We Need to Inform Our Hunting Buddies!

[funfaler]

found this site from the Brady Campaign, admitting that they want to ban "hunting rifles". This is important for us to show to our "hunting only" friends, that think the gun grabbers will stop when they get the "assault weapons". If you know someone who says that they don't want to take hunting rifles, you had better show them this statement from the gun grabbers!

Brady Bunch wanting to ban the 30.30 http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=88508969&MyToken=3a97f861-5c96-4c0d-8970-48ef67c73e7cML

Some excerpts, go and read it for yourself:

"Another rifle caliber, the 30.30 caliber, was responsible for penetrating three officers' armor and killing them in 1993, 1996, and 2002. This ammunition is also capable of puncturing light-armored vehicles, ballistic or armored glass, armored limousines, even a 600-pound safe with 600 pounds of safe armor plating.....

..It is outrageous and unconscionable that such ammunition continues to be sold in the United States of America.."

Imagine the 30.30 being able to penetrate armored vehicles

Sniper Rifles can be equipped with precision optics above even what the Military uses, allowing a sniper to deliver rounds within millimeters of accuracy - enabling them to engage targets at distances of well over one hundred meters. Is there a pressing need to be able to kill with accuracy at that distance? It is too far to justify as self defense. It is too far for hunting. It is only useful for those who wish to murder from afar.

Do you think the Hunters could ever imagine a shot out to 100 yards?

We should also give commendations to France because many years ago they designated any firearm capable of shooting military ammunition as a military arm, illegal to posess without a special permit and unlawful to use for hunting. The 223, 308, 7mm mauser, 30-06, and 6.5x55 have no place in the hunting fields of France. Firearms shooting these calibers are military weapons only designed for killing PEOPLE and should be kept out of the hands of the general population. Because they have no hunting purpose, there is no reason for civilians to own them.

Can you imagine your Hunting buddies saying that they don't see a need for these calibers? That these are "sniper" calibers, not useful for hunting?

If we, as gun owners, don't start banning together, we will be able to enjoy the "ban" by ourselves.

 

[Eleven Mike]

Sniper Rifles can be equipped with precision optics above even what the Military uses, allowing a sniper to deliver rounds within millimeters of accuracy - enabling them to engage targets at distances of well over one hundred meters. Is there a pressing need to be able to kill with accuracy at that distance? It is too far to justify as self defense. It is too far for hunting.

Sniper rifles can do that? I've heard of people hitting targets over 100 meters, but I didn't believe it. I guess you can even learn from the Brady Bunch sometimes.

For you, hso

 

[DogBonz]

logical this is not

even a 600-pound safe with 600 pounds of safe armor plating.....

SO... is it a 1200Lb safe or do all of the things like hinges, dials, etc not weigh any thing? And what morons... safes are not made with armor plating.

I truly hope that they do try banning the 30-30. Because I believe that a move that stupid will do one of two things, or hopefully both. Maybe people outside of the "us" will finally see how ridiculous these people are. Or, maybe it will motivate stupid hunters (ala Jimbo) into action to defend the 2A as a whole now that their little world is being attacked.

This would be the dumbest move the brady bunch could ever make.

 

[sacp81170a]

Large caliber Sniper Rifles such as the .50 Browning Machine Gun can derail freight cars,

I don't quite know what to say to this...

I'm just, amazed... amused... I can't comprehend ignorance of this magnitude.

 

[gbell]

"and military slings should be imposed"

Can these people get any more stupid?

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

They are still spewing the debunked drivel about .50BMG rounds?

OMG a rifle caliber can penetrate level IIIA body armor!!! We must alert the media that rifles can penetrate soft body armor rated for handgun calibers! I wonder how many officers have died in car crashes in the same time period.

Do you think the Hunters could ever imagine a shot out to 100 yards?

