cashiers; not legal experts.
Of course, Wal-Mart isn't always the cheapest around here for ammo. I usually hit Gander Mountain when I'm over that way, both based on better price and selection.
I also read and replied to a thread on here recently bashing Dick's Sporting Goods. Never had any problems there either. The sales assoicates were professional, knowledgeable, and courteous there; as well, they had a sale on Remington UMC for my .45 at $9.99/50, which around here is a pretty good deal.
YMMW.
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No_Brakes23
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Too bad I can't get Winny WhiteBox at the "local gunstore" So what now? I hate wallyworld too, I think it is a total nexus of stupidity. I didn't shop at one for a long time because of their biased music policy, (Only censored CDs, but movies can have all the cussing they want...) But sometimes they have the better deal. In this case, I can't get WWB at the local gun store or the "big chain" gun store, only at WalMart.
Eventually I will just buy it online, but for now, mom & pop don't get my dollar if they want to stock crap ammo.
Oh I love it when someone in a Dodge/Chrylser talks about buying American. The "Buy American" people look real stupid driving their German owned, made in Canada or Mexico, "American" cars. My "Japanese" Mazda was made in Flat Rock Michigan, and it has a Ford engine in it. And Ford essentially owns Mazda. Truly American cars are a rarity these days, and most of them suck.
Haven't been ID'd for ammo or gun stuff (never bought a gun from Wally World) but I have been ID'd for carb cleaner.
But.. on Saturday one of my people (19 years old) stopped into Wally World to pickup some .45ACP ammo. The clerk asked him what it was for to which the kid replied "Marlin Camp Carbine".
The clerk said "rifles only come in .45 Colt" and refused to sell the ammo to him.
But.. on Saturday one of my people (19 years old) stopped into Wally World to pickup some .45ACP ammo. The clerk asked him what it was for to which the kid replied "Marlin Camp Carbine".
The clerk said "rifles only come in .45 Colt" and refused to sell the ammo to him.
Bah - can't even get through this whole thread....
I love the "support yer local blah blah"
walmart IS your local blah blah...along w/ target... and kmart and albertsons and best buy and whatever OTHER chain you wanna talk about... i don't hear anyone griping about mickey D's and saying how thier crappy fat laden meat is taking over the world and WE ARE LETTING IT HAPPEN OMG! (heh - btw... all those employee's that are getting so mistreated can quit... i've known those who worked for wally world AND those that quit... the job is soemthing YOU DON"T KNOW UNLESS YOU )(*&(^(*&^()* WORKED THERE... )
Easy to say from yer comfy XXXX dollars you make that might require a skill... and i'm guessing don't have to budget to heavily since wally world is pretty much as cheap as you can get it... (not always... but pretty dang close) vs. having the opportunity to be able to be aristocratic about where you spend your money and get "the bits you want" vs. the bits you need. Must be nice to have more cash to be able to be selective about your needs.
rofl
Roy's post actually made a point - sell something wally world DOESN"T... duh... business sense? maybe? hmmmm? bleh... who would think to think OUTSIDE the "cheap as you can get" box.... Mom and Pop spots are NOT based on price ... they are based on personality and not on product... there are places like that ... that i will go to so long as they are open... for things other than my everyday needs. Mom and Pop expected thier kids to move out...
J/Tharg!
I love the "support yer local blah blah"
walmart IS your local blah blah...along w/ target... and kmart and albertsons and best buy and whatever OTHER chain you wanna talk about... i don't hear anyone griping about mickey D's and saying how thier crappy fat laden meat is taking over the world and WE ARE LETTING IT HAPPEN OMG! (heh - btw... all those employee's that are getting so mistreated can quit... i've known those who worked for wally world AND those that quit... the job is soemthing YOU DON"T KNOW UNLESS YOU )(*&(^(*&^()* WORKED THERE... )
Easy to say from yer comfy XXXX dollars you make that might require a skill... and i'm guessing don't have to budget to heavily since wally world is pretty much as cheap as you can get it... (not always... but pretty dang close) vs. having the opportunity to be able to be aristocratic about where you spend your money and get "the bits you want" vs. the bits you need. Must be nice to have more cash to be able to be selective about your needs.
rofl
Roy's post actually made a point - sell something wally world DOESN"T... duh... business sense? maybe? hmmmm? bleh... who would think to think OUTSIDE the "cheap as you can get" box.... Mom and Pop spots are NOT based on price ... they are based on personality and not on product... there are places like that ... that i will go to so long as they are open... for things other than my everyday needs. Mom and Pop expected thier kids to move out...
J/Tharg!
By the way, buying items online is the single worst thing you can do for your local economy. Not only are you providing money to an operation that requires less than half the manpower to run, you are helping to deprive your locality of a fortune in business and property taxes, not to mention any state income tax that you arent paying. Furthermore out of state companies arent providing ANY jobs in your area at all. The purchase of bulk quantities of ammo online hurts your local shop a LOT more than Walmart does.
I think the bottom line for local economy is customer service. It was mentioned that Walmart is part of the local economy. I have noticed a steady decline in my town in customer service as a function of doing business. Yes, my experience has recently been negative with Walmart, but it has recently also been negative with other businesses. Whether this thread is offensive to some or not, my buying strategies depend not only on price, but on customer service, and I read these kinds of threads to learn about trends and patterns that may affect my decision to buy. I will buy online if I'm treated respectfully, the price is right and the company stands behind its products. And I've been doing more of that lately.
No_Brakes23
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So, since the local stores don't carry my ammo, we are back to the point that I have to buy ammo I don't want or "hurt the local economy?" What if I reload? That must be really selfish, cause then no one gets that money (other than the initial investment.)
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