Walker vs Dragoon

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  1. Ugly Sauce

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    Not to mention what you will feel when it chain-fires.
     
  2. whughett

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    I load on the gun using a rest. So it’s charge six, place wad on six, seat ball on six, rotate the cylinder while using index finger to remove any powder sitting on chamber mouths. place six caps. Shoot repeat.

    Loading the Walker for a buddy to shoot for the first time, distracted by small talk ,I missed seating a ball in one chamber. 60 grain load and on the first shot the unballed chamber fired also. From my point of view it was spectacular, he never noticed.

    I didn’t realize what had happened until I saw the ball still lying on the bench next to my loading rest.
     
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  3. 45 Dragoon

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    He was too scared to notice!! Lol!!

    Mike
     
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  4. robhof

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    I've seen a few branded from using a rifle grip on those revolving rifles. Not good!
     
  5. PWC

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    Teaching moment....for all who teach youngsters to shoot revolvers...make sure you teach them not to stand next to the gun when it's fired. Best illustrated by taking a sheet of typing paper draped over the revolver cyclinder and pulled down tight with the off hand. I used a .38; it makes a lasting impression on why not to stand next to a revolver.
     
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  7. Sim Carstairs

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    I’m the original owner of an ASM 3rd Dragoon. I’ve used it mainly for hunting for the past 32 or 33 years. Killed plenty of deer with it. Besides nipples, I’ve only replaced two parts that I can recall. It’s plenty accurate but I’ve pretty much lately put it on the shelf after acquiring a Uberti Walker that I built from a kit. Just a little more accurate and a little more powerful. I target practice with 40 grains of 3F and hunt with 50 grains. There’s no difference in accuracy. I usually practice at 45 yards but I’ve placed four rounds into the head of a human silhouette target at 100 yards with two very slight misses. The Dragoon is not as heavy but my personal preference based on years of use is the Walker.
     
  8. Ugly Sauce

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    Wow...does that brass thingie slide forward on the barrel? It must. Is that the ASM? I can see why the Walker is your weapon of choice. Do you use ball or slug?
     
  9. Sim Carstairs

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    The two pics are of my Walker. The brass loading lever catch I made. It’s lined with felt. I use a .454 round ball that I cast. It cuts an very, very fine circle of lead when loading. A .457 cuts a very visible circle but is too difficult to load. I don’t use Picket bullets and never really seen the need.
     
  10. Ugly Sauce

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    Okay, looked like two different revolvers.
     
  11. sspierce8

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    I have a newer uberti Walker, and the loading lever has never dropped. I shoot 50 grains. I’ve heard people say that some are better than others for the lever dropping. I may have gotten lucky.
     
  12. BLACKHAWKNJ

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    Again, you buy for the history.
    Colt Paterson-1st Generation
    Colt Walker- 2nd Generation
    Colt Dragoon- 3rd Generation
     
  13. Sim Carstairs

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    I really can’t recall a single incident while target practicing that the loading lever on my Uberti Walker came down while using 40 or 50 grains. I only use the brass loading lever clip while hunting just to eliminate the possibility. This past summer, I had to replace the tiny spring on the loading lever catch of my 3rd Dragoon. After 30+ years of shooting, it finally wore out and started to sporadically drop while shooting.
     
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  14. CraigC
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    The Walker is awesome, in theory anyway. In practice, I much prefer the 3rd Model Dragoon.

    IMG_2551b.jpg
     
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  15. Sim Carstairs

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    With your 3rd Model Dragoon set up to take metallic cartridges, there really is no comparing it to the Walker or any other cap and ball revolver.

    Nice job on that front site! Grips are awesome, too!
     
  16. CraigC
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    All the advantages still apply. No loading lever issues. Half pound lighter, 1.5" shorter barrel.
     
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  17. Ugly Sauce

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    I think I like the Walker more than I did before, but if I break down and decide to get ONE MORE revolver, (that '62 was going to be my last, I told myself) it's going to be the Dragoon. And it's shipping directly to one of them there revolver guru's to get worked over, then they can send it to me. No more "out of the box" cap and ball revolvers for me.

    Dang, until this thread, I was NOT going to start lusting after another revolver.
     
  18. PowderMark

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    CraigC, who did those awesome one piece elk grips?
     
  19. Old Shatterhand

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    Same here, I have a Uberti Walker . I shoot 40-50 gr ( depends on my mood) and the lever has not dropped or even loosen a bit .
    Maybe they figured it out how to secure the lever.
    When I got my Walker I was prepared for the lever drop problem but luckily it never happened.
     
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  20. Jackrabbit1957

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    A lot of the problem with the lever dropping is the shape of the spring end that holds lever in place, if it's shaped into almost a hook the lever stands a better chance of not dropping. The trick is to make it fit without making it too hard to move the lever when you're ready to load.
     
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  21. CraigC
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    Sorry for the late response, didn't see this before. Sack Peterson did the grips.
     
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