My closest shot at a deer was 70 yards. Most are several hundred yards. Not all of us hunt in dense forests.
Maybe we should all start hunting with nerf guns. Will that satisfy the Brady group? After they are done with us they can start demandng the NFL play touch football and police officers try a warm embrace instead of a firm voice when confronting violent suspects.

 

[Hemicuda]

That's a good deal...

Ban my 7MM Mauser, because it is a military caliber, but let me keep the MUCH more powerful 7MM Remington Magnum, 'cause it is a civilian caliber...

Ban my 30-06 Springfield, because it is a military caliber, but let me keep my MUCH more powerful .300 Holland & Holland Magnum, 'cause it's a civilian caliber...

PURE flippin' genuis, those Brady people, dontcha think?

 

[JWarren]

I hope sportsmen realize now that NO FIREARM is safe from the antis.

John

 

[MrDig]

100 meter = 109.361 yards

Less than the length of a football feild by 10 yards, and people have no reason what so ever to shoot at these distances. Why on earth would anybody NEED to shoot at those distances. This is for Only highly trained Military Personel, SWAT or Assasins like Oswald.

I must be a highly trained sniper then.

 

[K3]

Hehe. 100 yards. That's a LONG way out there. I guess a guy who can/has hit a mule deer at 520 yards is Carlos Hathcock reborn. Call me Gunny then...

 

[musher]

I've no trouble some folks believe such things as stated in the blog.

That being said, I don't know why you attribute the remarks to the Brady Campaign (the organization).

The link looks like a myspace site for an individual to me.

 

[oregonhunter]

I really do think this guy and obama are problems because they both want to ban centerfire rifles.( I am sure that pistols account for more US deaths). We should spread this throughout the gun and hunting community's and put a stop to these ignorant anti-gunners.

 

[Axman]

Large caliber Sniper Rifles such as the .50 Browning Machine Gun can derail freight cars

Just maybe, maybe, if you left the weapon itself laying on the track! Hmm...or they may have done a test using a Lionel train set.

This ammunition is also capable of puncturing light-armored vehicles

Like a Chevy Metro is really armored!


What they don't realize is the 2A isn't just about hunting.

Before the advent of firearms, militaries used archers with longbows. We should ban bows because they are military weapons. We can leave the much more capable compound bow alone since it is designed for civies (aside from the deadlier camouflage sniper compounds). Then we have to look at the arrowheads. Broadheads are razor sharp and can penetrate police body armor much easier than their targethead counterparts. To be on the safe side, we are going to have to ban pointy headed arrows and just allow only those arrows with soft rubber suction cups on them. And any bow with a camouflage finish (longbow, recurve or comound) is a deadly, armor piercing, heat seeking, assault sniper bow. These sniper bows are capable of downing a Boeing 767 at 35,000 ft.

 

[PirateJoe]

If I didn't know any better I'd say it was just a good spoof. :banghead:

 

[imprezagm4]

Oh my. Check out the website linked there: http://www.50caliberterror.com/

The dramatic intro showing what is undoubtably a terrorist armed with a .50 sniper rifle getting his crosshairs alligned on a commercial plane at takeoff haha

The .50 Caliber Sniper Rifle puts us all at risk whenever we fly an airplane.

Something must be done! For the children!

 

[General Geoff]

What the hell is wrong with these people?

If someone wanted to take out an airliner, they'd use an RPG. Much cheaper, and more effective. Who in their right (or wrong) mind would take pot shots with a bolt action or even semi auto .50BMG gun?

The AAA of WWII era routinely consisted of FOUR M2 heavy machine guns, linked in tandem, and they were only marginally effective against incoming fighter planes. Yes, and these sniper rifles (which might get one or two shots off before the aircraft is out of range anyway) are DEADLY effective against behemoth airliners, many times larger than WWII bombers which were barely perturbed by .50cal AAA.

Sarcasm detector... that must be a REAL useful machine! (machine blows up)

 

[PistolPackin'Papa]

LOOK AT ENGLAND. YES, BOWS WILL BE NEXT. DON'T YA JUST LOVE THE BRADY BUNCH?

 

[Eleven Mike]

Weren't the first guns intended for military use? If so, aren't all guns evil military people-killing weapons that civilians should not be allowed to look at?

 

[PotatoJudge]

Should our elected officials live under the threat of reprisal on their lives from disgruntled constituents?

That pretty well defines the second ammendment.

 

[Axman]

DON'T YA JUST LOVE THE BRADY BUNCH?

No, I hate them, it's always Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!!!

 

[shield20]

My response (see if it makes it)


Good thing we are not in France then...since it is the US Constitution that does indeed protect the rights you are so eager to see disabled. That and common sense.

I am curious...is it you that comes up with this stuff? Just whose logic was it that determined the standing army and the police should be better armed then the people they work for, you remember 'the people' right? - the very ones they are hired to serve and protect? And whose logic was it that decided the terrible socially deviate actions of less then .0001% of the population who actually use ANY rifle to commit homicide each year should determine it is best to encroach on what is (a) right for the other 294 million of us?

And most of all, just who came up with the "sensible" idea that in order to combat violent criminals who use firearms to impose their will on others, unarming the other 99.88% of us in ANY way shape or form is the proper course to take?

Appreciate your allowing blog entires that are in conflict with yours. But I have to point this out - now you are calling for banning "military slings"? Are you kidding me??? And seems you are still not getting that whole "2nd amendment isn't about hunting and sports" thing...Bill of Rights? Rights of the people? Life, liberty, pursuit of happiness and property? Unalienable? Defence of himself and the State? Any of this ring a bell?

 

[Diesel man]

Brady bunch blog head

Brady campaign dummy wrote this in his blog at myspace
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.comment&friendID=88508969&blogID=231968340&ticket=MHMGCisGAQQBgjdYA7CgZTBjBgorBgEEAYI3WAMBoFUwUwIDAgABAgJmAwICAMAECGcu2CrZm5rHBBBwfoJsqUqqLw5%2B2nHKzzrBBCixePTXWBJEot2UZescekpY8xYhy%2BMle48IdcX%2BvybNtv6iWuYdj8Vh&BlogCategoryID=0&Mytoken=587E9B03-E1A0-47C5-B385642502BBB1D52909465
Monday, February 19, 2007 - 2:09 AM
"The tragic proliferation of Sniper Rifles
I would like to take a moment to comment on the proliferation of Sniper Rifles.
Sniper Rifles are typically equipped with a high-powered scope, and every single one of them can blow through the body armor cops wear. They can even penetrate multiple police cars. Does the Second Amendment protect cop-killer Sniper Rifles? The NRA certainly thinks so, along with the powerful gun lobby that wants your children and your law enforcement officers to be at risk from these weapons of mass destruction. Some of these Sniper Rifles can even penetrate ballistic or armored glass, lightly armored vehicles, and armored limousines. Senator Ted Kennedy attempted to solve this with an important bill that would have banned armor piercing ammunition and protected lawful firearm commerce:

"Another rifle caliber, the 30.30 caliber, was responsible for penetrating three officers' armor and killing them in 1993, 1996, and 2002. This ammunition is also capable of puncturing light-armored vehicles, ballistic or armored glass, armored limousines, even a 600-pound safe with 600 pounds of safe armor plating.....

..It is outrageous and unconscionable that such ammunition continues to be sold in the United States of America.."

Should our elected officials live under the threat of reprisal on their lives from disgruntled constituents? The Gun Lobby seems to think so. We disagree.

Sniper Rifles can be equipped with precision optics above even what the Military uses, allowing a sniper to deliver rounds within millimeters of accuracy - enabling them to engage targets at distances of well over one hundred meters. Is there a pressing need to be able to kill with accuracy at that distance? It is too far to justify as self defense. It is too far for hunting. It is only useful for those who wish to murder from afar.

Large caliber Sniper Rifles such as the .50 Browning Machine Gun can derail freight cars, shoot down aircraft and helicopters, damage vital ground equipment such as power substations, fuel tanks, and air traffic control, and cause complete chaos. For more information on why large caliber machine-gun rounds must be banned, visit http://www.50caliberterror.com. A shipment of large caliber machine-gun round sniper rifles made by Steyr turned up in Iran, and are being used on our own soldiers, as the .50 bullets easily defeat their body armor, their up-armored humvees, and even APCs.

Many forward thinking, progressive politicians such as Ted Kennedy, Chuck Schumer, Barbara Boxer, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama have voted against Center-Fire Rifle Ammunition of types for Sniper Rifles, but due to the pressure and massive financial resources of the gun industry, the necessary steps to protect our homes and lives have not been attained.

Sniper Rifles have been used by murderers and spree killers for years, with notable incidents such as the Beltway Snipers, the Clocktower Sniper, and more.

ANY rifle configured and equipped as a sniper rifle has no sporting purpose especially as a hunting rifle. They are too big and heavy to take to the field. Designed for distance shooting, they are useless for the ranges at which game animals are normally shot, and when used on sporting sized game at range they often just wound the animal, inhumanely forcing it to die slowly while the would-be hunter tracks it to finish it off. Most Sniper Rifles fire atypically large cartridges and ultra high velocity ammunition that can travel much greater distances that standard ammunition. The danger imposed from missed shots and ricochetes from these specialty rounds is unreasonable.

Most of these rifles carry multiple rounds, with either an automatic mechanism, or a quick toggle action to rapidly move another bullet into the breech, ready to fire into another victim. In most states, they are nearly unrestricted. Anyone over the age of 18 can buy one. If they can't pass a background check, they skirt the NCIS system by going to a gunshow, or finding a private sale in the newspaper. A murderer camped at a distance from a public gathering could quickly turn it into a massacre dwarfing anything we have seen before in the United States, if they had a Sniper Rifle. If they adopted hit and run tactics, entire portions of our country could be shut down.

Sniper Rifles shoot a high powered bullet that is almost always fatal. They are designed for one thing- delivering powerful overkill with deadly precision. You don't need the kind of power and accuracy that can kill a man at five hundred yards for hunting rabbits or defending your house.

We should also give commendations to France because many years ago they designated any firearm capable of shooting military ammunition as a military arm, illegal to posess without a special permit and unlawful to use for hunting. The 223, 308, 7mm mauser, 30-06, and 6.5x55 have no place in the hunting fields of France. Firearms shooting these calibers are military weapons only designed for killing PEOPLE and should be kept out of the hands of the general population. Because they have no hunting purpose, there is no reason for civilians to own them.

Every state in the USA has hunting equipment rules that limit the caliber of firearm used to take game. They also limit the types of rifles, length, magazine capacity, etc. States should amend these hunting regulations to restrict the use of "sniper" rifles, specialty "sniper" cartridges, and "sniper" ammunition. Limits on weight, barrel length, bipods and tripods, thumbhole stocks and pistol grips, night vision type scopes, scopes of excessive magnification, super magnum and high velocity ammunition, and military slings should be imposed. They have no place in the hunting fields of America and hunting usage should not be used as an argument for civilians to own such firearms and weapons. There are more than ample hunting rifles, cartridges, and rounds of ammunition to choose from without them.

Let us hope that in a safer, saner America, we will succeed in our efforts to restrict the deadly spread of long distance murder rifles."
This crap makes me angry luckly there are alot of 2nd amendment supporters in myspace.

 

[El Tejon]

Does anyone else remember when the Flabby Flannels told us that THEIR guns would never be targeted by the antis?

 

[pacodelahoya]

This whole country(or what's left of it) better wake up and smell the coffee.:banghead:

 

[Diesel man]

Next thing you know VPC will have a myspace account then million moron march and then you will see brady bunch commercials and so on and so forth.